I hate dealerships

[12,000 RPM]

My boss has an EX-L 2.0T and loves it. 30MPG on the commute I get 20MPG in the Kia in, and while he's not as psycho as I am he's not gentle either.

[shp4man]

Pickups can get into 6 figures.

I can't imagine why anybody would pay that much for a damn truck, but I guess they're out there. 

[Lebowski]

I considered the manual, but for sitting in traffic daily, I think the automatic makes more sense. 10-speed auto and 2.0t for me. Didn't even consider the 1.5 liter + CVT. That's a bridge too far for me I still have the S2000 for fun manual driving.

I'm leaning towards silver. I've had two gray cars for awhile, kind of sick of it. My protege5 was silver and I liked it ok. It's down to these two colors though.

There are two blues for Accords. For the Sport model only, there's a brighter blue, but I've decided against the sport trim. The seats are a weird combo of materials, the trim is this awful fake aluminum, and the stereo is unacceptable. The wheels are awful too. The blue is kind of purple to me too.

Think I'm going to go with the EX-L 2.0t w/o navi. Real leather, much better wood trim, much better stereo, memory seats, 17" wheels instead of 19", and a few other things. Only blue that's available in that trim is dark blue, but the interior is light gray. It's way too light and would look dirty quick I think.

Sitting in traffic in a manual has never bothered me, I've never really got the don't get a manual cause sit in traffic argument.  Get the manual.

[12,000 RPM]

Sitting in traffic in a manual has never bothered me, I've never really got the don't get a manual cause sit in traffic argument.  Get the manual.

To be fair you've never had a car that can drive itself either, and your commute is like 15 minutes on surface streets IIRC. Plus he still has the S2000

[Lebowski]

15 minutes?  Walking, maybe.


Yeah, I've never had a very long commute, still the sitting in traffic I have done (not all my driving is committing and the traffic here sucks) in a manual never really bothered me.  Maybe if I sat in traffic every morning and evening that would change, who knows.

[MrH]

It's not bad every day.  But some days...by Thursday or Friday, you're mentally tired, and then there's an accident and you're just sitting there in stop and go for an hour it gets really draining.

[veeman]

I've had three black cars: a Mazda Protege, an Enclave, and a Beetle.  I rarely washed them and never by hand.  When they were washed and the wheels shined they really popped. Especially the Enclave with the big chrome wheels (I know Mr H hates chrome) and the Beetle.  When they had dust, dirt, pollen, or salt grime on them which was most of the time, it didn't bother me though.  Whatever. 

[veeman]

The Accord 19" wheels look so good to me.  You don't like them?  Ride quality suffers I know and they're more likely to flat.  Did you test drive an Accord with the 19s?

[MrH]

Yeah, I test drove both.  I don't like asymmetrical wheels really.  Honda is big on them right now for some reason.  All of their wheels look like a turbine now.

For a daily driver, I'll take the 17" over the 19".  Much cheaper tires, and I don't really care about the looks one way or the other.

[CaminoRacer]

Just buy the first used Versa from CarMax that you see

[AutobahnSHO]

Just buy the first used Versa from CarMax that you see

LOL

Red red red!!!!   

[Lebowski]

CRV!

[MrH]

CRV!

How dare you call me poor!

[Lebowski]

How dare you call me poor!

What?  Only thing driven by more billionaires than the CRV is a Subaru.

[cawimmer430]

The mainstream American makes (Ford, Chevy, Dodge) are a bit more like the Japanese in that their option sheets are structured around trims/packages with relatively few standalone options.  You generally end up getting some stuff you don't want packaged with a "must have" feature. 

Pickup trucks still have a pretty sizeable number of individual options, but that's partly because they are so profitable that automakers can afford the cost hit of offering high levels of factory customization.

Got it. 

Amazing how profitable pickups are in the US. IIRC the Ford F-150 is still the best-selling car in the US.

[MrH]

Done deal.

Overall, worked out well.  The delta between the cars was under $1500.  Factor in the better financing I got through Honda vs what I was paying on the 4Runner, and the delta shrinks even more.  The 4Runner I owed for less than 3 years on it.  Took out a 36 month loan on the Accord for what was left after the equity factored in.

Basically stretched the loan a couple of months and lowered my monthly payment.  If you factor in something like 5% discount rate, the actual difference came out to $200 between the two.

Got a 3 year newer car, tons more tech (modern infotainment, leather seats, keyless start, etc), 55k fewer miles, and $100/month better gas mileage.  Just driving in traffic back to work was amazing.  Turn on active cruise control and lane keep assist, and it'll drive itself down the highway in bumper to bumper traffic on it's own.

[MexicoCityM3]

Congrats! Good trade.

[FoMoJo]

Done deal.

Overall, worked out well.  The delta between the cars was under $1500.  Factor in the better financing I got through Honda vs what I was paying on the 4Runner, and the delta shrinks even more.  The 4Runner I owed for less than 3 years on it.  Took out a 36 month loan on the Accord for what was left after the equity factored in.

Basically stretched the loan a couple of months and lowered my monthly payment.  If you factor in something like 5% discount rate, the actual difference came out to $200 between the two.

Got a 3 year newer car, tons more tech (modern infotainment, leather seats, keyless start, etc), 55k fewer miles, and $100/month better gas mileage.  Just driving in traffic back to work was amazing.  Turn on active cruise control and lane keep assist, and it'll drive itself down the highway in bumper to bumper traffic on it's own.

So what colour is it and what kind of rims?

Smart move, btw.

[MrH]

Yeah, I looked on a whim based on what my friend said.  Got $4,000+ off the Accord and a $27k for the 4Runner.

Ended up with the EX-L trim with the 2.0t + 10-speed auto.  Modern Steel Metallic (basically gray) with a black interior.  Kind of boring but that's alright.  The wheels are awful, but they're bad on all trim levels   I'd rather have the 17" wheels than the 19" just from a tire cost and comfort point of view.

Looks like this:

[12,000 RPM]

Congrats man!

[Lebowski]

 Nice ride. I don't know what it is w/ Honda and ugly wheels.

[68_427]

Congrats, but damn those wheels and wheel gap are hard to look at

[CaminoRacer]

Slam it

[veeman]

Congratulations!!  I don't see that many of this generation Accord around. 

[Rich]

congrats.  but that shnoz is huge in profile.  all the more protection for your future baby.

[68_427]

I honestly don't even hate this

[AutobahnSHO]

Nice! Congrats

[MrH]

It's really boring looking.

But wow is it good dynamically. It's ten times the car the Genesis ever was. It's amazing how far ahead it feels.

Active cruise control + lane keep assist is a game changer for traffic.

[Laconian]

Going from a truck DD to a car must be nice too. It drives me nuts how truck throttles have a step function between "go slowly but gargle fuel loudly" and "DOWNSHIFT AND GO LIKE HELL". Hondas feel so light and unencumbered by comparison.

[MrH]

There's power everywhere with this thing too. I didn't get the whimpy 1.5t. I got the torquier version of the type R engine. Chirps the tires in the first 3 gears. Upshifts are lightning quick. Downshifts are kind of disappointing though.

5 speed auto + NA V6 in a 4Runner feels totally different than 10-speed auto + this monster 2.0t in an accord.

And I averaged 32 mpg on today's commute