C&D's time with the Giulia QF concludes

[FoMoJo]

I'm hoping to get 10k out of my RE-71Rs but we'll see.

Seeing that you track it, well sort of, it's worth it. 

[FoMoJo]

I agree.  That's why my tires are hard and have (well, had, when new) 1/2" deep tread.

The Michelins on my wife's '09 Escape, that my daughter and boyfriend use, though not that often, are the originals.  I know I should insist that they replace them and I have, but they still have a lot of tread.

As for super sticky, unless you're doing some serious street racing, it's just a big waste.

[giant_mtb]

The Michelins on my wife's '09 Escape, that my daughter and boyfriend use, though not that often, are the originals.  I know I should insist that they replace them and I have, but they still have a lot of tread.

As for super sticky, unless you're doing some serious street racing, it's just a big waste.

Meh, if you've got the $, I don't see an issue with it.  Tires are the only thing that touch the road and the feel of a tire can make a big difference in driving, even just everyday driving.

[MX793]

Really?  You had to get new tires after 12 to 15K?

I got less than 9k out of the original Pirellis on the Mustang.  Fronts and rears were both down to near the wear bars.  I've got about 7k on the rears of my second set of tires and they're more than half gone.  Second set of fronts had to be replaced after 4k miles due to damage, so I'm on my third pair of those.

[FoMoJo]

I repeat, that's nuts.

[12,000 RPM]

Cheaper than boating/flying/heroin.

[FoMoJo]

Cheaper than boating/flying/heroin.

How about proper street tires and a set of track tires for those who actually go to the track.

[Submariner]

C&D's site is nigh-unreadable, it's an ad every fucking paragraph with a video on the side.

And they massacred the forums...err...backfires section.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

And they massacred the forums...err...backfires section.

Horrible!

[12,000 RPM]

How about proper street tires and a set of track tires for those who actually go to the track.

Why does it matter? It's not your money 

IMO UHP A/S is enough for primarily street driven cars that see cold weather. If you need more grip just get wider wheels and tires.

[Payman]

The Continentals that came with my Focus lasted almost 100,000 kms. I replaced them with Goodyears, and one day on the highway during a rainstorm I noticed the car was a bit squirrelly in the wet. Had a look at the tires when I pulled into a rest stop, and I was shocked to see they were worn beyond the wear bars and almost bald. They lasted less than 25,000 km. I have another set of Goodyears now but a different type, but only because I got them for almost nothing under warranty. 6000 kms on them so far, and I'm keeping an eye on them.

[MexicoCityM3]

The wear they report is perfectly normal for that type of car and tires with street driving.

I love the QF but yes I am scared of the reliability and in Mexico even more so because of the even less capable dealer network here. In comparison, my E90 M3 spent no more than a week in the shop for unscheduled maintenance over 5 years/50K miles. My E46 maybe a month or two over 13 years/65K miles.

[giant_mtb]

How about proper street tires and a set of track tires for those who actually go to the track.

Man, you're super concerned with other people's tires.

[MexicoCityM3]

How about proper street tires and a set of track tires for those who actually go to the track.

These class of cars are emotional purchases. You CAN feel the difference a better, softer tire makes in sporty street driving. To buyers of these class of cars, that can easily matter enough to eat the additional cost (on top of the already irrational cost of the car itself).

[SJ_GTI]

These class of cars are emotional purchases. You CAN feel the difference a better, softer tire makes in sporty street driving. To buyers of these class of cars, that can easily matter enough to eat the additional cost (on top of the already irrational cost of the car itself).

Absolutely you do. When I go from winter back to summer tires it makes a pretty big difference in how the car handles...and the winter tires are use are performance winter tires (they are basically equal to all season tires in the winter).

[GoCougs]

How about proper street tires and a set of track tires for those who actually go to the track.

Couldn't agree more - these types of tires are ridiculous. No on needs that and extremely few can legit afford it.

[FoMoJo]

Why does it matter? It's not your money 

IMO UHP A/S is enough for primarily street driven cars that see cold weather. If you need more grip just get wider wheels and tires.

Just making a point.  I'm actually pretty surprised that tires of this type wear so quickly.

How do they do in the rain?

[FoMoJo]

Man, you're super concerned with other people's tires.

Man, I'm just having a discussion.  Surprised that some tires wear so quick even if they are street/track tires.

[MrH]

Michelin Pilot Super Sports (and now Pilot Sport 4S) are worth every penny.  They're made of an alien material.

[Laconian]

Couldn't agree more - these types of tires are ridiculous. No on needs that and extremely few can legit afford it.

It is an $80,000 car with poor residuals. The buyers go into it knowing they're taking a bath. What's a few thousand dollars more?

[Laconian]

Michelin Pilot Super Sports (and now Pilot Sport 4S) are worth every penny.  They're made of an alien material.

I bought them for my Infiniti and only put about 6,000 miles on them... but the buyer of my car didn't bat an eye when I told her about them

[MrH]

I bought them for my Infiniti and only put about 6,000 miles on them... but the buyer of my car didn't bat an eye when I told her about them

I thought it was all hype, until I got them on the BRZ.  Now I've got the new 4S on the S2000.  Great in the wet, even better in the dry.  Below 50 degrees they get really sketchy though.

[Soup DeVille]

Obviously, the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio is not an appliance.  If you want an appliance, get a Camcord, Hyunkia, whatever.

Its not a vintage Ferrari either.

[Lebowski]

I had the super sports on the M3 and replaced with the 4S, both were great. I think I got like 12k miles out of the SS, not a huge deal to me as I'm such a low mileage driver (think I put about 15k on that car over 3 years). If I drove more miles that would be a bigger issue, I don't think I'd want to buy new tires every year.

[Laconian]

How much does it cost to get tires swapped? Maybe my OEM tires with lots of life in them (lol I never drive) could be my winter tires...

[BimmerM3]

It is an $80,000 car with poor residuals. The buyers go into it knowing they're taking a bath. What's a few thousand dollars more?

Gougs just likes to flex his frugality muscles whenever possible.

[FoMoJo]

Its not a vintage Ferrari either.

Well, it's not even a vintage Alfa either.  Kinda nice that they're making a good effort again at producing a car for the enthusiast.  Their saying used to be "Nothing handles like an Alfa."  Might be getting close to that again.

[MX793]

How much does it cost to get tires swapped? Maybe my OEM tires with lots of life in them (lol I never drive) could be my winter tires...

Probably about $25 a tire to swap and balance.

[BimmerM3]

How much does it cost to get tires swapped? Maybe my OEM tires with lots of life in them (lol I never drive) could be my winter tires...

I haven't had to do it for a few years (I have two sets of wheels now, so I just swap them myself), but it looks like it cost me $64 to get my winters mounted at the end of 2016.

[giant_mtb]

Yeah, my guy charges $60 for a swap 'n balance.