2025 MINI will be automatic only

[AutobahnSHO]

I have all the transmissions so I must be the top enthusiast.

edit: okay I don't have any CVTs.

traitor

Have you ever owned a CVT though?

[SJ_GTI]

Simmer down fellas, its gonna be OK.

[Eye of the Tiger]

traitor

Have you ever owned a CVT though?

Great for scooters.

E-CVTs make all the sense, too.

[ChrisV]

MGA, it was bugging me.

As for not forgetting, it was barely an issue at the time.  Even smoking was good for you back then.

Actually it was an issue. Before 1970, the states had sole responsibility for pollution-control activities, but even at the state level, serious efforts at environmental protection have only a short history. Oregon initiated the first statewide air-pollution-control effort in 1952; only California had mandated tailpipe emission standards for cars by 1970. In the late 1950s and 1960s, as national attention began focusing on environmental problems, pressure began to build for change.

That's when Earth Day started and why, in 1970 it had gone so far as to have, in his State of the Union address, Nixon say this:

     "The great question of the seventies is, shall we surrender to our surroundings, or shall we make our peace with nature and begin to make reparations for the damage we have done to our air, to our land, and to our water?

    Restoring nature to its natural state is a cause beyond party and beyond factions. It has become a common cause of all the people of this country. It is a cause of particular concern to young Americans, because they more than we will reap the grim consequences of our failure to act on programs which are needed now if we are to prevent disaster later.

    Clean air, clean water, open spaces-these should once again be the birthright of every American. If we act now, they can be.

    We still think of air as free. But clean air is not free, and neither is clean water. The price tag on pollution control is high. Through our years of past carelessness we incurred a debt to nature, and now that debt is being called."

And immediately after that, he and the Republicans created the EPA.

[MrH]

I have all the transmissions so I must be the top enthusiast.

edit: okay I don't have any CVTs.

Don't worry, you're not missing anything I'm glad to have dumped the only CVT we had in the fleet.

[GoCougs]

Actually it was an issue. Before 1970, the states had sole responsibility for pollution-control activities, but even at the state level, serious efforts at environmental protection have only a short history. Oregon initiated the first statewide air-pollution-control effort in 1952; only California had mandated tailpipe emission standards for cars by 1970. In the late 1950s and 1960s, as national attention began focusing on environmental problems, pressure began to build for change.

That's when Earth Day started and why, in 1970 it had gone so far as to have, in his State of the Union address, Nixon say this:

    "The great question of the seventies is, shall we surrender to our surroundings, or shall we make our peace with nature and begin to make reparations for the damage we have done to our air, to our land, and to our water?

    Restoring nature to its natural state is a cause beyond party and beyond factions. It has become a common cause of all the people of this country. It is a cause of particular concern to young Americans, because they more than we will reap the grim consequences of our failure to act on programs which are needed now if we are to prevent disaster later.

    Clean air, clean water, open spaces-these should once again be the birthright of every American. If we act now, they can be.

    We still think of air as free. But clean air is not free, and neither is clean water. The price tag on pollution control is high. Through our years of past carelessness we incurred a debt to nature, and now that debt is being called."

And immediately after that, he and the Republicans created the EPA.

The EPA killed jobs, killed industries, and its biggest sin is it simply drove the pollution overseas - from radical escalation of US involvement in the Middle East to the child and slave labor funding criminal enterprises that mine and process the elements and rare earth material for consumer electronics and batteries to the untold square miles of electronics junkyards.

True to the modern environmentalist form, only optics matter, not facts. The US has done worse, but not much, than the creation of the EPA.

[r0tor]

EPA has saved all our asses from cancer

[FoMoJo]

Actually it was an issue. Before 1970, the states had sole responsibility for pollution-control activities, but even at the state level, serious efforts at environmental protection have only a short history. Oregon initiated the first statewide air-pollution-control effort in 1952; only California had mandated tailpipe emission standards for cars by 1970. In the late 1950s and 1960s, as national attention began focusing on environmental problems, pressure began to build for change.

That's when Earth Day started and why, in 1970 it had gone so far as to have, in his State of the Union address, Nixon say this:

    "The great question of the seventies is, shall we surrender to our surroundings, or shall we make our peace with nature and begin to make reparations for the damage we have done to our air, to our land, and to our water?

    Restoring nature to its natural state is a cause beyond party and beyond factions. It has become a common cause of all the people of this country. It is a cause of particular concern to young Americans, because they more than we will reap the grim consequences of our failure to act on programs which are needed now if we are to prevent disaster later.

    Clean air, clean water, open spaces-these should once again be the birthright of every American. If we act now, they can be.

    We still think of air as free. But clean air is not free, and neither is clean water. The price tag on pollution control is high. Through our years of past carelessness we incurred a debt to nature, and now that debt is being called."

And immediately after that, he and the Republicans created the EPA.

No doubt all that is true.  However, to all/most of us who had a love affair with cars in the '60s, very little of it registered then.  We did take note that JFK was assassinated and someone landed on the moon and there was some crazy war going on in the East and some kind of civil rights and feminist and youth movements going on, however, it was more interesting to keep up with what was going on in the racing world, Le Mans, NASCAR at its best, Indy 500, Formula 1, but then Jim Clark got killed and we all felt heartbroken.  The '70s put an end to all that and everyone bought pick-up trucks.

[FoMoJo]

EPA has saved all our asses from cancer

Not everyone.

[AutobahnSHO]

Yeah even up through the mid-1900s we were still dumping way too much stuff into the rivers, lakes, oceans, air, land.

In Boise they started cleaning up the riverbanks where the factories had been dumping stuff. Then they started building trails along the river. One pile of cement etc... was so massive instead of removing it they covered it in dirt and grass and punched a tunnel through it.

[GoCougs]

Not everyone.

We just transferred those cases overseas (particularly to those that aren't White).