2025 Ram Ramcharger

Started by MrH, November 07, 2023, 07:47:47 AM

GoCougs

Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 14, 2023, 10:17:46 PMChevy figured it out on the 2nd Gen Volt. It's not that hard.

GM may have figured it out but the Volt itself was a parallel hybrid - the ICE had a direct clutched connection to the drive wheels in order to take over duties on a low/depleted battery:


GoCougs

Quote from: MrH on November 15, 2023, 07:56:51 AMYes, that's the idea of all PHEV vehicles?

If that's how the this thing will operate, anything more than ~150 miles and its eMPG = MPG and any topping off of charge sowewheres in that ~150 miles lowers eMPG substantially. IOW, its value as an EV is a plugged-in charge of ~150 miles with the advantage being less of a PITA if an owner is caught out not near a charger on low/depleted battery.

CaminoRacer

Quote from: GoCougs on November 15, 2023, 08:28:23 AMGM may have figured it out but the Volt itself was a parallel hybrid - the ICE had a direct clutched connection to the drive wheels in order to take over duties on a low/depleted battery:



Oh that's true. The 1st gen was serial but the improved 2nd gen was parallel.

RAM should be doing parallel then :lol:
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MrH

Parallel hybrids are more efficient from a gas consumption standpoint than a serial hybrid.  It makes sense to use a parallel hybrid if you intend to run the gas engine regularly.  The more rare it is, the more a serial hybrid makes sense.


Quote from: GoCougs on November 15, 2023, 08:43:41 AMIf that's how the this thing will operate, anything more than ~150 miles and its eMPG = MPG and any topping off of charge sowewheres in that ~150 miles lowers eMPG substantially. IOW, its value as an EV is a plugged-in charge of ~150 miles with the advantage being less of a PITA if an owner is caught out not near a charger on low/depleted battery.

Yep, exactly.  It's basically designed to be an EV truck, with a cheap gas engine thrown in to allow it to tow or roadtrip if needed.

I think that was the idea with the Volt originally, but the EV range wasn't large enough, so they switched to parallel to make it more efficient when you're forced to dip into the gas engine.
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: GoCougs on November 15, 2023, 08:43:41 AMIf that's how the this thing will operate, anything more than ~150 miles and its eMPG = MPG and any topping off of charge sowewheres in that ~150 miles lowers eMPG substantially. IOW, its value as an EV is a plugged-in charge of ~150 miles with the advantage being less of a PITA if an owner is caught out not near a charger on low/depleted battery.

Correct. It's a medium/low-range EV with built in charging station which runs off the mostly widely available fuel around....
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Laconian

It occurred to me that we are concerned about engine noise on a RAM. A RAM. The LSE muffler-delete ride of choice.

If anything it needs a sound symposer to make the Pentastar sound more like a whistling can of coins Cummins.
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GoCougs

Quote from: Laconian on November 15, 2023, 02:24:56 PMIt occurred to me that we are concerned about engine noise on a RAM. A RAM. The LSE muffler-delete ride of choice.

If anything it needs a sound symposer to make the Pentastar sound more like a whistling can of coins Cummins.

LSEs will avoid this think like the m-fing plague.

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Laconian

Quote from: GoCougs on November 15, 2023, 05:05:32 PMLSEs will avoid this think like the m-fing plague.

My friend with a PHEV Jeep keeps finding it vandalized by LSEs. They rip off the charging door, scratch the hybrid livery with keys, etc
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