944 Turbo

[Raza]

What do you guys think of these cars?  How reliable were they?  Would I be better off looking at an older but comparably priced 911?





Just an example, but it's cheaper and newer than the 83 911SC at which I was looking.

[93JC]

A buddy in high school had an '83 non-turbo. It spent more time being repaired than being driven.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I had a 83 non turbo, reliability wasn't too bad if they are maintained.

From a performance aspect the 944 turbo is better "bang for your buck". With minor modifications they can be very very fast(sub 5's to sixty).

Parts availability would probobly be better for the 944 vs the 911 your looking at.

[BMWDave]

I have heard that the 944s were extremely reliable cars.  And they are damn good looking.  The turbo model is also very, very, fast, and cheap to maintain.

[280Z Turbo]

I have heard that the 944s were extremely reliable cars.  And they are damn good looking.  The turbo model is also very, very, fast, and cheap to maintain.

Cheap to maintain? Very reliable? Are we talking about the 944 Turbo here?

I think that they look awesome and are very, very fast, but I think the repair bills would be a big problem.

[El Barto]

I have heard that the 944s were extremely reliable cars.  And they are damn good looking.  The turbo model is also very, very, fast, and cheap to maintain.

Cheap to maintain? Very reliable?

Cheap to maintian.... unless something breaks.  

[Fire It Up]

I thought you were gonna get a 3?

[BMWDave]

I have heard that the 944s were extremely reliable cars.  And they are damn good looking.  The turbo model is also very, very, fast, and cheap to maintain.

Cheap to maintain? Very reliable? Are we talking about the 944 Turbo here?

I think that they look awesome and are very, very fast, but I think the repair bills would be a big problem.

I thought I once heard that they were cheap to maintain since they were very reliable.  I'll have to check up on that.

[280Z Turbo]

If you're looking at 911s, I would try to find one of the 1984-89 models. As R&T put it, they are "a classic Porsche without the classic problems". I dream of owing one someday.  

[giant_mtb]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

[280Z Turbo]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

That's confusing. It's something like this. There have been several models of Porsches throughout the years such as the 356, 944, 968, 914, 928, 924, and of course the 911.

There are different generations of 911s. These are designated with another 9-- code. The current gerneration is the 997, the previous gen was the 996, the one before that was the 993, and I think the one before that was the 968.

These numbers have nothing to do with displacement so they are just useless codes.

[giant_mtb]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

That's confusing. It's something like this. There have been several models of Porsches throughout the years such as the 356, 944, 968, 914, 928, 924, and of course the 911.

There are different generations of 911s. These are designated with another 9-- code. The current gerneration is the 997, the previous gen was the 996, the one before that was the 993, and I think the one before that was the 968.

These numbers have nothing to do with displacement so they are just useless codes.

Alright that's what I figured...same car just different "generation", right?

[280Z Turbo]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.? Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^? B)? I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.? There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?? Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

That's confusing. It's something like this. There have been several models of Porsches throughout the years such as the 356, 944, 968, 914, 928, 924, and of course the 911.

There are different generations of 911s. These are designated with another 9-- code. The current gerneration is the 997, the previous gen was the 996, the one before that was the 993, and I think the one before that was the 968.

These numbers have nothing to do with displacement so they are just useless codes.

Alright that's what I figured...same car just different "generation", right?

The 944 is not a 911. The 944 is a front engine, water cooled 4 cyl, 2+2.

The 944 evolved from the 924 and the 968 evolved from the 944.

[BMWDave]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

The 944 still looks like a modern design...even 15 years later.  Its one of the best looking cars on the road today.

[giant_mtb]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

The 944 still looks like a modern design...even 15 years later.  Its one of the best looking cars on the road today.

It's deffinitely up there on that list...

[280Z Turbo]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

The 944 still looks like a modern design...even 15 years later.  Its one of the best looking cars in the repair shop today.

Agreed.

[BMWDave]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.? Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^? B)? I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.? There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?? Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

The 944 still looks like a modern design...even 15 years later.  Its one of the best looking cars in the repair shop today.

Agreed.

Its not always in the repair shop.  And it still is one of the best looking cars ever.

[Submariner]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

That's confusing. It's something like this. There have been several models of Porsches throughout the years such as the 356, 944, 968, 914, 928, 924, and of course the 911.

There are different generations of 911s. These are designated with another 9-- code. The current gerneration is the 997, the previous gen was the 996, the one before that was the 993, and I think the one before that was the 968.

These numbers have nothing to do with displacement so they are just useless codes.

Accualy, the 968 was a front engine water cooled car, as opposed to the mid, or rear engine, air cooled (now water cooled) 911.    

[280Z Turbo]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.? Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^? B)? I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.? There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?? Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

That's confusing. It's something like this. There have been several models of Porsches throughout the years such as the 356, 944, 968, 914, 928, 924, and of course the 911.

There are different generations of 911s. These are designated with another 9-- code. The current gerneration is the 997, the previous gen was the 996, the one before that was the 993, and I think the one before that was the 968.

These numbers have nothing to do with displacement so they are just useless codes.

Accualy, the 968 was a front engine water cooled car, as opposed to the mid, or rear engine, air cooled (now water cooled) 911.  

Yeah I know that. Those numbers are easy to mix up!

So the 1984-1989 models are 986s then right?

[Submariner]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

That's confusing. It's something like this. There have been several models of Porsches throughout the years such as the 356, 944, 968, 914, 928, 924, and of course the 911.

There are different generations of 911s. These are designated with another 9-- code. The current gerneration is the 997, the previous gen was the 996, the one before that was the 993, and I think the one before that was the 968.

These numbers have nothing to do with displacement so they are just useless codes.

Accualy, the 968 was a front engine water cooled car, as opposed to the mid, or rear engine, air cooled (now water cooled) 911.  

Yeah I know that. Those numbers are easy to mix up!

So the 1984-1989 models are 986s then right?

Something like that  B)  

[BMWDave]

I just found a Porsche 944 S from 87 for a little under 8K with only 59K miles on it.

[Raza]

I thought you were gonna get a 3?

I might keep the Passat and get a classic sportscar for weekend and/or sunny day driving.  I'm looking that the 911, 944, RX7, among others.

[Raza]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

the 944, 911, 912, 924, and 928 are all different models.  the 993, 996, 964, 997 are all generations of the 911.

[giant_mtb]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

the 944, 911, 912, 924, and 928 are all different models.  the 993, 996, 964, 997 are all generations of the 911.

I think they should make that more clear... <_<   Oh well I don't really care anyway...just as long as I know the current model.  B)  

[crv16]

I have heard that the 944s were extremely reliable cars.  And they are damn good looking.  The turbo model is also very, very, fast, and cheap to maintain.

Cheap to maintain? Very reliable? Are we talking about the 944 Turbo here?

I think that they look awesome and are very, very fast, but I think the repair bills would be a big problem.

A buddy of mine owned two 944 turbos.  First one, the oil change place (a bmw dealer!!!) put on the wrong oil filter.  He ended up driving it for a few miles and it siezed up.  Over $10,000 to rebuild the engine, so the dealer's insurance company totalled it.

Second one he put a chip in to increase the power.   Wow, what a fast car.  I personally had that one up to 155 mph.

That one too was a money pit.  Regular, multi-thousand dollar repairs.

[MX793]

I was seriously looking into getting a 944 a couple of years ago and did quite a bit of research.  The turbo models can be real money pits and the upkeep is frequent and costly.  Non-turbo models are generally more wallet friendly.  A newer S2 model is nearly as fast as the regular 951 (the 951S was the fastest of the 944 cars) and more reliable and cheaper to maintain.  Modification wise, the 951 is a better car than the 944 for bang for buck upgrades.  A simple chip, intake and exhaust and they are reported to run north of 170 mph flat out.

[MX793]

I dunno...but it's amazing how all the older 9-- cars still look somewhat modern.  Porsche did something right with that design. ^_^  B)  I always get confused on what all the 9-- numbers mean.  There's 944, 959, 911, etc...what do they all mean?  Just different generations or are they completely different cars?

the 944, 911, 912, 924, and 928 are all different models.  the 993, 996, 964, 997 are all generations of the 911.

The 944 and 924 are related.  The 944 evolved from the 924, though they were sold side by side for several years.  I believe the 912 and 911 are also related (the 912 being a 4 cylinder, cut-rate version) but am not 100% certain.  

[Run Away]

Yeah, the 912 is a 4-banger 911.

[TBR]

Yeah, the 912 is a 4-banger 911.

No, it is a completely different car.  

[Run Away]

Yeah, the 912 is a 4-banger 911.

No, it is a completely different car.

I know they look almost identical.

http://www.912registry.org/history.htm

Seems it was a 356 Based car with a 911 body pretty much.

http://www.answers.com/topic/porsche

" A cost-reduced model with the same body but 356-derived running gear (including its four-cylinder engine) was sold as the 912."