I had an idea for a project.

[TheIntrepid]

I know NOTHING about this stuff... sizes of engine bays or costs for all of this... but would it be possible for me to squeeze a 6.1L Hemi [or even a 5.7L with MDS] into my Intrepid? Maybe I can find a decent-condition 300, Charger, Ram, Magnum, Durango at a junkyard.

Anyone have more info?

[280Z Turbo]

*shakes head*

Anything is possible, but no.

[The Pirate]

Your main problem is going to be putting a RWD specific engine and transmission into a FWD car.  Even if you got the engine to fit, it would probably be transverse instead of longitudinal, and that gives you a problem with hooking a trasmission up to it that will power the front wheels.

I'm sure it's possible, but unless you are incredibly good at welding/fabricating, it's not likely.

[TheIntrepid]

I'm sure it's possible, but unless you are incredibly good at welding/fabricating, it's not likely.

I know nothing about any of that. I figured I could pay a dealership to do it? How about an AWD or RWD conversion?

[heelntoe]

i have some crazy project ideas but none are this crazy. even if you do an awd conversion, it would be a fwd based awd setup whereby you still need to mate a longitudinal engine to an fwd transmission. if i'm not mistaken, there is a ford minivan that uses such a transmission.

okay, actually, one of my project ideas is even crazier.

[TheIntrepid]

CVT?

[Rupert]

Um, yeah, sure, you could do that. Or you could save money and buy a car that comes with the Hemi new...

[Soup DeVille]

Your main problem is going to be putting a RWD specific engine and transmission into a FWD car.? Even if you got the engine to fit, it would probably be transverse instead of longitudinal, and that gives you a problem with hooking a trasmission up to it that will power the front wheels.

I'm sure it's possible, but unless you are incredibly good at welding/fabricating, it's not likely.

Actually, the chrysler LH platform cars are all longitudinal engines.

If I were Intrepid and serious about making a project car out of an Intrepid; I'd be looking at swapping a Mitsu twin turbo 6G72 into there; as far as I Know, thos have the same engine mounting and bellhousing bolt patterns as the 6G73s used in the LHs's.

[MX793]

I know nothing about any of that. I figured I could pay a dealership to do it? How about an AWD or RWD conversion?

A dealership likely wouldn't have the know-how or the tools required to do any of those things.

Here are the problems with dropping a Hemi in an LH Chrysler.  First, there's the space issue, though it could probably be made to fit.  The bigger problem would be the fact that I doubt Chrysler FWD transaxle could hold up to the Hemi's torque output.  Even if it could, I doubt it would simply bolt right up to the V8 without some kind of custom fabrication work.  And then you have to ask yourself, why would you want a hemi powered FWD?

A RWD conversion would probably be a necessity if you were to put a Hemi in an Intrepid.  But, this would require some pretty extensive custom fabrication work.

[Soup DeVille]

I know nothing about any of that. I figured I could pay a dealership to do it? How about an AWD or RWD conversion?

Ummm, no.

No dealership on earth is going to do that kind of work. You might find a Hotrod shop or fabb shop willing to take on the project, but they'll be billing you.

A lot. Figure 200+ hours at $70-$90/hr

[SaltyDog]

Or you can buy yourself a 94-96 Caprice SS, LT1-optioned Caprice, or a Buick Roadmaster and save yourself mad money.

[TheIntrepid]

Or you can buy yourself a 94-96 Caprice SS, LT1-optioned Caprice, or a Buick Roadmaster and save yourself mad money.

I would but I don't want an old car. I'm not even planning on doing this Hemi conversion it was just an idea. PERHAPS if it was practical then down the road I might.

[MX793]

Or you can buy yourself a 94-96 Caprice SS, LT1-optioned Caprice, or a Buick Roadmaster and save yourself mad money.

Roadmaster wagon with the faux wood sides like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buick-Roadmaster-Estate-Wagon-1995_W0QQitemZ120066853763QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6143QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Modded, it would be such an awesome sleeper at stoplights.

[280Z Turbo]

There are a few companies that offer V8 conversion kits for my Focus:

http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html

That's just to give you an idea of all the stuff you'd have to fabricate/adapt all by yourself. Plus, you'd need to find the motor, rear axle, driveshaft, trans. An Intrepid is not a good enough car to put all that work into.

Finding a way to turbocharge the 3.5L V6 seems like a much more practical way to go fast.

[Danish]

Its damn near impossible as the others have stated. The best thing to do is to modify the existing engine, or get a project car.

One other way you could make your car faster is to make it lighter

[Raza]

I say do it.  I want to watch and laugh.

[SaltyDog]

Roadmaster wagon with the faux wood sides like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buick-Roadmaster-Estate-Wagon-1995_W0QQitemZ120066853763QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6143QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Modded, it would be such an awesome sleeper at stoplights.

It sure would.  I think The Bartender has one like that.

[The Pirate]

Actually, the chrysler LH platform cars are all longitudinal engines.

If I were Intrepid and serious about making a project car out of an Intrepid; I'd be looking at swapping a Mitsu twin turbo 6G72 into there; as far as I Know, thos have the same engine mounting and bellhousing bolt patterns as the 6G73s used in the LHs's.

That I did not know.  What are the advantages of a longitudinal FWD setup?

[sparkplug]

I'm sorry to say this - Are you out your mind?

Hehehe. 

A far better idea would be to change the engine to one that runs off an alternative fuel source. Something that inspires people.

One that runs on Fart power. 

[Soup DeVille]

That I did not know.? What are the advantages of a longitudinal FWD setup?

Few and far between; which may be why you don't see it often. Chrysler was pushing 'Cab Forward' design at the time, and really those V6s are pretty cubelike anyways, so there may not be much difference in weight distribution. There are some that claim that they are smoother shifting and off the line because the engine does not pitch forward and back on its mounts like a transverse set up does. It also make it easier to have and AWD-optional vehicle line, although Chrysler never took advantage of that (except in the Stealth/3000GT).

The Toronados and Eldorados had longitudinal engines too.

[280Z Turbo]

One that runs on Fart power.

Nah, you'd end up shitting your pants on long trips.

[sparkplug]

Nah, you'd end up shitting your pants on long trips.

Speak for yourself.

[MX793]

Few and far between; which may be why you don't see it often. Chrysler was pushing 'Cab Forward' design at the time, and really those V6s are pretty cubelike anyways, so there may not be much difference in weight distribution. There are some that claim that they are smoother shifting and off the line because the engine does not pitch forward and back on its mounts like a transverse set up does. It also make it easier to have and AWD-optional vehicle line, although Chrysler never took advantage of that (except in the Stealth/3000GT).

The Toronados and Eldorados had longitudinal engines too.

3000GTs didn't have longitudinal mount engines, they were transverse.

IIRC, one advantage of longitudinal mount is that it's easier to get equal length half-shafts, which reduces torque steer.  I can't say I've ever heard much about torque steer in old Toronados, and those came with 455 cubic inch big blocks, so if a car was going to have torque steer it would be one of those.

[Soup DeVille]

3000GTs didn't have longitudinal mount engines, they were transverse.

IIRC, one advantage of longitudinal mount is that it's easier to get equal length half-shafts, which reduces torque steer.? I can't say I've ever heard much about torque steer in old Toronados, and those came with 455 cubic inch big blocks, so if a car was going to have torque steer it would be one of those.

Well, I can say for certain that the Eldos did not have equal length half-shaft; and they had 500 CI motors. Torque steer wasn't engineering out as much as it was effectively crushed by a power steering box that would be at home on a Peterbilt.

[Rupert]

I'm sorry to say this - Are you out your mind?

Hehehe. 

A far better idea would be to change the engine to one that runs off an alternative fuel source. Something that inspires people.

One that runs on Fart power. 

So... A Honda engine?

Had to be said...

[850CSi]

My crazy idea is to buy an E36 318iS and drop in an LS2.

That would be insane.

[Danish]

My crazy idea is to buy a rice rocket.... and restore it to stock

Like this:

[280Z Turbo]

My crazy idea was to drop a VG30ET (from an 80s 300ZX turbo) into my old Ranger.

I got damn close too! But, I didn't know if the oil pan would clear the crossmember/suspension, how to make motor mounts, tranny mounts, custom driveshaft, blah, blah, blah...

There are so many things on a motor swap that you wouldn't ever think of until you get there.

[heelntoe]

my crazy plan is to put a v6 into the rear of my car, like the renault clio v6.

[TheIntrepid]

OR a 1990 Camry 4WD with an Audi V10...mid-engined.