Mustang vs. 350Z

[The Pirate]

Shelby GT (or regular GT, for that matter) all the way!  However, the 350Z is a damn nice car.

[Minpin]

You guys clearly have no idea how much more the Shelby GT is over a regular GT. It's 10k and change for the shelby GT over the price of the normal GT. You can order all the parts from ford racing for about 3k. So basically that other 7k is for the Shelby name. I voted for the 350z because I just like it alot better for the price you CAN get them at. A very close second though is to buy a base GT and install the next 10k in "real" aftermarket parts...
Reference:http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/12692/first-drive-2007-ford-mustang-shelby-gt.html


I will give the looks to the GT though..it does have some very striking angles. 

[Onslaught]

I think the stock GT looks better than that thing. Give me a GT and the money waisted on the Shelby name and I could make a better car then that.

[Minpin]

Give me a GT and the money waisted on the Shelby name and I could make a better car then that.

Yep, thats exactly what i said in my previous post. You paying out the ass for a name only. That's why in this specific comparo the 350 got my vote. 

[565]

Very easy choice.? 350Z any day.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I'd take a 350Z, but i'm alittle biased. I'm just more of a Z fan, and i don't like backseats in 2 door cars.

In another year(or less) when nissan sticks the 330HP "rev-up" motor in the Z then it would be an even easier pick.

I recall a press release not too long ago(a year or less) that stated nissan was going after the 911 with the next z, not in numbers but in feel between the car and the driver. With this new motor and possibly a few more ponies (340-350) this v-6 and a minor redesign could put the z where they want it to be.

Either way i'll stick with my TT, which will be getting a stillen exhaust/race pipes and ECU in about 2 weeks, a package good for 420-430 HP....and i still like the looks of the Z32 over the new one.

[SVT666]

In another year(or less) when nissan sticks the 330HP "rev-up" motor in the Z then it would be an even easier pick.

...and for the 2009 modl year the reguar Mustang GT is getting 350 hp.  I'm talking about these two cars and what they offer right now.

[MexicoCityM3]

Not an easy choice, I'd have to drive them both. Having driven neither, I feel the Mustang has a more character but the Z is probably the better car objectively. As an only car I'd take the Z. As a second car most likely the "rawer" 'stang.

[Rupert]

I love that riveted on hood scoop.  It just looks so badass.

Seems to me that if a hood scoop is coming from the factory, it should look like it came from the factory. The riveted on thing looks like some kid tacked it on there and then it got a good paint job.

Nonetheless, I voted for the Mustang. I'm not a huge fan of the latest Z.

[SVT666]

Seems to me that if a hood scoop is coming from the factory, it should look like it came from the factory. The riveted on thing looks like some kid tacked it on there and then it got a good paint job.

You can tell some people have never seen old muscle cars up close.

[280Z Turbo]

Well, I don't really like either one, but I chose the 350Z.

The Mustang almost looks like some kind of retro novelty kit car.

[280Z Turbo]

You can tell some people have never seen old muscle cars up close.

[Onslaught]

I don't know about this hood scoop but the regular GT one is just held on with double sided tape. I've had to put a few of those ugly things on peoples cars for Ford. I personally don't like them.

[Nethead]

I'd take the Shelby or the GT over the Z.?

SaltyDog: DogDude!? Great lookin' '93 Sentra--we had a '93 four-door XE Limited Edition and it was splendid!? The two-door woulda been beyond splendid!? And an SE-R woulda been fantastic!

Back to the topic:? The original 240Z--or the last Z before the current one--woulda made this a tougher decision, but not the current 350Z.? Any S197 Mustang gets my vote!? The Nethead here ain't a scoops dude, so my preference would be the Shelby GT-H in black-&-gold with the automatic replaced with a Tremec 6060, which the good folks at Tremec say is the best manual transmission they've ever made.? Shelby could make that conversion so easily since the only car to offer the 6060 so far is the Shelby GT500--which would also have a driveshaft and universals to match perfectly!? A little Sawzall on the sheetmtal behind the C-scoops and some ducting and ya got rear brake cooling a la the original G.T. 350s, too.? The GT500's front brake cooling ducts could be adapted for the front, or else bolt on the front brake cooling kit from the FR500C.? Yank the antenna and the radio, do a little sheetmetal work on the antenna hole, tint the windows darker than midnight in a cave, and put 30s on all four while you save up for the intercooled Vortech, the porting & polishing, the cams & springs, the long-tubes, the Ford GT mufflers, and perhaps a ducktail spoiler and you're set to go!? And then get that SCCA "B" competition license...

[LonghornTX]

I don't know about this hood scoop but the regular GT one is just held on with double sided tape. I've had to put a few of those ugly things on peoples cars for Ford. I personally don't like them.

I personally don't like non-functional scoops on the S197.  They, IMO, wreck the lines of the car and look somewhat awkward on the large hood.  However, I guess if I had to have one, I would want it to be riveted on as opposed to taped.

[omicron]

Mustang. It has a V8 that sings to me, and a rawness that I love.

[J86]

Z: although this may be sacrilege around here  I'm just not much of a Mustang guy...

[Eye of the Tiger]

Z: although this may be sacrilege around here? I'm just not much of a Mustang guy...

I used to like Mustangs, but the new one is too retarded looking to be likeable.

[Nethead]

I used to like Mustangs, but the new one is too retarded looking to be likeable.

NACar:  NADude, what did you like before that you don't like in the current Mustang?

[SVT666]

NACar:? NADude, what did you like before that you don't like in the current Mustang?

Maybe he liked that they didn't look like Mustangs.

[Eye of the Tiger]

NACar:? NADude, what did you like before that you don't like in the current Mustang?

I liked it when Ford Tempos, Escorts, and 5.0 Mustangs all looked the same. They were functional. The GT was a bit ugly though.

The only think I really dislike about the new Mustang is all of the styling. I absolutely hate retro-styled new cars. It goes against what new Mustangs used to be; that is, new. The new one is just new-old look. Sure, it's good for business because most people absolutely drool over the things, but that doesn't mean I have to like it!

You know what I liked? The last GTO. It wasn't trying to be something else, it was what it was and it was good, even if people didn't realize it. The Magnum/Charger and even the new Challenger are more reasonable, even if they are going for some retro cues themselves. You know what I will like? The G8, even the styling is slightly Pontiac-esque (which I also hate), it's not an overstated pile of retro crap.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Maybe he liked that they didn't look like Mustangs.

Styling is supposed to evolve with the times, not jump back 40 years to try to be something that it used to be. But people from that generation love it. I am not of that generation; I grew up in the 80's and 90's, so maybe you'll understand what a Mustang is to me.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The question is, could it have been a better car if they didn't go out of their way to make it look a certain way? The answer is yes. The answer to that question is almost always yes, but it's an even bigger yes with the Mustang.

[omicron]

I liked it when Ford Tempos, Escorts, and 5.0 Mustangs all looked the same. They were functional. The GT was a bit ugly though.

The only think I really dislike about the new Mustang is all of the styling. I absolutely hate retro-styled new cars. It goes against what new Mustangs used to be; that is, new. The new one is just new-old look. Sure, it's good for business because most people absolutely drool over the things, but that doesn't mean I have to like it!

You know what I liked? The last GTO. It wasn't trying to be something else, it was what it was and it was good, even if people didn't realize it. The Magnum/Charger and even the new Challenger are more reasonable, even if they are going for some retro cues themselves. You know what I will like? The G8, even the styling is slightly Pontiac-esque (which I also hate), it's not an overstated pile of retro crap.

Good lad. You may have an SS-V for your kindness.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Good lad. You may have an SS-V for your kindness.

Why thank you kind sir. I will accept your offering of an SS-V, and I will enjoy it much.

[Raghavan]

Z
Though i'd love a Mustang too. Just not a GT500.

[omicron]

Why thank you kind sir. I will accept your offering of an SS-V, and I will enjoy it much.

There is room up front for your basils, too.

[SVT666]

You know what I liked? The last GTO. It wasn't trying to be something else, it was what it was and it was good, even if people didn't realize it. The Magnum/Charger and even the new Challenger are more reasonable, even if they are going for some retro cues themselves. You know what I will like? The G8, even the styling is slightly Pontiac-esque (which I also hate), it's not an overstated pile of retro crap.

You hate retro but you don't mind the Challenger?? Take your rose coloured glasses off.


1969 Mustang


2006 Mustang



Challenger comparison.

[SVT666]

Styling is supposed to evolve with the times, not jump back 40 years to try to be something that it used to be. But people from that generation love it. I am not of that generation; I grew up in the 80's and 90's, so maybe you'll understand what a Mustang is to me.

I turn 30 next month, I grew up in the 80s and 90s too.

[SVT666]

Z
Though i'd love a Mustang too. Just not a GT500.

Not talking about the GT500.