Mid-size Lux Sedans

[850CSi]

335i 6MT MSRP: 38,900

S4 6MT MSRP: 47,500

Now keep in mind here that an S4 comes standard with things that are optional on the 335i (AWD, leather seats, sport package, etc...).

Comparably Equipped:

S4 w/ Premium Package and Sprint Blue Paint is $49,970
335i w/ Premium Package, Sport Package and Montego Blue Paint is $44,400
335xi w/ Premium Package, Sport Package (incl. 18" wheels) and Montego Blue Paint is $46,100

So if you want AWD the BMW is about ~4k cheaper, and if you don't care about AWD the BMW is about 5.5k cheaper.

On weight, a 335xi weighs 3814 lbs, a 335i weighs 3593 lbs, and an S4 weighs 3869 lbs. So if you want to save weight you can go with the RWD 335i, but if you want AWD the cars weigh about the same.

Although I don't know what would possess someone to get AWD on a 335i.

[ro51092]

Although I don't know what would possess someone to get AWD on a 335i.

Better traction=better acceleration numbers?

Fuck that, you must only get a 3er with MT and RWD.

[LonghornTX]

335i, no question.

[SJ_GTI]

AWD is nice in low traction situations.

If I moved back to Montreal, AWD (and a 6MT) would be a definite requirement.

[850CSi]

AWD is nice in low traction situations.

If I moved back to Montreal, AWD (and a 6MT) would be a definite requirement.

It's nice to have, but why a requirement?

[Champ]

Put some snows on that Vdub you'd be fine!

[SJ_GTI]

It's nice to have, but why a requirement?

Its a requirement for me, not in general. If I can have AWD, why settle for FWD or RWD?

[sandertheshark]

Although I don't know what would possess someone to get AWD on a 335i.

personally I think that would suck.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Well i'd go

1. 335
2. S4

Or this way if price is really no object

1. RS4 
2. 335

[ro51092]

I thought you hated all VW's and Audis?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

are you talking to me?

[Raghavan]

YES

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I've always stated that i like Audi S and RS cars, they are the only VW/Audi products i'd ever buy, everything else isn't all that great IMO.

[giant_mtb]

G35

Probably just 'cause I'm biased because my brother has a coupe. 

[Champ]

FBC when are you going to let me drive your Z?

[Tave]

S60R or 3-series

[FlatBlackCaddy]

FBC when are you going to let me drive your Z?

What Z, i don't have a Z.......

[Raghavan]

What happened to it?

[TheIntrepid]

Didn't he trade it for the MS6?

[The Pirate]

Didn't he trade it for the MS6?

No, he didn't. 

[TheIntrepid]

My bad.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I was just messing around.

I was claiming not to have one so i wouldn't have to let champ drive it, i suppose i should just tell him the truth.....I just don't think he could handle the power.

[Champ]

I'm rated up to 400HP so I hope you don't have more than that!

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I'm rated up to 400HP so I hope you don't have more than that!

Well i just ordered a catback and race pipe set as well as a computer upgrade from stillen. It should be here next week, it will probobly be around 420-430 FWHP.

I'd let you ride in it, but chances of mashing the gas yourself would be 50-50.

[Raghavan]

Well i just ordered a catback and race pipe set as well as a computer upgrade from stillen. It should be here next week, it will probobly be around 420-430 FWHP.

I'd let you ride in it, but chances of mashing the gas yourself would be 50-50.

[Champ]

Well i just ordered a catback and race pipe set as well as a computer upgrade from stillen. It should be here next week, it will probobly be around 420-430 FWHP.

I'd let you ride in it, but chances of mashing the gas yourself would be 50-50.

What's FWHP?

I'll take heads.

[ArchBishop]

only A tool would pick the overstyled, and underperforming Euro trash known as Audi.

[thewizard16]

only A tool would pick the overstyled, and underperforming Euro trash known as Audi.

Who are you, and are you joking?

[Raghavan]

What's FWHP?

I'll take heads.

Front wheel HP

[ArchBishop]

Who are you, and are you joking?

I'm Serious. The Audi's have to be some of the biggest failures I have seen. It?s scary that they sell, with the reliability of Mercedes, but lack of name Benz recognition > I personally feel they are ugly cars, with sub par styling and Dynamics. It?s hard to imagine any real enthusiast liking any car they make.