Excursion vs. Expedition EL

[ifcar]

Which do you prefer?

[the Teuton]

Give me the one that has a pair.  Either a V10 or diesel Excursion if I have to have one of the two.

[heelntoe]

well, if i'm going to get an uber SUV, i might as well get the original.

[giant_mtb]

If I were to buy either of these vehicles, I obviously have enough money to not even care about gas prices, so I'd want the most badass one I could get...that being a nice diesel Excursion. 

[Rupert]

well, if i'm going to get an uber SUV, i might as well get the original.

Suburban? Land Rover?

[goldenlover1101]

Neither...but the excursion is more badass

[GoCougs]

The Excursion was a horrific vehicle compared to a Suburban IMO.

Solid front axle, recirc-ball steering, twisty frame, front leaf springs, and probably some other stuff as well.

The (3/4-ton) Suburban was as good or superior in virtually every single vehicle characteristic save interior room (and not by much).

The new Expedition EL though is on top IMO.

[Tave]

Ew, neither.

[chevyguy06]

I'd take a Suburban over either, but I've gotta go with the Diesel Excursion.

[SVT666]

The Expedition EL...because it's the best jumbo Ute on the market right now.

[CMan]

The Excursion was the single greatest and coolest SUV known to man, ever. It could pull anything you hooked onto the back of it, and it could pull 20+ MPG's too. The Expi EL is a half a$$ half ton that will NEVER stand up to the Excursion.

[CJ]

Excursion.

[J86]

Excursion!!!

I want one

[565]

Excursion all the way.  It was a mobile middle finger to the environmental types.

[SVT666]

The Excursion was the single greatest and coolest SUV known to man, ever. It could pull anything you hooked onto the back of it, and it could pull 20+ MPG's too. The Expi EL is a half a$$ half ton that will NEVER stand up to the Excursion.

It never got 20+ mpg.

[Eye of the Tiger]

It never got 20+ mpg.

ya it could... if it was going downhill with the wind drafting a semi with the engine turned off.

[TheIntrepid]

It never got 20+ mpg.

According to my CarGuide Buyer's Guide 2003, it got 17/23 respectively.

[SVT666]

According to my CarGuide Buyer's Guide 2003, it got 17/23 respectively.

That has to be with the diesel (which was a $5K option).  I was thinking in gasoline terms.

[TBR]

Even with the diesel that is very optimistic. I know a guy with a Powerstroke equipped F-250 RWD, he gets about 15. 

I voted for the EL.

[93JC]

That has to be with the diesel (which was a $5K option).? I was thinking in gasoline terms.

What idiot would buy the gasser anyway?




You wouldn't get the gasser, right?

[SVT666]

What idiot would buy the gasser anyway?




You wouldn't get the gasser, right?

I don't like diesels.  I love the torque and towing power for sure, but I don't like the noise and the smoke.  I wouldn't buy an Excursion anyway so I guess it really doesn't matter.

[93JC]

[heelntoe]

I don't like diesels.  I love the torque and towing power for sure, but I don't like the noise and the smoke.  I wouldn't buy an Excursion anyway so I guess it really doesn't matter.

have you driven a modern diesel. there is almost no smoke and next to no noise.

[93JC]

Well, to be fair, the Excursion used the ancient 7.3L Powerstroke for a good deal of its life, so it really was quite noisy.

[SVT666]

have you driven a modern diesel. there is almost no smoke and next to no noise.

The noise issue is being solved...definitely.? However the smoke thing is fine when they just roll off the lot, but I still see plenty of new diesels that spew black smoke when the driver puts his foot in it.  Unless you are planning and towing all the time, I don't know how anyone can justify the extra expense to get the diesel.

[heelntoe]

The noise issue is being solved...definitely.  However the smoke thing is fine when they just roll off the lot, but I still see plenty of new diesels that spew black smoke when the driver puts his foot in it.  Unless you are planning and towing all the time, I don't know how anyone can justify the extra expense to get the diesel.

well, based on the price diff between diesel and petrol and the extra cost of the diesel version of the vehicle, it is said the you much drve 40kms daily to break even. that's the indian scenario.

[CMan]

7.3 PS FTW!!!

[Tave]

have you driven a modern diesel. there is almost no smoke and next to no noise.

That's just wrong. I live in an area where Cummins, Powerstrokes, and Duramaxes are almost as common as their gas counterparts. They smoke more than a chimney.

In fact, I was in a new Cummins yesterday. Someone was tailgating us so the dude who was driving romped on it to send 'em a big cloud of oily fumes to the face.

[Tave]

It never got 20+ mpg.

I was thinking the same thing. There's no way, even with the diesel.

[heelntoe]

That's just wrong. I live in an area where Cummins, Powerstrokes, and Duramaxes are almost as common as their gas counterparts. They smoke more than a chimney.

In fact, I was in a new Cummins yesterday. Someone was tailgating us so the dude who was driving romped on it to send 'em a big cloud of oily fumes to the face.

keyword being modern.
there are plenty of diesels where i live and the newer ones dont give out smoke unless something is wrong with them.