Jaguar XJ Goes Diesel

BMWDave · June 23, 2005, 05:13:34 AM

Jaguar XJ Goes Diesel
Date Posted 06-22-2005

HALEWOOD, England ? Jaguar is set to introduce a turbodiesel version of its flagship XJ model, which until now was available only with gasoline engines.

The product of a joint development between the PSA Group of France and Ford Motor Co. will be the most significant aspect of the updated XJ-Series.

The new 2.7-liter, six-cylinder engine makes 207 horsepower. The twin-turbo diesel weighs only 405 pounds, thanks to its aluminum composition. The engine can deliver a maximum 322 pound-feet of torque, outperforming the 4.2-liter gas variant. The diesel will accelerate the XJ from zero to 60 miles per hour in 8.1 seconds and reach a top speed of 140 mph.

In addition to producing all that power, the XJ's average fuel consumption of 35 miles per gallon is reasonable for a V6, and the addition of a catalyzed diesel particulate filter ensures the carbon dioxide emissions meet stringent European Stage 4 requirements.

Aside from the diesel engine, the new XJ will possess a host of new features such as a tire-pressure monitoring system, automatic speed limiter and Bluetooth wireless connectivity. And the XJ becomes the industry's first to be equipped with electronically controlled active engine mounts, which cancel 90 percent of engine vibration when the car is at idle.

What this means to you: The diesels are coming! The diesels are coming!

ifcar · June 23, 2005, 05:54:44 AM

They'd never bring that to the US. A 2.7-liter XJ8 wouldn't sell.

R33 GT-R · June 23, 2005, 07:47:44 AM

QuoteThey'd never bring that to the US. A 2.7-liter XJ8 wouldn't sell.

Like you said, it would bomb horribly.

ifcar · June 23, 2005, 07:54:39 AM

Unless they had high sales expectations, it couldn't.

R33 GT-R · June 23, 2005, 08:01:03 AM

Like someone would want it over the Super 8 or the S. Maybe a poser.

ifcar · June 23, 2005, 08:05:28 AM

Or maybe someone who wants fuel economy over power (Wimmer). They wouldn't be able to sell very many, but then again they aren't selling very many XJs anyway.

Raza · June 23, 2005, 08:06:21 AM

This is great news in the world of The Diesel. But it won't sell here.

ifcar · June 23, 2005, 08:11:02 AM

QuoteThis is great news in the world of The Diesel. But it won't sell here.

That's fine, they won't sell it here.

R33 GT-R · June 23, 2005, 08:16:29 AM

QuoteOr maybe someone who wants fuel economy over power (Wimmer). They wouldn't be able to sell very many, but then again they aren't selling very many XJs anyway.

The XJ is due for some TLC from the Ford boys. I still thinks a stunning car for the geriatric crowd, yes I think it's labled, but spice it up some and snag some of the younger upwardly mobile crowd.

Raza · June 23, 2005, 08:19:32 AM

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QuoteOr maybe someone who wants fuel economy over power (Wimmer). They wouldn't be able to sell very many, but then again they aren't selling very many XJs anyway.
The XJ is due for some TLC from the Ford boys. I still thinks a stunning car for the geriatric crowd, yes I think it's labled, but spice it up some and snag some of the younger upwardly mobile crowd.

Nah, that won't happen. VW tried that "You drove a Jetta when you were younger, now drive a Phaeton because you're successful!"...it won't work. Young people don't want XJ sized cars--what Jag needs to concentrate on now is a new S Type and something to replace the god-awful X Type. And I hate the nomenclature. It should be "ST6" "ST8" and "STR". The X has two 6 cylinder engines, so I'm not sure how to do that..."XT6" and "XTS"?

ifcar · June 23, 2005, 08:19:58 AM

What do you mean? The XJ is already arguably the most fun-to-drive car in its class.

R33 GT-R · June 23, 2005, 08:22:32 AM

QuoteWhat do you mean? The XJ is already arguably the most fun-to-drive car in its class.

I drove a Super 8 and it was a blast but like I said, give me more grey hair and another 30 years and I'll think about it.

Raza · June 23, 2005, 08:28:05 AM

The XJ is best in class. Probably. It's definitely up there. 2nd or 3rd at least. Which says alot from what it was just a few years ago.

R33 GT-R · June 23, 2005, 08:40:21 AM

QuoteThe XJ is best in class. Probably. It's definitely up there. 2nd or 3rd at least. Which says alot from what it was just a few years ago.

From what I understand Ford supposedly invested millions in quality control issues at Jaguar plants to produce a reliable car that stays home instead of the shop.

Raza · June 23, 2005, 08:41:19 AM

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QuoteThe XJ is best in class. Probably. It's definitely up there. 2nd or 3rd at least. Which says alot from what it was just a few years ago.
From what I understand Ford supposedly invested millions in quality control issues at Jaguar plants to produce a reliable car that stays home instead of the shop.

Ford should be doing something--other than losing a billion in Jag's F1 program.

R33 GT-R · June 23, 2005, 08:43:03 AM

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QuoteThe XJ is best in class.? Probably.? It's definitely up there.? 2nd or 3rd at least.? Which says alot from what it was just a few years ago.
From what I understand Ford supposedly invested millions in quality control issues at Jaguar plants to produce a reliable car that stays home instead of the shop.
Ford should be doing something--other than losing a billion in Jag's F1 program.

Agreed, it's pure stupidity.

BMWDave · June 23, 2005, 10:14:13 AM

QuoteThe XJ is best in class. Probably. It's definitely up there. 2nd or 3rd at least. Which says alot from what it was just a few years ago.

Its also one of the most reliable in its class...every long term test I see of the XJ gushes about how the car has been trouble free, etc. Its also the lightest car in its class, which is very good.

TBR · June 23, 2005, 10:27:56 AM

Like everyone else has said, we will never get this car, but perhaps we will get a XJ equipped with the new diesel V8 the XK will be getting.

ifcar · June 23, 2005, 10:30:08 AM

Possible but unlikely.

cawimmer430 · June 24, 2005, 12:08:40 PM

2.7-l diesel for an XJ? Seems kind of low if you take into regard the competition. I mean 207-hp and the appropriate torque seem fine, but Audi, BMW and Mercedes offer the A8 3.0 TDI, 730d and S320 CDI respecticely: all engines with an engine cc rating of at least 3-liters or higher. I'm sure it's a good engine, but I have a feeling that it will be outclassed by the big German three diesels.

ifcar · June 24, 2005, 12:10:12 PM

Quote2.7-l diesel for an XJ? Seems kind of low if you take into regard the competition. I mean 207-hp and the appropriate torque seem fine, but Audi, BMW and Mercedes offer the A8 3.0 TDI, 730d and S320 CDI respecticely: all engines with an engine cc rating of at least 3-liters or higher. I'm sure it's a good engine, but I have a feeling that it will be outclassed by the big German three diesels.

A luxury car doesn't need to outgun a Corvette, Wimmer.

cawimmer430 · June 24, 2005, 12:14:21 PM

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Quote2.7-l diesel for an XJ? Seems kind of low if you take into regard the competition. I mean 207-hp and the appropriate torque seem fine, but Audi, BMW and Mercedes offer the A8 3.0 TDI, 730d and S320 CDI respecticely: all engines with an engine cc rating of at least 3-liters or higher. I'm sure it's a good engine, but I have a feeling that it will be outclassed by the big German three diesels.
A luxury car doesn't need to outgun a Corvette, Wimmer.

You're learning IFCAR.

Next time you do your midsize mainstreamer comparison, make sure to mention that none of those cars can smoke a Corvette...which means they SUCK and are NOT WORTH buying. :D :P

ifcar · June 24, 2005, 12:21:17 PM

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Quote2.7-l diesel for an XJ? Seems kind of low if you take into regard the competition. I mean 207-hp and the appropriate torque seem fine, but Audi, BMW and Mercedes offer the A8 3.0 TDI, 730d and S320 CDI respecticely: all engines with an engine cc rating of at least 3-liters or higher. I'm sure it's a good engine, but I have a feeling that it will be outclassed by the big German three diesels.
A luxury car doesn't need to outgun a Corvette, Wimmer.
You're learning IFCAR.

Next time you do your midsize mainstreamer comparison, make sure to mention that none of those cars can smoke a Corvette...which means they SUCK and are NOT WORTH buying. :D :P

I'll keep that in mind. :D