Tesla reduced claimed range on almost every model they make. Sets the precedent for the litany of civil suits about it.

Oh, and WSJ dropped a big article about Elon's incessant drug use too.

Things are going great.

Quote from: MrH on January 07, 2024, 09:44:29 AMOh, and WSJ dropped a big article about Elon's incessant drug use too.

Meh, all sorts of people use drugs. And if he's got a 'scrip for ketamine, so be it. Ketamine helps a lot of people.

Quote from: Laconian on January 06, 2024, 09:41:01 PMhttps://www.theverge.com/2020/10/5/21502379/tesla-modely-roof-flies-off-convertible-quality-issue

Model Y now comes in a targa top trim

Couple of years ago...

I'll have what he's having. 

"The dealers offered to service the Model Y for free and give Chien's family a rental in the meantime, but the family declined the offer. Chien said his parents are likely to buy a different vehicle altogether."

Quote from: giant_mtb on January 07, 2024, 09:59:17 AMMeh, all sorts of people use drugs. And if he's got a 'scrip for ketamine, so be it. Ketamine helps a lot of people.

I wish I could get some ketamine.

Quote from: giant_mtb on January 07, 2024, 09:59:17 AMMeh, all sorts of people use drugs. And if he's got a 'scrip for ketamine, so be it. Ketamine helps a lot of people.

Sure, people take prescription drugs all the time.  CEOs don't abuse recreational drugs and show up to interviews high.  That's not normal at all.

Quote from: giant_mtb on January 07, 2024, 09:59:17 AMMeh, all sorts of people use drugs. And if he's got a 'scrip for ketamine, so be it. Ketamine helps a lot of people.

Prescription psychiatric drugs can fuck you up even when it's a doctor writing the script. He said he relies on Ambien to fall asleep and that shit alone will unravel a person very quickly. Doctors will say "take this for a few days, but also do X and Y and Z to reduce your stress get your ass on a regular sleeping schedule pronto". People ignore X and Y and Z and proceed to take the medicine forever, and usually bad stuff comes with prolonged use...

Anyways, this

QuoteOne former Tesla director, Linda Johnson Rice, grew so frustrated with Musk's volatile behavior and her concerns about his drug consumption that she didn't stand for re-election to the electric-car company's board in 2019, according to people familiar with the matter.

indicates that his drug use is a visible and tangible pain in the ass to those around him, not just a private thing he does in the evening.

Quote from: MrH on January 07, 2024, 01:20:39 PM(
Sure, people take prescription drugs all the time.  CEOs don't abuse recreational drugs and show up to interviews high.  That's not normal at all.

It's not "normal" but it's common such that 1/3-1/2 of the entire country is under the influence of one thing or another, and I'd surely bet that includes billionaire CEOs, esp. when lumping in the (over)use of HGH/steroids/etc. (= cringe caricature that Bezos has become).

When you get like a Musk, Bezos, Jobs, Gates, Buffett, etc., you are virtually 100% free of the consequences that apply to us Little People (and Musk is shaping up to be the most infamous of them all).

I'm reading Walter Isaacson's bio of Steve Jobs: LSD, weed, mushrooms: all figure prominently. Maybe Barra & Farley should try some - help them figure the paths out of their current messes.

The US now has the refreshed Model 3: https://www.tesla.com/model3

I saw one on one of the Atlanta freeways just after Thanksgiving, evidently out on test.

Zero tax incentives available, and the Performance version is gone (as in China) - so maybe these are made in Shanghai?

Quote from: Morris Minor on January 08, 2024, 04:59:34 AMI'm reading Walter Isaacson's bio of Steve Jobs: LSD, weed, mushrooms: all figure prominently. Maybe Barra & Farley should try some - help them figure the paths out of their current messes.

Don't know if she'd benefit from whatever drug cocktail lead to this rambling mess..

The pseudointellectual free association starts at the 15 minute mark and never quits.

Haha they love it.

So only 2/3 the thrust of the Saturn V, a rocket that first launched in 1967.

I hate the modern space program. I can't watch it if but for that.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2024/01/15/elon-musks-latest-robot-video-accidentally-gives-away-the-magic-trick/amp/

Bottom right hand corner - you can see the motion captured human's hands telling Optimus what to do.

What a scam!

Mark your calendar, boys. We're going to have an Westworld-style android dystopia next year.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/25/tesla_conference_call/

"I think we've got a good chance of shipping some number of Optimus units next year," Musk said on the call. "It has the potential to be the most valuable product of any kind ever, by far."

Musk kept going. "We're really building the future. I mean, the Optimus lab looks like the set of Westworld, but admittedly, that was not a super utopian situation," Musk said. It was at that point an unknown speaker on the call stepped in.

"Yeah, not the best reference," the speaker, who was unidentified in call transcripts, said. "We're not entering Westworld anytime soon."

HAHAHAHA, Down ~12% today. That call was a disaster. How is this all allowed to continue? Jesus.

I for one can't wait to have my own android butler.

Quote from: SJ_GTI on January 26, 2024, 06:13:09 AMI for one can't wait to have my own android butler.

If you're lucky, it will be able to fold a single, preplaced t-shirt very slowly while you control it 5 feet away.

Quote from: MrH on January 26, 2024, 07:15:09 AMIf you're lucky, it will be able to fold a single, preplaced t-shirt very slowly while you control it 5 feet away.

Tesla has invented folded t-shirts!

Quote from: SJ_GTI on January 26, 2024, 06:13:09 AMI for one can't wait to have my own android butler.

Mine will be called Saunders. And he would be single-stack LLM/neural net-trained to bring me a Hendricks & Fever Tree every day at 5:00 PM local. 



... and a second one at 5:08.

C'mon, guys. If a humanoid robot can fold shirts there are other services they can (WILL) provide and then we all will collectively seldom if ever leave the house.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tesla-model-y-becomes-first-ev-top-global-sales-charts

And they're still overcapacitized.

This looks really nice. But I'm guessing many are holding out for the Juniper Y. We love our crossovers

No offense to MKBHD but I'm holding out my judgment until I see reviews written by actual journalists, especially reviews that compare the Highland Model 3 to current competition. Influencer pseudo-journalists pull their punches because they want to stay in manufacturers' good graces.

I'm trying to keep an open mind but stacking the deck by limiting exposure to friendly press comes across as fishy/insecure to me.

Quote from: Laconian on February 09, 2024, 12:15:23 PMNo offense to MKBHD but I'm holding out my judgment until I see reviews written by actual journalists, especially reviews that compare the Highland Model 3 to current competition. Influencer pseudo-journalists pull their punches because they want to stay in manufacturers' good graces.

I'm trying to keep an open mind but stacking the deck by limiting exposure to friendly press comes across as fishy/insecure to me.

I actually really like MKBHD.  He's a tech guy.  He's been doing some car reviews though, but he'll be the first to admit he's kind of new to the car world.  He mostly just evaluates a car on the merits of its tech.  He's a bit of a Tesla fan boy, but he's starting to change his tune

He sold his Model S Plaid on Cars and Bids and bought a new 911 turbo S.  He's starting to appreciate other aspects of cars outside of just pure speed and tech.  I wouldn't look to him to gave really thoughtful, in depth car reviews, but I don't think he's just mindlessly shilling either.

He's not a mindless shiller but he's nowhere near the level of  car magazines during their heyday. The critiques when he does come up with them, come across as so freakin soft. I watch him too but I always get a strong whiff of Apple/Tesla fanboy when he talks about their products or their competitors' products.

Remember Vinfast? Poor Kevin (2o6) was massively exposed because he was the only one saying that the emperor had no clothes. He was vindicated in the end but it was crazy how writing an honest article was interpreted as a massive throwdown.

Quote from: Laconian on February 09, 2024, 12:35:25 PMHe's not a mindless shiller but he's nowhere near the level of  car magazines during their heyday. The critiques when he does come up with them, come across as so freakin soft. I watch him too but I always get a strong whiff of Apple/Tesla fanboy when he talks about their products or their competitors' products.

Remember Vinfast? Poor Kevin (2o6) was massively exposed because he was the only one saying that the emperor had no clothes. He was vindicated in the end but it was crazy how writing an honest article was interpreted as a massive throwdown.

Yeah, I have totally different expectations for Marques than I do for someone like Camissa, because cars aren't really his thing.  Camissa and Lieberman are way more disappointing than a softball review from Marques.  It's interesting you think he's an Apple fan boy.  He carries an iPhone and Android phone at all times, but I've always gotten the impression he's much more into Android.  I think he just carries the iPhone to test iOS things, iMessage, and the camera, and his primary phone is whatever Android phone he's using at the time.

Hmm, maybe I'm being unfair.

In any event I think Apple fanboyism is more normal nowadays. I couldn't identify during the era of peak Jony Ive.

Camissa went on a bit of a rant a week or two ago and swore off ever talking about the Cybertruck again... In his words, if you say a nice thing about the CT 1/2 the Internet will lose their minds, if you say a bad thing about the CT the other 1/2 the Internet will lose their minds.

The swarm around Tesla is just an awful bipolar shit storm of haters/fanboys