Just bought a 2003 Land Cruiser (look, parking lots are Technically land too, OK?) to augment (not replace) he Family Truckster, which needs some attention that requires taking it out of commission for a while.
Yes, I'll get pics.
It been looking for Land Cruisers for a long time and had my heart set on an FJ62 ('80s model), but they kept evading me. So, when the front crank seal for the wagon started leaking more than I was comfortable with,I went ahead and got something close.
So far, Inreally like it and see where the reputation for feeling solid comes from. Also, I've been able to fix the annoying Nav system error message by turning the screen off.
More details to follow.
Family Truckster engine swap time?
Quote from: MX793 on December 22, 2016, 11:40:20 AM
Family Truckster engine swap time?
Yes, but it's a process. First step is getting all my inlaws shit out of my garage.
Do you still have the 8 liter cadillac too?
Wait it's the front seal? C'mon man that's easy. But do go ahead with the Powerstroke Family Truckster swap.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 22, 2016, 11:44:07 AM
Wait it's the front seal? C'mon man that's easy. But do go ahead with the Powerstroke Family Truckster swap.
-1
Cummins
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 22, 2016, 11:41:15 AM
Yes, but it's a process. First step is getting all my inlaws shit out of my garage.
Oh hell no.
Throw it out on the curb. Or load it all in a Uhaul trailer, tow it to their house and park it. Or tow it to a junktard and scrap the entire thing. Tell Uhaul it was stolen.
Quote from: MrH on December 22, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
Do you still have the 8 liter cadillac too?
Yes. Except it's a 472 (7.7 liter, shorter stroke, same family) and a 425 (original). I have considered selling it often, but my wife is attached to it as it was her grandma's.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 22, 2016, 11:44:07 AM
Wait it's the front seal? C'mon man that's easy. But do go ahead with the Powerstroke Family Truckster swap.
Well, that's the straw and the proverbial camel. Steering box is likely going wonky, heater core is plugged up, and there are just a bunch of other things I want to do. Getting another vehicle has been an option I've been kicking around for a while, and his seemed like a good one.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on December 22, 2016, 11:55:57 AM
Oh hell no.
Throw it out on the curb. Or load it all in a Uhaul trailer, tow it to their house and park it. Or tow it to a junktard and scrap the entire thing. Tell Uhaul it was stolen.
I'm selling most of the stuff over Craigslist.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 22, 2016, 12:05:18 PM
I'm selling most of the stuff over Craigslist.
That is what I am doing with many of my personal belongings.
Those are awesome, consider me jealous
Next thing you know you'll be telling us you're gay and are selling real estate in the mountains.
Also if you don't mind me asking, how much did you scoop it for/how many miles?
Quote from: CALL_911 on December 22, 2016, 02:38:36 PM
Also if you don't mind me asking, how much did you scoop it for/how many miles?
9500, with 220,000 miles.
Which sounds stupid to most people, I know, but it's in excellent condition and these are known to last.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on December 22, 2016, 02:16:15 PM
Next thing you know you'll be telling us you're gay and are selling real estate in the mountains.
Ha! No. Joe being one of the few here who have actually met me can tell you, I'd never cut it as a gay guy.
(http://i.imgur.com/1YYqyV4.jpg)
Quote from: Submariner on December 22, 2016, 03:12:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1YYqyV4.jpg)
Ok. This is funny.
I cracked up.
Wow. Meatspin. :lol:
LOL
Nice job, too bad it's not a 62.
So when are we going to get pics?
Quote from: Submariner on December 28, 2016, 09:52:49 AM
So when are we going to get pics?
All house guests are gone tomorrow morning. I'll get something up then.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 28, 2016, 11:38:22 AM
All house guests are gone tomorrow morning. I'll get something up then.
Are all the house guests squatting in the Mall Crawler, or what?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2016, 01:37:08 PM
Are all the house guests squatting in the Mall Crawler, or what?
Well, they're keeping me busy.
I prefer this movie. And Submariner and Soup DeVille acted along to share the misery! :evildude: :devil:
(https://s24.postimg.org/rp7ef2k6t/09120900109021902190120.jpg)
Pyongyang?
Snazzy.
Since still no pics... here's a LX I've seen the last two nights.
(https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t51.2885-15/e35/15802109_1375104149219934_3959595895678304256_n.jpg)
Does it have a winch?
Quote from: 68_427 on December 30, 2016, 02:53:31 PM
Since still no pics... here's a LX I've seen the last two nights.
(https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t51.2885-15/e35/15802109_1375104149219934_3959595895678304256_n.jpg)
Are you in Dubai again?
y it have F1 tyres :lol:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 30, 2016, 08:30:54 AM
Pyongyang?
Snazzy.
They love 1970s American cars there! Have you not seen the funeral of Kim Jong-Il? :lol:
Quote from: 68_427 on December 30, 2016, 02:53:31 PM
Since still no pics... here's a LX I've seen the last two nights.
(https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t51.2885-15/e35/15802109_1375104149219934_3959595895678304256_n.jpg)
Are you in fucking Abu Dhabi?
Sugar mama
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on December 30, 2016, 02:56:00 PM
Does it have a winch?
No winch. No supercharger. No air suspension. No mudders. No balls.
On the front; yes.
Also yes I'm in Abu Dhabi. Was in Dubai the last two weeks. Saw a G65 on 18's with knobbies as well but I was driving so no pic
That explains the sand tires and no winch. You can't hook a winch to sand.
There was a winch on the front.
Cough cough
(https://s28.postimg.org/hviw9ofvx/IMG_2985.jpg)
Okay, so two weeks for a shifty picture ain't bad...
Anyways. I'm really liking it so far. Rides and handles more truck like than many would like, but still solid and responsive in a heavy handed way. Mileage is lousy, but I expected that.
First thing to go is going to have to be these tires, which are Michelin somethings. Probably looking at Toyo or Nitto ATs a few sizes up in height, and I think I'll powder coat the stock rims black. All the aftermarket rims in this size look like the belong on an Escalade owned by a guy who uses his gold chains to accent his chest hair.
Do newer 4runner wheels not fit?
Stupid in-flight wifi is too slow to load the picture.
Quote from: 68_427 on January 02, 2017, 08:49:01 AM
Do newer 4runner wheels not fit?
No. Tundra wheels would fit, but none of those really catch my eye either. There are a couple of aftermarkets that don't look horrible.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
(https://s28.postimg.org/hviw9ofvx/IMG_2985.jpg)
Okay, so two weeks for a shifty picture ain't bad...
Anyways. I'm really liking it so far. Rides and handles more truck like than many would like, but still solid and responsive in a heavy handed way. Mileage is lousy, but I expected that.
First thing to go is going to have to be these tires, which are Michelin somethings. Probably looking at Toyo or Nitto ATs a few sizes up in height, and I think I'll powder coat the stock rims black. All the aftermarket rims in this size look like the belong on an Escalade owned by a guy who uses his gold chains to accent his chest hair.
That's nice! Looks good in green also.......
I think it'll look a lot cleaner when I take the running boards off.
BFG KO2 tires? What size?
Was it a southern car? Body appears remarkably good for a vehicle with that kind of mileage to have lived in the rust belt its whole life.
Just need a winch, a snorkle, some knobbies, brush bars, a light bar, and a spare tire strapped to the roof and you'll be all set for mall crawling.
Quote from: MX793 on January 02, 2017, 10:29:22 AM
Was it a southern car? Body appears remarkably good for a vehicle with that kind of mileage to have lived in the rust belt its whole life.
Just need a winch, a snorkle, some knobbies, brush bars, a light bar, and a spare tire strapped to the roof and you'll be all set for mall crawling.
Surprisingly no.
It was a Traverse City car: serviced every 3000 miles without fail at the local Toyota dealership there.
Quote from: MrH on January 02, 2017, 10:25:27 AM
BFG KO2 tires? What size?
Interwebs says 285/70-18s without a lift.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 09:28:36 AM
No. Tundra wheels would fit, but none of those really catch my eye either. There are a couple of aftermarkets that don't look horrible.
Mike linked me to a site a while back with some good clean looking five and six spoke wheels for various Toyota trucks. IIRC the pricing wasn't bad either.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 10:38:28 AM
Surprisingly no.
It was a Traverse City car: serviced every 3000 miles without fail at the local Toyota dealership there.
WOW! That's really good shape for snowy Traverse City!
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on January 02, 2017, 01:10:45 PM
WOW! That's really good shape for snowy Traverse City!
Retiree that went south for the winter maybe?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 01:20:39 PM
Retiree that went south for the winter maybe?
Makes sense!
Next on the list: disabling the DRLs, and finding a Bluetooth adapter for the radio. Don't know if I should bother trying to find a replacement for the missing 5-CD magazine or not.
Instead of DRLs, mount a giant LED lightbar on the roof.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
Next on the list: disabling the DRLs, and finding a Bluetooth adapter for the radio. Don't know if I should bother trying to find a replacement for the missing 5-CD magazine or not.
They guys on the Corvette forum gave this one really good reviews!!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015MGRO64/?tag=viglink20400-20
That is a good SUV design. Congratulations, Soup.
get the high spec rear spoler and arab splash graphics
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
Next on the list: disabling the DRLs, and finding a Bluetooth adapter for the radio. Don't know if I should bother trying to find a replacement for the missing 5-CD magazine or not.
How about getting a HU that talks Bluetooth natively?
Quote from: Laconian on January 03, 2017, 10:35:24 AM
How about getting a HU that talks Bluetooth natively?
The HU is integrated into the Nav screen, and no aftermarket units seem to talk to it. I did find a wired in unit that uses the CD changer controls, which might be what I end up doing.
I wonder if it's worth it to find another center console insert that doesn't have the CD changer in it (it takes up over half the storage space.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 03, 2017, 03:13:50 PM
The HU is integrated into the Nav screen, and no aftermarket units seem to talk to it. I did find a wired in unit that uses the CD changer controls, which might be what I end up doing.
I wonder if it's worth it to find another center console insert that doesn't have the CD changer in it (it takes up over half the storage space.
IIRC, your model (a post facelift) has a much more "integrated" center stack than it's slightly older self (which used a typical head unit for the radio or NAV). It might be tricky to swap that out. I'd just stick to BT streaming if I were you.
Other than that, some off-road lights mounted on the front bumper would look great.
Air bags or stock springs?
Quote from: Submariner on January 03, 2017, 06:03:55 PM
IIRC, your model (a post facelift) has a much more "integrated" center stack than it's slightly older self (which used a typical head unit for the radio or NAV). It might be tricky to swap that out. I'd just stick to BT streaming if I were you.
Other than that, some off-road lights mounted on the front bumper would look great.
Air bags or stock springs?
Real springs: which eliminates one of the most talked about "issues" in these years.
Yeah, it's pretty integrated, and staying. The unit I talked about just replaces the CD changer input with a BT link, and uses the factory steering wheel buttons to scroll through tracks.
It does need better lights, but other than tires and maybe wheels soon, and removing the running boards, I'm not going to do much else for a while. I've gotta decide what exactly to do with the wagon. Even if I don't replace the engine, there's some other work that needs doing. Gonna try to bite it off in smallish chunks because I need to balance my time with other, more adult and responsible things.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 03, 2017, 03:13:50 PM
The HU is integrated into the Nav screen, and no aftermarket units seem to talk to it. I did find a wired in unit that uses the CD changer controls, which might be what I end up doing.
I wonder if it's worth it to find another center console insert that doesn't have the CD changer in it (it takes up over half the storage space.
Does the climate control tie into the nav screen too or not? I think what most people end up doing is swapping to a non-nav stereo and HVAC, and then putting in a double DIN updated stereo.
Quote from: MrH on January 04, 2017, 08:27:14 AM
Does the climate control tie into the nav screen too or not? I think what most people end up doing is swapping to a non-nav stereo and HVAC, and then putting in a double DIN updated stereo.
Yes.
Some have retrofitted the non-Nav center stack pieces, but all I really want is to listen to my music and have hands free phone calls.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2017, 08:43:09 AM
(https://s28.postimg.org/hviw9ofvx/IMG_2985.jpg)
Okay, so two weeks for a shifty picture ain't bad...
Anyways. I'm really liking it so far. Rides and handles more truck like than many would like, but still solid and responsive in a heavy handed way. Mileage is lousy, but I expected that.
Congrats!
Has to handle better than the one I drove in Kabul- had 1.5in thick windows and armor in the doors and floor :mrcool:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 06, 2017, 07:50:04 PM
Congrats!
Has to handle better than the one I drove in Kabul- had 1.5in thick windows and armor in the doors and floor :mrcool:
A Jankel?
It's interesting to see how differently the parts and accessories companies seem to approach the LC compared to the Jeep/Pickup off-road crowd. Dual battery setups are some of the most offered things for he LC, and the biggest lift you'll see offered is 2.5", while if this was an F-150, you'd see dozens of lifts up to about 12 inches.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 09, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
It's interesting to see how differently the parts and accessories companies seem to approach the LC compared to the Jeep/Pickup off-road crowd. Dual battery setups are some of the most offered things for he LC, and the biggest lift you'll see offered is 2.5", while if this was an F-150, you'd see dozens of lifts up to about 12 inches.
I imagine the huge lifts are pretty useless outside of like... mudding. And I wouldn't expect to see many LCs out mudding.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 09, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
It's interesting to see how differently the parts and accessories companies seem to approach the LC compared to the Jeep/Pickup off-road crowd. Dual battery setups are some of the most offered things for he LC, and the biggest lift you'll see offered is 2.5", while if this was an F-150, you'd see dozens of lifts up to about 12 inches.
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Well, there's an exception to every rule I suppose.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 09, 2017, 12:00:01 PM
I imagine the huge lifts are pretty useless outside of like... mudding. And I wouldn't expect to see many LCs out mudding.
What I see a lot of is camping stuff: like a whole portable kitchen that folds up in the roof rack and stuff.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 09, 2017, 01:10:13 PM
What I see a lot of is camping stuff: like a whole portable kitchen that folds up in the roof rack and stuff.
Yup. Land Cruisers seem to be a lot more popular with the overlanding crowd than the mudding and technical offroading folks.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 06, 2017, 07:53:59 PM
A Jankel?
??
No we had 'Yotas that were aftermarket up-armored.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 10, 2017, 08:04:10 AM
??
No we had 'Yotas that were aftermarket up-armored.
Apparently that's what some Jankels are.
http://www.jankel.com/protected-suvs
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 09, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
Yup. Land Cruisers seem to be a lot more popular with the overlanding crowd than the mudding and technical offroading folks.
Same with Tacos. Lots of camper toppers and roof top tents and stuff. I'd like to get into it. The most I've done is put my tent in the bed camping once because it was raining. :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 10, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
Same with Tacos. Lots of camper toppers and roof top tents and stuff. I'd like to get into it. The most I've done is put my tent in the bed camping once because it was raining. :lol:
For sure. The overlanding subreddit is like 80% 4Runners, Tacos, and FJ Cruisers.
Overlanding = offroading for people who want to sound smart.
:lol:
IMO unless you use your rig a lot for camping trips, it's a huuuge waste of time and money to set it up all fancy with lots of cabinetry and fold-out bits and roof mounted this and water system that, etc. It probably takes these guys more time to get everything set up one time than it does to construct a modestly luxurious camp spot with a tent and a foldable table and chairs (not to mention the time to build it, but I guess that's a hobby), and you only have to set camp up one time if you're staying in one place for multiple nights. You have to set up your truck every time you want to drive it somewhere, even if you come back to the same spot.
What I'm saying is, don't go nuts without thinking it through fully. Personally, I'm good with a couple of simple things that allow me to sleep in the back (screens, rain shields) and keep the essentials with me (wood box o' stuff), and the rest can pretty much be a standard camping trip.
Quote from: Rupert on January 10, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
Overlanding = offroading for people who want to sound smart.
:lol:
:lol:
Yes and no though. It's more of a subset of offroading. Growing up in the SE, I always thought of offroading as like mudding, or going out on technical trails just for the fuck of it. Overlanding seems like it's more about getting out in the middle of nowhere, multi-day trips, and all that. It's all offroading and they can definitely overlap, but it seems like there are some distinct differences.
I just want to build a platform for sleeping since the Explorer's back isn't *quite* flat, and if I'm gonna do that I might as well build in a couple of drawers for storage. Definitely nothing too crazy though.
Yeah, overlanding is more about long trips into the middle of no where. I don't think any of those guys are really setting up camp for multiple nights.
Some of the builds are really cool though. My overlanding gear is an inflatable mattress and pump that fit in the back with the seats down :lol: throw in a sleeping bag and I'm set.
Quote from: Rupert on January 10, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
Overlanding = offroading for people who want to sound smart.
:lol:
IMO unless you use your rig a lot for camping trips, it's a huuuge waste of time and money to set it up all fancy with lots of cabinetry and fold-out bits and roof mounted this and water system that, etc. It probably takes these guys more time to get everything set up one time than it does to construct a modestly luxurious camp spot with a tent and a foldable table and chairs (not to mention the time to build it, but I guess that's a hobby), and you only have to set camp up one time if you're staying in one place for multiple nights. You have to set up your truck every time you want to drive it somewhere, even if you come back to the same spot.
What I'm saying is, don't go nuts without thinking it through fully. Personally, I'm good with a couple of simple things that allow me to sleep in the back (screens, rain shields) and keep the essentials with me (wood box o' stuff), and the rest can pretty much be a standard camping trip.
Yeah, I've camped out of my truck many times before, dirtbike included. But GEAR! And cool TENTS! And STUFF!
Yeah, long trips in the middle of nowhere, I got that, but isn't that a lot of effort for such a specific thing? OK, if you're going on an epic month-long western road trip, it makes some sense to put some thought into it, but how many people are doing that vs. the occasional or even frequent weekend warrior camping trip?
Not many. But if you have the money and enjoy it... :huh:
It's no different than putting $3k into suspension modz for weekend rock crawling.
I mean I'm not talking about making it illegal here. ;)
But for rock crawling, you need $3k in suspension mods. You don't need that to go camping. I guess I don't really get all the gear and systems and shit that some people feel they need to enjoy the outdoors. Or I do get it, and just don't like it. It's an adversarial way of being in nature, and IME that's a great way to not have fun and/or do some resource damage. If you feel the need to be dominant over nature as opposed to a part of it... You know?
I think a lot of it is just so they can take pictures of it to post on the internet. The camping part is okay-ish, but the Instagram likes are what makes it worthwhile.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 10, 2017, 08:22:50 PM
I think a lot of it is just so they can take pictures of it to post on the internet. The camping part is okay-ish, but the Instagram likes are what makes it worthwhile.
Pretty much. I'll continue to get by with my 4x6 tent that fits in my bed if it has to. Ground with a pad is uhhh just fine. All my camping supplies fit in the bed and/or bed, even with dirtbike. Otherwise, I don't really get the point of roof tents besides cool factor. But hey, whateva. Not like I have $1700 to spend on some cool roof rack tent thing anyways. :lol:
Quote from: Rupert on January 10, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
I mean I'm not talking about making it illegal here. ;)
But for rock crawling, you need $3k in suspension mods. You don't need that to go camping. I guess I don't really get all the gear and systems and shit that some people feel they need to enjoy the outdoors. Or I do get it, and just don't like it. It's an adversarial way of being in nature, and IME that's a great way to not have fun and/or do some resource damage. If you feel the need to be dominant over nature as opposed to a part of it... You know?
I totally understand and agree with your points. Like, a normal tent for two adults fits in a tube bag that's 4' long and maybe a foot in diameter. Why sacrifice your entire bed space to carry a loft? heh
I do like the idea of a bed topper for camping, though. Makes it similar to sleeping in an SUV...but that's what tents are for. Aggggh!
If you don't need to haul a dirtbike around, a bed topper makes sense for just about any situation IMO.
Roof tent
I think the rooftop tent is really popular in Australia because of snakes and dingos.
Anyways, Rupert makes good points. The problem with having all your stuff attached to your vehicle is it then makes it hard to walk anywhere. Plus, what happens when you can't find a level spot with enough space? Some of the things there are really cool, but they seem to me to be pretty limiting.
Also what happens when you find out the hard way that your 27 year old Toyota is still a 27 year old vehicle and you have to buy a new one? Goodbye sweet mods, start again.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 10, 2017, 09:51:15 PM
I totally understand and agree with your points. Like, a normal tent for two adults fits in a tube bag that's 4' long and maybe a foot in diameter. Why sacrifice your entire bed space to carry a loft? heh
I do like the idea of a bed topper for camping, though. Makes it similar to sleeping in an SUV...but that's what tents are for. Aggggh!
Sleeping in the back is actually a time saver and comfort increaser (and safety too if you find yourself in a rest area on the side of the freeway or camping in griz country and are paranoid about it). You can leave your bedding set up in the back while you drive around for the day or to the next spot, and that saves a fair bit of time setting up and taking down a tent (I also just hate setting up and taking down tents). If you have to go through a lot of rigmarole to get the back ready, or to set up your roof tent, though...
Most roof top tents seem to be pretty easy to setup. Don't have any real experience there, but most look like a flip open kind of thing. Still you have to set up your bag and mat in it, but they don't look bad for setup. And as long as you get another vehicle with a roof rack, it'd be transferable.
Still looks like a lot of expense without a lot of benefit. Unless you know, snakes. Or dingos.
I think they usually have supports you have to deploy as well? And the weight and aero disadvantage...
Dingos and snakes, though. Scorpions and baby lions, too.
Quote from: Rupert on January 11, 2017, 09:09:33 PM
I think they usually have supports you have to deploy as well? And the weight and aero disadvantage...
Dingos and snakes, though. Scorpions and baby lions, too.
You know, I don't know. There's a ladder, but that doesn't seem like much trouble. It could be interesting to find out how much they rock around in the wind.
The other draw of sleeping in the back of an SUV is that it's really really weatherproof if it needs to be.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 11, 2017, 09:07:36 PM
Most roof top tents seem to be pretty easy to setup. Don't have any real experience there, but most look like a flip open kind of thing. Still you have to set up your bag and mat in it, but they don't look bad for setup. And as long as you get another vehicle with a roof rack, it'd be transferable.
Still looks like a lot of expense without a lot of benefit. Unless you know, snakes. Or dingos.
I've never actually used one but I watched someone fold their's up a few months ago. It was super easy.
Something like that isn't even on my radar (way too many other things I'd rather spend money on), but I see the appeal.
Quote from: Rupert on January 11, 2017, 09:22:15 PM
The other draw of sleeping in the back of an SUV is that it's really really weatherproof if it needs to be.
So true. I'd like to get a topper some day. But dirtbike.
Lil' trailer?
Just lay it down in the bed, like a bicycle in a trunk.
(https://forum.ih8mud.com/media/062-nitto-terra-grabbers-trd-rock-warrior-wheels-are-on.35157/full)
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(http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/aquajohn/lc2.jpg) (http://s970.photobucket.com/user/aquajohn/media/lc2.jpg.html)
Quote from: 68_427 on January 12, 2017, 12:53:31 AM
(http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae187/aquajohn/lc2.jpg) (http://s970.photobucket.com/user/aquajohn/media/lc2.jpg.html)
Really diggin that one. Don't know about the snorkel (seems goofy on anything that doesn't have a stripped out interior), but the bumper and tire/wheel setup is spot on.
I'd want some protection around that fairlead though.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 10, 2017, 03:18:45 PM
Apparently that's what some Jankels are.
http://www.jankel.com/protected-suvs
Ours were newish trucks, kind of like the 200 pictured there, but I don't think it was that company's work. But yes, same idea.
Someone blew up a car bomb in a convoy in 2007, everyone in both our trucks walked away with only scratches, trucks were really beat up, 8 civilians died, city block all the windows were broken.
Well, this thread ended poorly.
Car caught fire today. Totaled. I don't know why, fire started on left side of engine above the exhaust manifold.
Holy crap! Sorry to hear about that happening. Hope that your insurance covers the loss.
WTF
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 23, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Holy crap! Sorry to hear about that happening. Hope that your insurance covers the loss.
It looks like it will. I paid below market for it and insurance will cover it.
Wtf! Were you driving or did it happen when parked?
Quote from: 68_427 on January 23, 2017, 03:38:02 PM
Wtf! Were you driving or did it happen when parked?
I was picking up the kids at school. Started smoking as I was leaving the driveway, so I stopped, and when I opened the hood it burst into flames.
Hope I can cancel the fog lights I just ordered...
That really stinks. It's probably best that it is totaled as repairing damage from engine fires can be a real mess.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Well, this thread ended poorly.
Car caught fire today. Totaled. I don't know why, fire started on left side of engine above the exhaust manifold.
Holy shit. Maybe oil that leaked onto the manifold?
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 23, 2017, 03:41:17 PM
Holy shit. Maybe oil that leaked onto the manifold?
maybe but I doubt it. Engine was actually super clean, and no drips to be found anywhere.
I almost wonder if some animal or something got up under that huge stupid assed plastic cover Toyota puts over these engines.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 03:43:35 PM
maybe but I doubt it. Engine was actually super clean, and no drips to be found anywhere.
I almost wonder if some animal or something got up under that huge stupid assed plastic cover Toyota puts over these engines.
Was it too clean? I've been warned to be skeptical of clean engine bays because the seller might have cleaned it up to try to hide a leak.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 23, 2017, 03:53:48 PM
Was it too clean? I've been warned to be skeptical of clean engine bays because the seller might have cleaned it up to try to hide a leak.
Well, it was still clean two days ago when I had the hood open last, and I'd been driving it for a month.
Mouse chewed the fuel line
Woah. :wtf:
That's a shame. At least you'll end up ahead a bit? Get that old one Nick posted.
Cruiser guys suspect this was a starter failure (I forgot the starter is in between the cylinder banks and under the manifold). Apparently the starter contacts weld together and leave the starter engaged while the engine is running and eventually overheat the cable.
Quote from: MrH on January 23, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Woah. :wtf:
That's a shame. At least you'll end up ahead a bit? Get that old one Nick posted.
I hope so. Still I'm a bit bummed out. I was really starting to like that vehicle.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
Cruiser guys suspect this was a starter failure (I forgot the starter is in between the cylinder banks and under the manifold). Apparently the starter contacts weld together and leave the starter engaged while the engine is running and eventually overheat the cable.
A known problem then? Anything from Toyota on it?
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 23, 2017, 05:27:58 PM
A known problem then? Anything from Toyota on it?
No recalls, and most who seem to have had this problem had put on dual batteries without an isolator switch, but apparently it can happen stock.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
Well, it was still clean two days ago when I had the hood open last, and I'd been driving it for a month.
Fair enough. I don't actually open my hood very often. :lol:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
Cruiser guys suspect this was a starter failure (I forgot the starter is in between the cylinder banks and under the manifold). Apparently the starter contacts weld together and leave the starter engaged while the engine is running and eventually overheat the cable.
Interesting. Are there any potential warning signs if you know what to look for, or do people just replace the starter before a certain mileage?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Well, this thread ended poorly.
Car caught fire today. Totaled. I don't know why, fire started on left side of engine above the exhaust manifold.
Oh, shit.
Damn, that sucks man.
Any post fire pics? :mask:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 23, 2017, 05:53:20 PM
Fair enough. I don't actually open my hood very often. :lol:
Interesting. Are there any potential warning signs if you know what to look for, or do people just replace the starter before a certain mileage?
It's not a regular maintenance item, but some of the guys say 50,000 miles.
Sorry to hear. :(
Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 23, 2017, 05:57:08 PM
Damn, that sucks man.
Any post fire pics? :mask:
(https://s28.postimg.org/u32swhrnx/IMG_3009.jpg)
Oh fuck. Totaled for sure.
Sorry man. :cry:
That sucks....
Oh, and this happened like 15 minutes after I ordered new foglights. Luckily I got that canceled.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 06:09:05 PM
(https://s28.postimg.org/u32swhrnx/IMG_3009.jpg)
That is very sad.
I've always heard it's best never to open the hood if you think there's a fire. Because, yeah, that gives it a bunch of air and it'll flare up.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 23, 2017, 06:24:50 PM
I've always heard it's best never to open the hood if you think there's a fire. Because, yeah, that gives it a bunch of air and it'll flare up.
I thought it was just steam and there was a leaky rad hose or something.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 06:31:53 PM
I thought it was just steam and there was a leaky rad hose or something.
Fair enough. Fuckin sucks, man.
D:
I should probably buy a fire extinguisher
I just realized how relevant the title of this thread was. Heats up, indeed. :facepalm:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 23, 2017, 07:16:12 PM
I just realized how relevant the title of this thread was. Heats up, indeed. :facepalm:
Prophetic even.
Wow! Good thing you didn't build a complicated drawer system for it, eh?
Quote from: Rupert on January 23, 2017, 08:43:13 PM
Wow! Good thing you didn't build a complicated drawer system for it, eh?
Still in sketch phase right now...
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 08:59:46 PM
Still in sketch phase right now...
Might as well finish it
Would it be completely stupid to just buy another one?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 09:29:29 PM
Would it be completely stupid to just buy another one?
Yes.
No.
That gen LC is gorgeous. I wouldn't blame you at all for trying to get another one. I'm sure it feels like a much nicer vehicle than an equivalent Tahoe
Quote from: 68_427 on January 23, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
That gen LC is gorgeous. I wouldn't blame you at all for trying to get another one. I'm sure it feels like a much nicer vehicle than an equivalent Tahoe
What I'm having trouble with is: would I feel the same way after having it for say two years instead of a month?
Well what did you like about it? Why did you want one in the first place.
Because they're awesome, super reliable, and they never die.
...
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Well, this thread ended poorly.
Car caught fire today. Totaled. I don't know why, fire started on left side of engine above the exhaust manifold.
(https://m.popkey.co/fd66f1/edmbK.gif)
Quote from: Rupert on January 23, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
Because they're awesome, super reliable, and they never die.
...
You know. I can't really claim that right now. Clearly they die.
They are still super awesome.
Yeah, if I were you, I'd just get another. It's tough to find ones in good condition without a lot of rust for under $10k.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
These are conflicting messages.
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Also, wow that sucks ass.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 23, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Well, this thread ended poorly.
Car caught fire today. Totaled. I don't know why, fire started on left side of engine above the exhaust manifold.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way!! Sorry to hear!
That's not a fire, that's a FIRE!
Glad you're OK dude, hell yeah get another. Or a wrangler 4door (you know you want one).
At least a four door Wrangler probably wouldn't burn to the ground immediately, they're new enough.
Quote from: Rupert on January 24, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
At least a four door Wrangler probably wouldn't burn to the ground immediately, they're new enough.
You underestimate what a FiatChrysler vehicle is capable of.
Quote from: Rupert on January 24, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
At least a four door Wrangler probably wouldn't burn to the ground immediately, they're new enough.
I was actually talking to an owner of one tonight, and his opinion was that he wished his would burn.
That is usually my position as well, as Tave can tell you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch&v=3-TSgIQDGP8&t=15
Ain't nobody got time fo dat!
Goddamit, Soup, I didn't post anything about that Toyota originally, but it just had too goddamn many miles on it. Here's also a something else, fucking jap vehicles ain't as great as their reputation, and 200K plus is too many miles for any vehicle.
They have service departments for a reason.
OK, I'll shutup now.
^^ wtf
That race really heated up.
A lot.
It got hot.
Burning rubber.
much temperature.
wow.
ok, I'll stop now
Quote from: shp4man on January 24, 2017, 11:10:11 PM
Goddamit, Soup, I didn't post anything about that Toyota originally, but it just had too goddamn many miles on it. Here's also a something else, fucking jap vehicles ain't as great as their reputation, and 200K plus is too many miles for any vehicle.
They have service departments for a reason.
OK, I'll shutup now.
I've bought Fords with more mileage if it comes down to that.
This was a very well maintained and lightly used car, that it was a Toyota with a great reputation for longevity was only a minor consideration.
(http://i.imgur.com/8Q781OX.jpg)
Lol.
I'm gonna print that out and hang it on my god damned garage wall.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 25, 2017, 04:58:46 AM
I've bought Fords with more mileage if it comes down to that.
This was a very well maintained and lightly used car, that it was a Toyota with a great reputation for longevity was only a minor consideration.
Not sure I'd consider 16k miles per year "lightly used", though from photos it did appear like it was well maintained and cared for.
Quote from: MX793 on January 25, 2017, 09:44:14 AM
Not sure I'd consider 16k miles per year "lightly used", though from photos it did appear like it was well maintained and cared for.
Well, mileage was high, but everything indicated they were nothing more than commuter miles. No heavy towing, no off-roading, and very well maintained. That's what I meant.
I mean look, I know buying a high mileage vehicle is a bit of a roll of the dice, and it would be foolish not to expect certain things to wear out or break, but I check it out as much as possible and do some research, and I usually make out alright on these things.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 25, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
Well, mileage was high, but everything indicated they were nothing more than commuter miles. No heavy towing, no off-roading, and very well maintained. That's what I meant.
I mean look, I know buying a high mileage vehicle is a bit of a roll of the dice, and it would be foolish not to expect certain things to wear out or break, but I check it out as much as possible and do some research, and I usually make out alright on these things.
lol yeah, these guys are almost acting like an older car is a death sentence.
Some repairs are expected. Fires are not.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 25, 2017, 09:51:12 AM
lol yeah, these guys are almost acting like an older car is a death sentence.
Some repairs are expected. Fires are not.
This was clearly not even on the radar. I've owned mostly older cars all my life. I have a pretty good idea what to expect to the most part. I even saw the starter relay issue as a known problem before I bought it but didn't worry about it (even when the relay fails, fires like this are like 1:1000).
And I'm going to go right out and buy another older car: maybe even older.
Fucking Japs! :wtf:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 25, 2017, 09:55:02 AM
This was clearly not even on the radar. I've owned mostly older cars all my life. I have a pretty good idea what to expect to the most part. I even saw the starter relay issue as a known problem before I bought it but didn't worry about it (even when the relay fails, fires like this are like 1:1000).
And I'm going to go right out and buy another older car: maybe even older.
Yeah, I mean I guess it's nice to know that it's a known issue, but clearly it's not a common problem or these cars wouldn't be so well-liked.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 25, 2017, 09:55:02 AM
This was clearly not even on the radar. I've owned mostly older cars all my life. I have a pretty good idea what to expect to the most part. I even saw the starter relay issue as a known problem before I bought it but didn't worry about it (even when the relay fails, fires like this are like 1:1000).
And I'm going to go right out and buy another older car: maybe even older.
Do it man!!
I bought Odyssey with 168k miles, 2years ago. Approaching 198k now.
There's a silver 2002 in Chicago, and I have to be there next week anyways...
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 26, 2017, 07:51:09 PM
There's a silver 2002 in Chicago, and I have to be there next week anyways...
silver what?
How many miles? 03 was the facelift, right?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 26, 2017, 07:51:09 PM
There's a silver 2002 in Chicago, and I have to be there next week anyways...
It's not exactly a family car, but I say go for it.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/5962199853.html
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 26, 2017, 08:21:29 PM
It's not exactly a family car, but I say go for it.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/5962199853.html
Well damn.
Quote from: CALL_911 on January 26, 2017, 08:18:21 PM
How many miles? 03 was the facelift, right?
160k. I'm assuming that's in Shoppy's danger zone still, but what the hell?
Yes. Also when they went from a 4 speed to a 5 speed.
Insurance settlement will leave me about $40 in the black on the whole thing. Not a lot of profit for a lot of hassle. Probably a loss when I figure in the increased vodka/bourbon intake.
Link to the new potential?
4 speed transmission makes me sad. I don't know why, but every single 4 speed I drive just doesn't feel right. 5 is my absolute minimum.
Quote from: MrH on January 27, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
Link to the new potential?
4 speed transmission makes me sad. I don't know why, but every single 4 speed I drive just doesn't feel right. 5 is my absolute minimum.
Ehhh, I've dealt with three speeds just fine.
Bring a fire extinguisher.
Install a fire suppression system in the engine bay.
Quote from: MrH on January 27, 2017, 08:48:38 AM
Link to the new potential?
4 speed transmission makes me sad. I don't know why, but every single 4 speed I drive just doesn't feel right. 5 is my absolute minimum.
They don't feel quite as "off" in a torquey, V8 truck than in a smaller car.
Quote from: MX793 on January 27, 2017, 10:56:36 AM
They don't feel quite as "off" in a torquey, V8 truck than in a smaller car.
+1
Small car autos are the worst. In bigger motor-vehicles I almost don't care.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 26, 2017, 08:21:29 PM
It's not exactly a family car, but I say go for it.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/5962199853.html
I love these.
Quote from: MX793 on January 27, 2017, 10:56:36 AM
They don't feel quite as "off" in a torquey, V8 truck than in a smaller car.
Yeah, ex had a POS Saturn with a 4-speed. Most miserable road trip vehicle ever. No cruise, and going through the mountains of Tennessee, it didn't have the power to get up them to begin with. It'd sit bouncing between 2nd and 3rd and couldn't maintain speed.
Just saw the pics... holy shit that sucks! Better off with a Jeep (they only fail to start... not catch fire)
Ought to get one of these instead:
(http://kptv.images.worldnow.com/images/17243664_bg1.gif)
Hard to park.
Not invincible
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/77/25/1c/77251c6da01e534fe516201e9be2f46f.jpg)