I am thinking of purchasing a second car. This will probably be done next year. I decided to look into used entry level luxury sedans like, that Acura TL, Infiniti G35, BMW 3 Series, Audi A4...
What's the best price I can get?
I am shopping in CDN dollars (btw), and my budget is basically nothing exceeding 40 grand. *I noticed that many of the sedans I listed have high residual values which do not work to my advantage :banghead: I've never bought a used car so, I have this "fear" that the car may not hold up well later on. I want to keep the car for more than 3 years.
The 2007 Infiniti G35 looks pretty damn good, but I probably can't afford it. It's the interior improvement that makes the new G35 more desirable.
Any other suggestions? I'm open to suggestions on other vehicles (new or used)
My general criteria:
35 grand and under CDN!
Good handler
Fun to Drive
Quiet
Luxurious
Powerful
Interior Design and Quality must be good
.... that's all I can think off :huh:
I'd take an A4 out of that group, but I'm in love with Audi's styling/design. The 3 series and IS would be my second choices, but pretty distant. The TL is a nice looking car, but it doesn't do much for me.
At the risk of being drunk, Lexus IS300 5 speed.
Waitaminniit....
You've got an Accord, and you want to buy another sedan!?
Why not get something brilliant and impractical, like an MR-2 Spyder?
Quote from: thewizard16 on October 13, 2006, 09:51:18 PM
I'd take an A4 out of that group, but I'm in love with Audi's styling/design. The 3 series and IS would be my second choices, but pretty distant. The TL is a nice looking car, but it doesn't do much for me.
The A4 is quite nice! Love the interior, a pretty nice handler, and although it's tight, it's not CRAZY ASS tight like the IS. Just checked prices at Autotrader, it seems I can get a 04 A4 for 30 grand, not bad, not bad.
I probably can't consider the IS300, I actually like the car but, i'm quite tall and the IS300 is very uncomfortable me. It is quite cheap though.
I must admit I am increasingly leaning towards the Infiniti G35 :lol: The only downfall to it is the interior quality IMO.
Try an E46 325i. I think the 325i best embodied the E46.
But get an IS300 5 speed.
Quote from: Raza on October 13, 2006, 10:02:42 PM
Waitaminniit....
You've got an Accord, and you want to buy another sedan!?
Why not get something brilliant and impractical, like an MR-2 Spyder?
I wish I could!
But my family would odviously disagree :rolleyes:
I have to compromise and find something that's both practical and brilliant :ohyeah:
I actually want a VW GTI, it's practical in some ways :lol:
I love the E46 325i actually, I was told having a used BMW is a "
no-no" True? False? :huh: Sorry, new to this whole used car stuff!
Quote from: AKL on October 13, 2006, 10:09:33 PM
I wish I could!
But my family would odviously disagree :rolleyes:
I have to compromise and find something that's both practical and brilliant :ohyeah:
I actually want a VW GTI, it's practical in some ways :lol:
I love the E46 325i actually, I was told having a used BMW is a "no-no" True? False? :huh: Sorry, new to this whole used car stuff!
Well you
might be in for a wild ride with electricals with the 325i. That's why its a gamble to buy used cars right :ohyeah: :lol:
I've only bought 2 new cars for myself, and many used ones.? At this point, work in a 100k mile warranty into the purchase price.? No matter what brand or what your bias is, it takes the fear factor out of the used car buying process.? I've picked up 3 Expeditions over the years (including my current '06 with 20,000 miles).? Never gotten hurt.? Closest came when my '02 needed $3k of front end work.? All I paid was the $100 Ford ESP warranty deductible.? :rockon:
My vote would go for an A4 (surprise!) or a G35 Coupe - since this is a 2nd car, a big 2 door is still semi-practical, no?? Nothing beats the A4's interior, and I love the Audi driving feel (a lot more than the G35's I almost bought this year).? But the G35 is a worthy option.? I'm also tall (6'7") and have more room in the A4's driver seat than I did with the larger G35.
Manual or automatic?
Well, I know my MB's best, so I'll recommend a C230 (2.5 V6) or a C280 (3.0 V6) for you. Both are zippy and come with a 6-speed manual. Also, with the new C-Class just around the corner, expect them to be available at "dumping prices". ;)
Here, hope this helps (my C320 CDI review). :ohyeah:
Link: http://www.caranddriver.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=64826&forumID=21&search=1&searchstring=
(http://img142.echo.cx/img142/5290/ac320cdi015bq.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on October 14, 2006, 05:45:29 AM
Well, I know my MB's best, so I'll recommend a C230 (2.5 V6) or a C280 (3.0 V6) for you. Both are zippy and come with a 6-speed manual. Also, with the new C-Class just around the corner, expect them to be available at "dumping prices". ;)
Here, hope this helps (my C320 CDI review). :ohyeah:
Link: http://www.caranddriver.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=64826&forumID=21&search=1&searchstring=
(http://img142.echo.cx/img142/5290/ac320cdi015bq.jpg)
Our C280 only comes with an automatic.
Go for the E46 3er.
I'd get a 335i or a Saab 9-3.
Quote from: AKL on October 13, 2006, 10:09:33 PM
I wish I could!
But my family would odviously disagree :rolleyes:
I have to compromise and find something that's both practical and brilliant :ohyeah:
Why woudl they disagree if it's your second car? If you need to take the family anywhere, then you use the Accord, right? That's why second cars can BE the fun cars.. ;)
Quote from: saxonyron on October 14, 2006, 12:26:51 AM
I've only bought 2 new cars for myself, and many used ones. At this point, work in a 100k mile warranty into the purchase price. No matter what brand or what your bias is, it takes the fear factor out of the used car buying process. I've picked up 3 Expeditions over the years (including my current '06 with 20,000 miles). Never gotten hurt. Closest came when my '02 needed $3k of front end work. All I paid was the $100 Ford ESP warranty deductible. :rockon:
My vote would go for an A4 (surprise!) or a G35 Coupe - since this is a 2nd car, a big 2 door is still semi-practical, no? Nothing beats the A4's interior, and I love the Audi driving feel (a lot more than the G35's I almost bought this year). But the G35 is a worthy option. I'm also tall (6'7") and have more room in the A4's driver seat than I did with the larger G35.
Does that make you the tree of Carspin? :lol:
Get a GTI, three or five door; they're incredibly practical.
Quote from: MX793 on October 14, 2006, 09:31:57 AM
Our C280 only comes with an automatic.
Damn. Another reason to move to Europe. :devil:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 11:13:32 AM
Does that make you the tree of Carspin? :lol:
:lol:
Possibly, but there are a few other tall guys out there, no?
Quote from: ifcar on October 14, 2006, 04:18:21 AM
Manual or automatic?
I'm pushing manual :praise:
But my GF, brother and parents are against that :banghead:- at least 1 out of the 3 know how to drive manual, the rest can drive the Accord :ohyeah: My dad hasn't driven manual in a long time actually. When we were servicing our Accord, he wanted to test drive a Civic manual. 20 years without driving manual, he still got it! He drove like he drives manual everyday.
I think I'm leaning more towards the E46 3 series, it's a great performer. I felt comfortable in it, ample power, and best of all it's fun to drive!
Wimmer: The C-Class is great vehicle, but I prefer the 3 series :devil:
I may start looking around soon just to get a feel of the prices.
The GTI is a good consideration too actually, I'll look into it. It's very practical, and a awesome driving car.
I'm hoping by 2007 I can get a either a E46 3er, or (whatever else) at 30-ish-35 grand and under- and hopefully work in a warranty!
Thanks for all the advice, can't wait to shop for a new (or used) car!
If you want a GTI, I say get that!
But, of the cars you're looking at I think my favorites would be the 325i or A4. I had a 2005 A4 1.8T Quattro with sport package while living in Montreal. The AWD was handy for the winters up there. I almost got a 325i at the time, but went with an A4 at the last second and I never regretted it.
That being said, I don't think my current car was a step down in the least. I miss the AWD, but otherwise I think the GTI does most things better. It has just as much room (as far as I can tell), the seats are fantastic (though I was very happy with the A4...I drove from Montreal to South Jersey several times in that car and never got sore), more powerful engine, better fuel economy, and better handling (IMHO).
In the end though you should really just test drive them all and buy the one that suits you the best. All the cars you are looking at are pretty great cars.
Quote from: saxonyron on October 14, 2006, 02:21:47 PM
:lol:
Possibly, but there are a few other tall guys out there, no??
I think Car Zeus said the other day that he's 6'7," or something like that.
I wish I were a little taller.? I'm average height (5'11") but I work with a bunch of taller guys, and I feel like a shrimp.
On topic, I like Ron's original suggestion of getting a warranty.? With the type of car you're looking at, repairs outside of warranty can be very expensive.
I'm partial to the A4 myself.? If I were getting a second car, that would be right at the top of my list.? If you're into something that leans sportier, the IS300 drives great, though it has a bit of a "high-end ricer" image, which is unfortunate.? The 3-series is fine, also.
I like the Saab 9-3, but it's not up there with the others in terms of drive quality, IMO.? I also don't think it's as solid, and Saabs can be quite finnicky in terms of reliability.? It wouldn't be my first choice, though you could pick one up more inexpensively than the other options.
Another one to consider, if you like the looks, is the Mercedes C-Class.
I suggest you just start driving a few of them, to get a feel.? Check out edmunds.com for reasonable price ranges, and go with your gut.? I love car shopping and buying.? I only like shopping for 3 things -- cars, houses, and tools.? Enjoy.
BTW, AKL, welcome. I don't believe we've spoken before.
Also, try a WRX. They're fantastic fun, quick, and if you get a Limited model, you can get entry-luxury features like leather, heated seats, and auto-dimming mirrors. I'd take one over a 3 series. Plus, AWD has to be a bonus in the Great White North, yeah?
The MazdaSpeed6 obviously.
But is it cheap in Canada? IF you could get it, it's an awesome car. It's got 4wd and is lots o' fun apparantly.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 03:50:33 PM
I think Car Zeus said the other day that he's 6'7," or something like that.
I wish I were a little taller. I'm average height (5'11") but I work with a bunch of taller guys, and I feel like a shrimp.
You damn white guys :P I feel like a dwarf whenever I'm with my white friends because I'm only 5'8
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 04:33:24 PM
You damn white guys :P I feel like a dwarf whenever I'm with my white friends because I'm only 5'8
:lol: I see you're from Toronto. Are you an Asian dude?
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 04:37:46 PM
:lol: I see you're from Toronto. Are you an Asian dude?
Yup korean. And the thing that makes me feel short the most is that one of my good friends is white (the only white guy friend I have in the school) and he plays like provincial volleyball and he's almost 6'4 :banghead:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 04:44:47 PM
Yup korean. And the thing that makes me feel short the most is that one of my good friends is white (the only white guy friend I have in the school) and he plays like provincial volleyball and he's almost 6'4 :banghead:
Don't worry about it, man. Just keep telling yourself that there's a part of your body other than your legs that is longer than his.... :lol:
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 04:47:38 PM
Don't worry about it, man. Just keep telling yourself that there's a part of your body other than your legs that is longer than his.... :lol:
:lol: I just outsmart him in Math and occasionally in comp. engineering class :praise: What an asian thing to do now that i think about it :lol:
Quote from: SJ_GTI on October 14, 2006, 03:10:50 PM
If you want a GTI, I say get that!
But, of the cars you're looking at I think my favorites would be the 325i or A4. I had a 2005 A4 1.8T Quattro with sport package while living in Montreal. The AWD was handy for the winters up there. I almost got a 325i at the time, but went with an A4 at the last second and I never regretted it.
That being said, I don't think my current car was a step down in the least. I miss the AWD, but otherwise I think the GTI does most things better. It has just as much room (as far as I can tell), the seats are fantastic (though I was very happy with the A4...I drove from Montreal to South Jersey several times in that car and never got sore), more powerful engine, better fuel economy, and better handling (IMHO).
In the end though you should really just test drive them all and buy the one that suits you the best. All the cars you are looking at are pretty great cars.
Yes, the GTI is a great consideration. Oh you lived in Montreal before I see? The drivers there are CRAZY! I admit I'm an aggressive driver at times, but the drivers there are always cutting eachother! What scared me actually was my Best Western valet driver. I saw him reverse my fucking Accord down a road, honking the drivers to "pass him". My heart literally stopped beating.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 03:50:33 PM
I think Car Zeus said the other day that he's 6'7," or something like that.
I wish I were a little taller. I'm average height (5'11") but I work with a bunch of taller guys, and I feel like a shrimp.
On topic, I like Ron's original suggestion of getting a warranty. With the type of car you're looking at, repairs outside of warranty can be very expensive.
I'm partial to the A4 myself. If I were getting a second car, that would be right at the top of my list. If you're into something that leans sportier, the IS300 drives great, though it has a bit of a "high-end ricer" image, which is unfortunate. The 3-series is fine, also.
I like the Saab 9-3, but it's not up there with the others in terms of drive quality, IMO. I also don't think it's as solid, and Saabs can be quite finnicky in terms of reliability. It wouldn't be my first choice, though you could pick one up more inexpensively than the other options.
Another one to consider, if you like the looks, is the Mercedes C-Class.
I suggest you just start driving a few of them, to get a feel. Check out edmunds.com for reasonable price ranges, and go with your gut. I love car shopping and buying. I only like shopping for 3 things -- cars, houses, and tools. Enjoy.
BTW, AKL, welcome. I don't believe we've spoken before.
I do believe we've spoken before, Hello!
The A4 is a fine car, what model do you suggest I "get": 1.8T Quattro?
Also, I noticed that Audi seems to have this "worst reliability" thing hovering over it.
Having a warranty with it will help that fear disappear right? :ohyeah:
Quote from: Raghavan on October 14, 2006, 04:09:23 PM
The MazdaSpeed6 obviously.
But is it cheap in Canada? IF you could get it, it's an awesome car. It's got 4wd and is lots o' fun apparantly.
Not so cheap in Canada, it ranges from 35-41 Grand. I'd rather just opt up to a Infiniti G35, if I'm approaching 40 grand. I'll still check it out, I may get a good discount on it! You never know....
P.S. Also, I'm asian and from Toronto :lol: But i'm quite tall around 6'1", maybe even taller. I've never measured my height in a while.
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 04:48:39 PM
:lol: I just outsmart him in Math and occasionally in comp. engineering class :praise: What an asian thing to do now that i think about it :lol:
Have you ever seen "Average Asian" on comedy central? It's a spoof on popular stereotypes about Asians. There's this Asian kid whom everybody just assumes will be supernaturally smart in things like math. Of course, they also assume that he'll be a horrible driver. The skit shows how scared to death they are when he's just driving normally.
How's your driving, man? :lol: :cheers:
Quote from: AKL on October 14, 2006, 05:11:02 PM
I do believe we've spoken before, Hello!
The A4 is a fine car, what model do you suggest I "get": 1.8T Quattro?
Also, I noticed that Audi seems to have this "worst reliability" thing hovering over it.
Having a warranty with it will help that fear disappear right?? :ohyeah:
If I got the A4, I'd get the bigger engine.? I have a lead foot, and like to feel some power and speed when I nail the accelerator.? No sense in having a luxury car if that feeling is missing, IMO.
I don't think a warranty is a 100% solution for reliability problems.? It's still a major PITA to have to take a car in for repairs regularly.
Get some more information about reliability.? I hadn't been aware that there were serious problems with Audi these days.? Most brands have a certain achilles heel.? For BMW, it's electrical systems.? Both my BMWs have had problems with this, though it was never anything major.? Other than that, I had no problems whatsoever with either of my BMWs.
In any case, whether we've spoken before or not, it's great to have you aboard. Any lover of luxury sport cars is a friend of mine... :ohyeah:
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 05:19:32 PM
Have you ever seen "Average Asian" on comedy central? It's a spoof on popular stereotypes about Asians. There's this Asian kid whom everybody just assumes will be supernaturally smart in things like math. Of course, they also assume that he'll be a horrible driver. The skit shows how scared to death they are when he's just driving normally.
How's your driving, man? :lol: :cheers:
My driving is fine. Better than those steoreotypcal asians by a long shot. :lol:
My Passat has the newer 1.8T, with 170bhp. It's a peppy engine, and if my car were a stick, I can tell you I wouldn't be getting rid of it.
The 1.8T has one of the strongest aftermarket followings, if you want to do minor things to get more power. I think it's a better bet, just like the 2.0T probably better than the 3.2L V6.
Meh, I was pretty happy with the power from the 1.8T...but I did have a manual.
I had some automatic FWD versions as loaners, and they felt more sluggish. AWD and automatic is probably not a good idea with the 1.8T.
If you are getting an automatic, i would definitely go back to suggesting a GTI...or maybe a Jetta 2.0T (if you prefer a sedan). They come with VW/Audi's DSG transmission. Its a dual-clutch sequential manual transmission. Probably the most technologically impressive transmission in any maintream car (and nicer than the transmissions found on my exotics), and it works smoothly and seamlesses in an everyday commuter. Its really fantastic technology that adds to the driving experience.
I also should reccomend the TSX if you are looking at this class. My mother has a 2004 TSX (automatic with nav) and its a really nice entry-level luxury car. Its not as nice as an A4 or 3er, but its nice enough to be worth consideraion I think. Obviously I didn't buy one myself, but its more due to different personal taste rather than not liking the car.
Clutch on those things are a pain in the ass. I'd definitely take a GLI over one.
Quote from: Raza on October 14, 2006, 05:35:12 PM
Clutch on those things are a pain in the ass.? I'd definitely take a GLI over one.
So would I, but, everyone has different tastes. ;)
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 05:26:31 PM
My driving is fine. Better than those steoreotypcal asians by a long shot.? :lol:
:lol:
Do you like to go fast?
My brother had a friend whose dad was from Taiwan, and that guy (the dad) used to drive at literally 5 mph on the streets around our house. Un-f-ing-believable.... :lol:
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 05:46:34 PM
:lol:
Do you like to go fast?
My brother had a friend whose dad was from Taiwan, and that guy (the dad) used to drive at literally 5 mph on the streets around our house. Un-f-ing-believable.... :lol:
Yes I like to go fast :lol: But the explorer doesn't really let me - I've hit the limiter at 98mph so that's pretty much as fast as I've driven :banghead:
Today I did something I know I shouldn't have done and almost regret doing. Just consider it one of those crazy things teens do once. Went on a grass field and slid around everywhere on the field. :banghead:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 06:26:30 PM
Today I did something I know I shouldn't have done and almost regret doing. Just consider it one of those crazy things teens do once. Went on a grass field and slid around everywhere on the field. :banghead:
Did that in a loaner C230K sportscoupe once (more like several times). Almost got stuck.
Quote from: Raza on October 14, 2006, 06:27:40 PM
Did that in a loaner C230K sportscoupe once (more like several times). Almost got stuck.
I'll be passing by that field and hopefully I won't see any kids trying to play soccer around the tire marks (which are literally everywhere). I think I was 75% there of rolling the damn thing when I lost control of it trying to get oversteer on the gravel track shifting from side to side and I spun out at one point.
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 06:30:29 PM
I'll be passing by that field and hopefully I won't see any kids trying to play soccer around the tire marks (which are literally everywhere). I think I was 75% there of rolling the damn thing when I lost control of it trying to get oversteer on the gravel track shifting from side to side and I spun out at one point.
I've also turned the C230 into a small aircraft.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on October 14, 2006, 05:39:19 PM
So would I, but, everyone has different tastes. ;)
I know, some people don't like whiskey...the loons.
Quote from: Raza on October 14, 2006, 07:01:12 PM
I've also turned the C230 into a small aircraft.
Well this is our car, not a loaner so I think I'll save myself from doing that
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 07:58:19 PM
Well this is our car, not a loaner so I think I'll save myself from doing that
You'd need more speed and a steeper grade...but I think I can do it. I'll be right there.
Quote from: Raza on October 14, 2006, 08:01:03 PM
You'd need more speed and a steeper grade...but I think I can do it. I'll be right there.
Well getting to the field there is a rather steep hill (almost 45 degrees) and its about 20 ft so I could try to jump it but there isn't much room on top.
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 06:26:30 PM
Today I did something I know I shouldn't have done and almost regret doing. Just consider it one of those crazy things teens do once. Went on a grass field and slid around everywhere on the field.? :banghead:
Sounds fun, actually. Though tearing up a field was not such a great thing to do. I thought Asians were supposed to be model citizens.... :lol:
I still like to do donuts when there's snow or ice.
My best time with donuts relatively recently was a few years ago.? It had snowed and thawed over the weekend, and then refrozen.? The parking lot where I parked my car at the train station was a flawless sheet of ice, because it wasn't used over the weekend during the thaw and refreezing.
I got home late that Monday night, and almost all the other cars were gone.? The temptation was just too great to resist, and I started doing wild donuts.? It was a lot of fun, and really got the adrenaline flowing.
I know a guy who got busted doing this and was given a ticket for reckless driving, and lost his license for 6 months.? (I think he probably could have avoided that if he'd worked the court system skillfully).
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 08:20:38 PM
Sounds fun, actually.
I still like to do donuts when there's snow or ice.
My best time with donuts relatively recently was a few years ago. It had snowed and thawed over the weekend, and then refrozen. The parking lot where I parked my car at the train station was a flawless sheet of ice, because it wasn't used over the weekend during the thaw and refreezing.
I got home late that Monday night, and almost all the other cars were gone. The temptation was just too great to resist, and I started doing wild donuts. It was a lot of fun, and really got the adrenaline flowing.
I know a guy who got busted doing this and was given a ticket for reckless driving, and lost his license for 6 months. (I think he probably could have avoided that if he'd worked the court system skillfully).
Well I did it on a public field with soccer nets and a track around it and ruined the grass. I think I might have been arrested if a cop car came by. But there would be no way a cop would see me unless he also decided to come down to the field and do the same lol
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 08:23:55 PM
Well I did it on a public field with soccer nets and a track around it and ruined the grass. I think I might have been arrested if a cop car came by. But there would be no way a cop would see me unless he also decided to come down to the field and do the same lol
Hah, there is always that thrill you get when doing that you know could lead to you getting arrested. A combination of exhileration, fear, adrenaline pumping, etc.
The desire to do those things seem to be part of human nature, even when you know they're wrong, and even when you know that doing them is not worth the possible consequences.
I can't say I approve of damaging something that is there for people to use. It's wrong. But I can understand where the urge to do it comes from, since I have experienced these things myself when I was younger.
Most of my life is illegal. The underage drinking, the quaaludes, the coke, the fun...
Quote from: Raza on October 14, 2006, 08:43:48 PM
Most of my life is illegal.? The underage drinking, the quaaludes, the coke, the fun...
What fun?
Quote from: Raza on October 14, 2006, 08:43:48 PM
Most of my life is illegal. The underage drinking, the quaaludes, the coke, the fun...
You do not do coke. ;)
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 08:33:39 PM
Hah, there is always that thrill you get when doing that you know could lead to you getting arrested. A combination of exhileration, fear, adrenaline pumping, etc.
The desire to do those things seem to be part of human nature, even when you know they're wrong, and even when you know that doing them is not worth the possible consequences.
I can't say I approve of damaging something that is there for people to use. It's wrong. But I can understand where the urge to do it comes from, since I have experienced these things myself when I was younger.
Well it always seems what's fun is wrong and what's wrong is fun :lol:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 09:28:41 PM
Well it always seems what's fun is wrong and what's wrong is fun :lol:
Yes, that is often the case.
Life is one big test. Can we resist the short-term allure of fun things that turn out to be wrong? Things that are wrong eventually come back to haunt us, if they become a way of life.
Most things in life can either be friend or foe. Think of fire and water. When controlled, fire heats our homes, cooks our food, and runs our car engines. When not controlled, it causes incredible destruction. Water is indispensible when uncontrolled. Uncontrolled, it brings untold misery.
Sex is like that too. As are most of the fun things in life.
It's a lot of fun to do illegal things. I know that well. Believe me. But it has to be controlled. :cheers:
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 09:35:45 PM
Yes, that is often the case.
Life is one big test. Can we resist the short-term allure of fun things that turn out to be wrong? Things that are wrong eventually come back to haunt us, if they become a way of life.
Most things in life can either be friend or foe. Think of fire and water. When controlled, fire heats our homes, cooks our food, and runs our car engines. When not controlled, it causes incredible destruction. Water is indispensible when uncontrolled. Uncontrolled, it brings untold misery.
Sex is like that too. As are most of the fun things in life.
It's a lot of fun to do illegal things. I know that well. Believe me. But it has to be controlled. :cheers:
Well you're giving one heck of a life lesson. In the same sentence you tell me "It's a lot of fun to do illegal things. I know that well. Believe me." followed by "But it has to be controlled." :lol:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 09:42:47 PM
Well you're giving one heck of a life lesson. In the same sentence you tell me "It's a lot of fun to do illegal things.? I know that well.? Believe me." followed by "But it has to be controlled." :lol:
Well, I try. :lol:
The funny thing is, not only do I not regret anything illegal that I did, but I wish I did more of those things. As long as they were minor enough that I didn't get caught, or get into serious trouble.
It really is all about control. I've always enjoyed breaking rules, and I still do. I used to drive through tolls without paying, even if I had the money in my pocket. Just for a cheap thrill. Sometimes, I got together with some friends, and we used to drive around blowing through red lights and stop signs, going the wrong way up one-way streets, and of course, continuous and constant speeding.
But even with all this, there was a line I wouldn't cross. I still love to speed under the right circumstances, but there's still a line there that I won't cross.
Control, man. Control these things; don't allow them to control you. That's the secret.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 09:48:56 PM
Well, I try. :lol:
The funny thing is, not only do I not regret anything illegal that I did, but I wish I did more of those things. As long as they were minor enough that I didn't get caught, or get into serious trouble.
It really is all about control. I've always enjoyed breaking rules, and I still do. I used to drive through tolls without paying, even if I had the money in my pocket. Just for a cheap thrill. Sometimes, I got together with some friends, and we used to drive around blowing through red lights and stop signs, going the wrong way up one-way streets, and of course, continuous and constant speeding.
But even with all this, there was a line I wouldn't cross. I still love to speed under the right circumstances, but there's still a line there that I won't cross.
Control, man. Control these things; don't allow them to control you. That's the secret.
I think in terms of speeding, it's how many people are around you. Today I was on a major street (60 km/h) and the road was completely empty so I hit 140km/h. I think that's much safer than weaving through traffic at 70-80km/h during busy times.
I think the explorer's limiter is a good thing for me. I've hit the limiter at 98mph on highway at night but I know I would go as fast as the car will if the limiter wasn't there. (although I'm not sure if the explorer will even hit 110).
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 09:56:02 PM
I think the explorer's limiter is a good thing for me. I've hit the limiter at 98mph on highway at night but I know I would go as fast as the car will if the limiter wasn't there. (although I'm not sure if the explorer will even hit 110).
Those are not good cars to go too fast in, with the rollover danger.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 09:58:25 PM
Those are not good cars to go too fast in, with the rollover danger.
Well I only go fast in straight lines (usually). I felt it almost wanting to start to tip over today while tossing it around the field
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
Well I only go fast in straight lines (usually). I felt it almost wanting to start to tip over today while tossing it around the field
I bet you enjoyed that feeling.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 10:13:47 PM
I bet you enjoyed that feeling.
Not really. Because that would have marked the end of my driving until I get out of the house after highchool.
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 10:19:11 PM
Not really. Because that would have marked the end of my driving until I get out of the house after highchool.
So would getting busted for ripping up the field, probably. But you enjoyed that.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 10:22:10 PM
So would getting busted for ripping up the field, probably. But you enjoyed that.
Yeah i did. :lol: I didn't want to say this online because who the hell knows how somebody might find this post and track it back to me, but I actually did that on our school field. Time to go to school on monday and see what happened :lol:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 10:41:00 PM
Yeah i did. :lol: I didn't want to say this online because who the hell knows how somebody might find this post and track it back to me, but I actually did that on our school field. Time to go to school on monday and see what happened :lol:
Have you been getting into any other trouble at school?
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 10:41:54 PM
Have you been getting into any other trouble at school?
Nah I'm a good kid. :lol:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 10:54:44 PM
Nah I'm a good kid.? :lol:
Not any more you're not.... :lol:
How bad was the damage to the field?
That type of thing gets done around here sometimes too.? I live right near a high school, and it does happen over there every so often.
I was always more interested in breaking into the school when it was closed, and making some type of huge mess.? :devil:? I never did it, though, and I'm glad I didn't.? :praise:
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 10:57:01 PM
Not any more you're not.... :lol:
How bad was the damage to the field?
That type of thing gets done around here sometimes too. I live right near a high school, and it does happen over there every so often.
I was always more interested in breaking into the school when it was closed, and making some type of huge mess. :devil: I never did it, though, and I'm glad I didn't. :praise:
Umm it's actually not that bad. Obviously nowhere good enough to play soccer or field hockey (our 2 outdoor sports teams at the moment). I would imagine they would have to redo the grass when I completely ruined the ground by sliding around and drifting in a 4000+lb SUV :lol:
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 11:03:00 PM
Umm it's actually not that bad. Obviously nowhere good enough to play soccer or field hockey (our 2 outdoor sports teams at the moment). I would imagine they would have to redo the grass when I completely ruined the ground by sliding around and drifting in a 4000+lb SUV :lol:
You really ought to get an ass-kicking for that, man. You really do deserve it. :devil:
Where do you think the teams are going to play?
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 11:09:40 PM
You really ought to get an ass-kicking for that, man. You really do deserve it. :devil:
Where do you think the teams are going to play?
Good question. I have no fucking idea. I'm not on either team so .. :huh: :lol: And the field should be fine for next semester when ultimate season begins and I can actually do something active at school :lol:
Dude if you fucked up a football field and any player found out. Ohh the asswhooping would be delivered a thousand times over. If we had to play on a fucked up field and risk tearing a ligament or muscle your ass would be grass.
Keep that shit secret and pray there arent security cameras.
Quote from: jadewolf123 on October 14, 2006, 11:11:35 PM
Dude if you fucked up a football field and any player found out. Ohh the asswhooping would be delivered a thousand times over. If we had to play on a fucked up field and risk tearing a ligament or muscle your ass would be grass.
Keep that shit secret and pray there arent security cameras.
No security cameras around our school. Too much of a goodie goodie school for that. No football team because we dont have enough white guys in the whole school even to have a starting line up. Like even if they all wanted to play, there wouldn't be enough people for a starting lineup. Actually maybe there will be but I know for sure there wouldn't be enough for a team. Same reason we dont have a hockey team.
Dont trash your own schools field, trash your rivals ;)
Damn I just talked to a guy on our school soccer team and they have 1 game left and its an away game. DAMN :lol:
Quote from: JYoDeR240 on October 14, 2006, 11:14:48 PM
Dont trash your own schools field, trash your rivals ;)
Oh man there was shit to be had for that. A rival school fucked up our turf by pouring acid an bleach and toasting our grass to spell out their schools name. Good thing we installed a security system just in case since we had just put in a new 100k field resurface. Those kids were totally fucked and had to pay the entire amount to fix the field, around 15k in total.
Quote from: jadewolf123 on October 14, 2006, 11:19:49 PM
Oh man there was shit to be had for that. A rival school fucked up our turf by pouring acid an bleach and toasting our grass to spell out their schools name. Good thing we installed a security system just in case since we had just put in a new 100k field resurface. Those kids were totally fucked and had to pay the entire amount to fix the field, around 15k in total.
:mask: :mask: Good investment on the system
Quote from: jadewolf123 on October 14, 2006, 11:19:49 PM
Oh man there was shit to be had for that. A rival school fucked up our turf by pouring acid an bleach and toasting our grass to spell out their schools name. Good thing we installed a security system just in case since we had just put in a new 100k field resurface. Those kids were totally fucked and had to pay the entire amount to fix the field, around 15k in total.
Good. That's a lot better than the taxpayers paying to fix it. Hearing that restores some of my faith in our system.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 14, 2006, 11:29:51 PM
Good. That's a lot better than the taxpayers paying to fix it. Hearing that restores some of my faith in our system.
Oh those fuckers payed, and payed hard. We all went and TPed their houses, paintballed the shit out of them when they tried to leave their house. One of the dudes on our football team even screwed one of the guys girlfirend. :lol: Its not like they directly payed though, their parents just sprung the cash. They had to learn that there are non monetary consequences to fucking with Hisdale Central.
Quote from: jadewolf123 on October 14, 2006, 11:37:05 PM
Oh those fuckers payed, and payed hard. We all went and TPed their houses, paintballed the shit out of them when they tried to leave their house. One of the dudes on our football team even screwed one of the guys girlfirend. :lol: Its not like they directly payed though, their parents just sprung the cash. They had to learn that there are non monetary consequences to fucking with Hisdale Central.
:lol: I can't say I feel sorry for them.
Bunch of hooligans on this forum!
Quote from: SJ_GTI on October 15, 2006, 06:41:29 AM
Bunch of hooligans on this forum!
:praise: :ohyeah:
Quote from: M_power on October 15, 2006, 01:49:23 PM
:praise: :ohyeah:
M_Power, what would your parents do if they found out about your field vandalism?
Quote from: dazzleman on October 15, 2006, 02:27:24 PM
M_Power, what would your parents do if they found out about your field vandalism?
Lets see...they would never trust me with anything, I wouldn't be allowed to drive anymore, etc etc. I guess
Quote from: M_power on October 15, 2006, 02:45:11 PM
Lets see...they would never trust me with anything, I wouldn't be allowed to drive anymore, etc etc. I guess
It's fun to take big risks. Exhilerating. I loved to lead a 'double life' as a teenager too. Make the parents think you're a little angel, and then go out and do some bad things. Most kids like that. I sure did. :praise:
Quote from: dazzleman on October 15, 2006, 06:32:34 PM
It's fun to take big risks. Exhilerating. I loved to lead a 'double life' as a teenager too. Make the parents think you're a little angel, and then go out and do some bad things. Most kids like that. I sure did. :praise:
I love taking risks. I've always had a thing for gambling as well (but I know it's retarded to get hooked on it so I dont). I take risks but the key thing is you gotta know when and when not to
Quote from: M_power on October 15, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
I love taking risks. I've always had a thing for gambling as well (but I know it's retarded to get hooked on it so I dont). I take risks but the key thing is you gotta know when and when not to
Definitely. I never did the gambling thing much. I suck at it, so it's not so much a risk for me, as a sure way to lose money. Certainty is boring.
Gambling is not really my thing either, eventually you'll end up losing and quitting (and thus ending with a loss rather than a profit) because, let's face it, nobody quits while they're up.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on October 15, 2006, 07:07:29 PM
Gambling is not really my thing either, eventually you'll end up losing and quitting (and thus ending with a loss rather than a profit) because, let's face it, nobody quits while they're up.
See I disagree, I play poker a lot and have made plenty of money. I take 200-300 dollars at the beginning of the year and set it aside as lost money. Then I play 25 dollar poker with my friends and so far this year I'm up to over 600 dollars. Even if I lose it all, hell thats cheap fun, literally hours spent with my buddies and whoever wins always buys the beer for the next time. Its a lot of fun and if you can stretch it out it can be well worth it.
But you're good at poker :thumbsup:
It means that if you consistantly make money, everybody else is consistantly losing money, and I would undoubtedly be that guy losing the money. Therefore, it's not worth it.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on October 15, 2006, 08:43:33 PM
It means that if you consistantly make money, everybody else is consistantly losing money, and I would undoubtedly be that guy losing the money. Therefore, it's not worth it.
Its just that the guys I play with arent that good. Casinos are the same way, if you play in less than 5 dollar blind games the people are all fucking terrible, who saw poker on TV and want to play. Its not worth real good players time to clean them out, so thats why I'm there. Too bad theres no casinos around here. We had to road trip up to Canada this summer to play since we arent 21.
Poker isn't much of my thing. Blackjack
I'm good at poker mainly because I don't take unneccesary risks and I have a knack for knowing when others are bluffing.
People that don't wear sunglasses get fucked.
Quote from: dazzleman on October 15, 2006, 07:02:46 PM
Definitely.? I never did the gambling thing much.? I suck at it, so it's not so much a risk for me, as a sure way to lose money.? Certainty is boring.
I declare David the forum dad. :lol:
Quote from: jadewolf123 on October 14, 2006, 11:37:05 PM
Oh those fuckers payed, and payed hard. We all went and TPed their houses, paintballed the shit out of them when they tried to leave their house. One of the dudes on our football team even screwed one of the guys girlfirend. :lol: Its not like they directly payed though, their parents just sprung the cash. They had to learn that there are non monetary consequences to fucking with Hisdale Central.
South kids? :lol:
I'm with Dazzle, i suck at gambling so for me its just spending money to have some fun.
Quote from: 850CSi on October 15, 2006, 09:16:05 PM
South kids? :lol:
Downers North, bunch of cock knocking wankers.
Quote from: M_power on October 14, 2006, 09:56:02 PM
I think the explorer's limiter is a good thing for me. I've hit the limiter at 98mph on highway at night but I know I would go as fast as the car will if the limiter wasn't there. (although I'm not sure if the explorer will even hit 110).
Chevy Suburbans are also limited to 98.
What year is your explorer? I have personally witnessed a buried needle on an Expedition (from very early 00 I think), did something happen to the governor on that one?
Quote from: jakemiller on October 16, 2006, 03:00:40 PM
You should just forget all of those, and get a real car, the Infiniti G35.
Or, I can always get what I desire like the E46 3 series, GTI, or A4, and not blow $30,000 based on someone who clearly loves Infiniti over everything.
But it's a nice suggestion.
If I were buying a new car, I'd possibly buy the new G35. I love the new G35. Although the old G35 is great, the interior is hard to get over.
Quote from: J86 on October 15, 2006, 10:41:13 PM
Chevy Suburbans are also limited to 98.
What year is your explorer? I have personally witnessed a buried needle on an Expedition (from very early 00 I think), did something happen to the governor on that one?
It's a 03. I'm assuming the governor was removed on that?
You should count yourself lucky Iam not playing on that table. Otherwise you cant beat the bluff master Kayani_1 in poker :rockon:
Quote from: jadewolf123 on October 15, 2006, 08:27:08 PM
See I disagree, I play poker a lot and have made plenty of money. I take 200-300 dollars at the beginning of the year and set it aside as lost money. Then I play 25 dollar poker with my friends and so far this year I'm up to over 600 dollars. Even if I lose it all, hell thats cheap fun, literally hours spent with my buddies and whoever wins always buys the beer for the next time. Its a lot of fun and if you can stretch it out it can be well worth it.
Get an E46 325i or 330i.
I had a '00 328Ci 6SPD. Drove it for 80K miles. That car was just wonderful.
Of the other cars on your list, I have only driven a FWD 1.8T A4. IMHO it has nothing on the 3. The interior might be nicer (though I prefer the 3 in that respect too). The driving experience.... no comparison. Maybe a quattro drives a lot better. I wouldn't know.