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r0tor

#90
June 06, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
There is a significant difference in fun between driving in the snow for the Hell of it and driving to work and getting there on time
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Eye of the Tiger

#91
June 06, 2011, 08:18:19 PM
Work can't expect me to be on time in a blizzard. Fuck that noise.
2024 Mitsubishi Mirage ES

The Pirate

#92
June 06, 2011, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: r0tor on June 06, 2011, 06:58:57 PM
Yea...6+ inches of snow when your trying to get to work before the plow trucks have done their job sucks...

Well, unless you have a Jeep Audi and then you just sit back and relax

Fixed for ya.  :praise:
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Quote from: omicron on July 10, 2007, 10:58:12 PM
After you wake up with the sun at 6am on someone's floor, coughing up cigarette butts and tasting like warm beer, you may well change your opinion on this matter.

Raza

#93
June 07, 2011, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: r0tor on June 06, 2011, 08:14:34 PM
There is a significant difference in fun between driving in the snow for the Hell of it and driving to work and getting there on time

I can generally make it, but I say fuck it and work from home.  Considering all the idiots out there in SUVs who think they're invincible, my job just isn't worth my life. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Eye of the Tiger

#94
June 07, 2011, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: Raza  link=topic=24971.msg1529821#msg1529821 date=1307497073
I can generally make it, but I say fuck it and work from home.  Considering all the idiots out there in SUVs who think they're invincible, my job just isn't worth my life. 

If you get an SUV, you can be invincible, too. Get a Hummer and be the most invincible one.
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280Z Turbo

#95
June 07, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 07, 2011, 07:50:32 PM
If you get an SUV, you can be invincible, too. Get a Hummer and be the most invincible one.

I would recommend investing in a killdozer. Any muffler shop should be able to build one.

Eye of the Tiger

#96
June 08, 2011, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 07, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
I would recommend investing in a killdozer. Any muffler shop should be able to build one.

Most muffler shops can't even weld tubes together properly. A killdozer is a project best undertaken alone. Raza would have done that a long time ago if he wasn't afraid of getting his hands dirty.
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hounddog

#97
June 08, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: MX793 on June 06, 2011, 05:36:43 PM
A little bit of snow is fun to drive in.  When it's above the front splitter and you need to get somewhere, it's a bit less fun.
Which is why 4x4 diesel is my choice in new vehicle purchase.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.  If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln

"Freedom and not servitude is the cure of anarchy; as religion, and not atheism, is the true remedy of superstition."
~Edmund Burke

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hounddog

#98
June 08, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 06, 2011, 08:18:19 PM
Work can't expect me to be on time in a blizzard. Fuck that noise.
Snow actually makes very little noise, fwiw.  :huh:
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.  If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln

"Freedom and not servitude is the cure of anarchy; as religion, and not atheism, is the true remedy of superstition."
~Edmund Burke

Fighting the good fight, one beer at a time.

BimmerM3

#99
June 08, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: hounddog on June 08, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Snow actually makes very little noise, fwiw.  :huh:

It's just an expression. Like "screw that."

Madman

#100
June 12, 2011, 04:43:43 AM
Seven $7,142.85 used cars.  One for each day of the week!  :ohyeah:
Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

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Mustangfan2003

#101
June 12, 2011, 02:08:50 PM
With $50k you can buy 100k Yugos

565

#102
June 12, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: Madman on June 12, 2011, 04:43:43 AM
Seven $7,142.85 used cars.  One for each day of the week!  :ohyeah:


That's my dream,  7 cars, one for each day of the week.  They don't have to be expensive ones, just the ones I've always wanted as a kid.

I'm thinking I already got the MKIIII Supra Turbo, Pathfinder for winter beater and C5 Z06

Then add

FD RX7 (10K)
Evo VIII (13K, with highish miles)
996 Carrera 2 (local one selling for 15k)
Honda S2000 (12k)

And it doesn't matter if the FD spends most of it's time with blown apex seals, and the 996 is leaking through its RMS constantly cause I got 5 other cars as backup.

Lebowski

#103
June 12, 2011, 04:43:11 PM
Prob still go with a corvette coupe.

If 4 doors would be preferable prob a 335i

3.0L V6

#104
June 12, 2011, 04:51:41 PM
Audi S4 w/no options.

$47,975 - Six speed manual, 333hp supercharged V6 (13 second quarter mile times are quick enough for me), handling worthy of a BMW and all wheel drive helps in the winter as compared to rear-drive competitors (w/snow tires of course). Four doors there if you need to use them, also.






Lebowski

#105
June 13, 2011, 05:51:59 AM
So is this thread rhetorical or are you thinking of getting a new car?

MrH

#106
June 14, 2011, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on June 13, 2011, 05:51:59 AM
So is this thread rhetorical or are you thinking of getting a new car?

A little from column A, a little from column B. :lol:
2023 Ford Lightning Lariat ER
2019 Acura RDX SH-AWD
2023 BRZ Limited

Previous: '02 Mazda Protege5, '08 Mazda Miata, '05 Toyota Tacoma, '09 Honda Element, '13 Subaru BRZ, '14 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0, '15 Toyota 4Runner SR5, '18 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0t, '01 Honda S2000, '20 Subaru Outback XT, '23 Chevy Bolt EUV

SJ_GTI

#107
June 15, 2011, 07:46:56 AM
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on June 12, 2011, 04:51:41 PM
Audi S4 w/no options.

$47,975 - Six speed manual, 333hp supercharged V6 (13 second quarter mile times are quick enough for me), handling worthy of a BMW and all wheel drive helps in the winter as compared to rear-drive competitors (w/snow tires of course). Four doors there if you need to use them, also.


:praise:

If I didn't already have an S4, I think the next cars I'd be looking at are the 335i Coupe and Camaro SS.

Re: Driving in the snow...my S4 is a blast in the snow. I have snow tires for winter so not much trouble with grip. Rear-biased AWD adds to the fun! Only thing that worries me about driving in the snow is other people.

Tave

#108
June 15, 2011, 08:14:58 AM
I don't think the type of car you seem to be leaning towards will be as good in the snow as your Miata unless you go with something like the S4 or 335xi. The Miata is small, low powered, perfectly balanced, with relatively narrow tires. All that = instant fun in the snow. Don't bet on the larger, more powerful RWD sports cars/sedans behaving the same way. My uncle eventually sold his 996 after he moved to Wyoming because it was nearly impossible to get up his driveway with snow on the ground.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

SJ_GTI

#109
June 15, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Quote from: Tave on June 15, 2011, 08:14:58 AM
I don't think the type of car you seem to be leaning towards will be as good in the snow as your Miata unless you go with something like the S4 or 335xi. The Miata is small, low powered, perfectly balanced, with relatively narrow tires. All that = instant fun in the snow. Don't bet on the larger, more powerful RWD sports cars/sedans behaving the same way. My uncle eventually sold his 996 after he moved to Wyoming because it was nearly impossible to get up his driveway with snow on the ground.

Do you guys think skinnier tires are better in the snow??

I have fairly wide winter/snow tires (255) and they seem to be fantastic. Obviously AWD helps, but I can't ever remember feeling that I lacked traction due to the width of the tires? Considering they are winter tires esigned with snow traction in mind...I figured a wider tire would give better traction...?

SVT666

#110
June 15, 2011, 09:37:43 AM
When I had my Mustang I had 245s for summer and 215s for winter.  I went to the 215s after using 225s and I did notice an increase in traction despite the tires being exactly the same model.

hounddog

#111
June 15, 2011, 09:47:49 AM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 08, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
It's just an expression. Like "screw that."
Yes, I know.  ;)
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.  If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln

"Freedom and not servitude is the cure of anarchy; as religion, and not atheism, is the true remedy of superstition."
~Edmund Burke

Fighting the good fight, one beer at a time.

Madman

#112
June 15, 2011, 10:11:00 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on June 15, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Do you guys think skinnier tires are better in the snow??


The WRC seem to think so....


Current cars: 2015 Ford Escape SE, 2011 MINI Cooper

Formerly owned cars: 2010 Mazda 5 Sport, 2008 Audi A4 2.0T S-Line Sedan, 2003 Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T wagon, 1998 Ford Escort SE sedan, 2001 Cadillac Catera, 2000 Volkswagen Golf GLS 2.0 5-Door, 1997 Honda Odyssey LX, 1991 Volvo 240 sedan, 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo sedan, 1987 Volvo 240 DL sedan, 1990 Peugeot 405 DL Sportswagon, 1985 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan, 1985 Merkur XR4Ti, 1983 Renault R9 Alliance DL sedan, 1979 Chevrolet Caprice Classic wagon, 1975 Volkswagen Transporter, 1980 Fiat X-1/9 Bertone, 1979 Volkswagen Rabbit C 3-Door hatch, 1976 Ford Pinto V6 coupe, 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe sedan

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~ Isaac Asimov

"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

sportyaccordy

#113
June 15, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on June 15, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Do you guys think skinnier tires are better in the snow??

I have fairly wide winter/snow tires (255) and they seem to be fantastic. Obviously AWD helps, but I can't ever remember feeling that I lacked traction due to the width of the tires? Considering they are winter tires esigned with snow traction in mind...I figured a wider tire would give better traction...?
Well, it's more about the weight on the contact patch. Your Audi on a 255 width patch might be like a rally car on a 185 width or w/e that is patch, as far as patch pressure goes. Above a certain weight to tire size ratio the tires become unsafe, but yea generally for snow you want to go with as narrow a tire as possible, to "cut" through the snow rather than sit on top of it.

sportyaccordy

#114
June 15, 2011, 10:26:35 AM
Looking back at my choices... mmm 996 Targa really sounds good. Eff the rest though, except maybe the E46 M3. I like the idea of a 128i w/some upgrades too. I/H/E, LSD, M3 brakes & some kind of spring/shock upgrade. Little lightening up, pretty potent car actually.

Tave

#115
June 15, 2011, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on June 15, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Do you guys think skinnier tires are better in the snow??

I have fairly wide winter/snow tires (255) and they seem to be fantastic. Obviously AWD helps, but I can't ever remember feeling that I lacked traction due to the width of the tires? Considering they are winter tires esigned with snow traction in mind...I figured a wider tire would give better traction...?

Skinny tires float less than larger tires. They result in the vehicle planting more pounds per square inch on the contact points, which allows it to dig into the snow surface better.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

hounddog

#116
June 15, 2011, 10:30:06 AM Last Edit: June 15, 2011, 10:33:55 AM by hounddog
Quote from: sportyaccordy on June 15, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
Well, it's more about the weight on the contact patch. Your Audi on a 255 width patch might be like a rally car on a 185 width or w/e that is patch, as far as patch pressure goes. Above a certain weight to tire size ratio the tires become unsafe, but yea generally for snow you want to go with as narrow a tire as possible, to "cut" through the snow rather than sit on top of it.
Contact patch of factory size tires is generally about the size of a sheet of paper folded in half, or, about 3 inches wide.  Smaller on smaller tires, I believe.

And, yes, thinner tires do better in deep snow.  My understanding of tire physics is that wider tires do better on ice, but, I admit I could be wrong on how I remember that.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.  If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln

"Freedom and not servitude is the cure of anarchy; as religion, and not atheism, is the true remedy of superstition."
~Edmund Burke

Fighting the good fight, one beer at a time.

Tave

#117
June 15, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: hounddog on June 15, 2011, 10:30:06 AM
Contact patch of factory size tires is generally about the size of a sheet of paper folded in half, or, about 3 inches wide.

Which means that relatively small changes in tire size can have a relatively large effect on total contact area.
As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.

Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

hounddog

#118
June 15, 2011, 10:34:39 AM
Quote from: Tave on June 15, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
Which means that relatively small changes in tire size can have a relatively large effect on total contact area.
I would say so.

Also, inflation of the tires can change that as well.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside.  If we falter and lose our freedoms it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
~Abraham Lincoln

"Freedom and not servitude is the cure of anarchy; as religion, and not atheism, is the true remedy of superstition."
~Edmund Burke

Fighting the good fight, one beer at a time.
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