Quote from: hotrodalex on January 01, 2015, 04:48:15 PM


Engineering superiority.

Fuck chains

Where's r0tor and josh?

My old 2.8 Cologne had gears. With "fibre" tooth ring.

Quote from: HotRodPilot on January 02, 2015, 01:30:09 AM
Where's r0tor and josh?

Ordering apex seals 

Quote from: mzziaz on January 02, 2015, 03:03:41 AM
My old 2.8 Cologne had gears. With "fibre" tooth ring.

My personal favorite were the later, 4.0L SOHC Colognes with timing chains on the front and back of the motor.  One ran from the crank to an idler (where the cam is on OHV Colognes) and then chains ran from the idler up to the camshafts.  One of the cam drive chains was in front and the other in the rear.

Quote from: MX793 on January 02, 2015, 08:17:17 AM
My personal favorite were the later, 4.0L SOHC Colognes with timing chains on the front and back of the motor.  One ran from the crank to an idler (where the cam is on OHV Colognes) and then chains ran from the idler up to the camshafts.  One of the cam drive chains was in front and the other in the rear.

That's terrible.  Sounds like a PITA to work on.

Quote from: SVT666 on January 02, 2015, 09:40:04 AM
That's terrible.  Sounds like a PITA to work on.

When trying to make an OHC engine from an OHV design as cheaply as possible, corners much be cut.

Quote from: MX793 on January 02, 2015, 09:53:43 AM
When trying to make an OHC engine from an OHV design as cheaply as possible, corners much be cut.

I had this engine in my '93 Aerostar.  Only had it for 3 years but it was a great highway cruiser.  For some reason, it sounded really nice as well.

Quote from: FoMoJo on January 02, 2015, 10:44:39 AM
I had this engine in my '93 Aerostar.  Only had it for 3 years but it was a great highway cruiser.  For some reason, it sounded really nice as well.

Yours would have been the OHV version of the 4.0L.  The SOHC version of the 4.0L came out in '96.

Quote from: MX793 on January 02, 2015, 08:17:17 AM
My personal favorite were the later, 4.0L SOHC Colognes with timing chains on the front and back of the motor.  One ran from the crank to an idler (where the cam is on OHV Colognes) and then chains ran from the idler up to the camshafts.  One of the cam drive chains was in front and the other in the rear.

Hilarious

The real answer to horrendous used S4 reliabilty is

Quote from: HotRodPilot on January 02, 2015, 01:30:09 AM
Where's r0tor and josh?

Too busy trying to count my timing chains...

I admit,  i shopped around the idea of a used isf a while back.

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on January 02, 2015, 05:02:25 PM
I admit,  i shopped around the idea of a used isf a while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7-oDaKPdtI#t=73

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on January 02, 2015, 05:02:25 PM
I admit,  i shopped around the idea of a used isf a while back.

Who hasnt... great sounding yamaha V8 thats even more reliable then the base rock solid IS.  Plus tge cars with torsen diffs drive superbly

Quote from: r0tor on January 02, 2015, 05:21:33 PM
Who hasnt... great sounding yamaha V8 thats even more reliable then the base rock solid IS.  Plus tge cars with torsen diffs drive superbly

I looked around pretty hard for a couple months, very hard to come by atleast in my area.

Especially the good years... super rare

Meh, V8 sound track and Toyota reliability but comically small back seat, ricer-ish styling queues and weak slushie AT. I'd probably take a (B8) S4 over an IS-F, and that's saying something.

No it isn't.

Quote from: GoCougs on January 02, 2015, 10:57:25 PM
Meh, V8 sound track and Toyota reliability but comically small back seat, ricer-ish styling queues and weak slushie AT. I'd probably take a (B8) S4 over an IS-F, and that's saying something.

In real life, it looks more ordinary then an M, RS, or V car

Quote from: r0tor on January 03, 2015, 10:09:52 AM
In real life, it looks more ordinary then an M, RS, or V car

Not a chance, it stands out and not in a good way (ricer-esque lowering job, bit of a goofy body kit).

The Cadillac V cars are the blingiest of the performance sedans.

This is why I drive a Camry V6. Performance and reliability, bitches! 

Even after reading this thread, I went to autotrader.com and started looking up S4's and RS4's to see what they're going for.

B8 S4s are holding their value inconveniently well

Quote from: CALL_911 on January 05, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
B8 S4s are holding their value inconveniently well

Because they aren't epic pieces of shit like all the other models. I drove a Stage 2? APR version - quick.

Quote from: Char on February 06, 2015, 04:57:49 PM
Because they aren't epic pieces of shit like all the other models. I drove a Stage 2? APR version - quick.

I don't particularly care for the A4, but the S4 is one of my favorite sedans on sale today

 these things are so cheap now.

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/4884323018.html

High mileage german cars are bad. I would hesitate before spending any money on a german car with anywhere near 150K on it, an audi worst of all.

A 150K mile V8 S4 is a high probability nightmare, IMO.

Wowowowowowow

I wouldn't DD that thing for free though

Its not the cost of entry that kills you on these things.