Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on May 19, 2015, 07:42:25 PM
Next time a Z28 laps you and your Miata on your local track I'll come by to help you pull your foot out your mouth. 

I don't think I've ever seen a new(5th or later) camaro at the track(the events I've gone to).

Edit: Maybe it has something to do with weight restrictions?

Quote from: SVT666 on May 19, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
I think we just figured out who doesn't have a sense of humour.

U must not have seen dude's FB feed.....

I think he was Bernie Mac's ghost writer....

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 20, 2015, 07:13:56 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a new(5th or later) camaro at the track(the events I've gone to).

Edit: Maybe it has something to do with weight restrictions?

Weight restrictions for the car or the driver?

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 20, 2015, 08:54:36 AM
U must not have seen dude's FB feed.....

I think he was Bernie Mac's ghost writer....

I don't have FB.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 20, 2015, 08:54:36 AM
U must not have seen dude's FB feed.....

I think he was Bernie Mac's ghost writer....

Oh Snap! Was 666 talking about my sense of humor?

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 20, 2015, 07:13:56 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a new(5th or later) camaro at the track(the events I've gone to).

Edit: Maybe it has something to do with weight restrictions?

Crafty. I'll let you have that one!

Seriously though, I've seen way more vettes at AutoX or expecially Road Course events than any other domestic vehicle. Never seen a camaro(new gen, seen a 4th gen).

It really just isn't a car that seems to attract that type of customer, IMO.

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 20, 2015, 11:36:29 AM
Seriously though, I've seen way more vettes at AutoX or expecially Road Course events than any other domestic vehicle. Never seen a camaro(new gen, seen a 4th gen).

It really just isn't a car that seems to attract that type of customer, IMO.

I think people see Pony cars as drag racers while the Vette is viewed as a more capable handler.

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on May 20, 2015, 11:38:50 AM
I think people see Pony cars as drag racers while the Vette is viewed as a more capable handler.

The cars themselves reflect that. I think they "see" them as they are. Granted the "pony cars"(I actually wish they would drop that) are getting more capable then ever. But the overall design choices still seem to support that mentality(drag racers, "Pony" cars).

I think dropping that persona, even from a corporate image point of view, and focusing on being actual sports cars(no mention of pony anywhere) would help with the way they are perceived and hopefully how they are actually designed.

True Dat!

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 20, 2015, 11:36:29 AM
Seriously though, I've seen way more vettes at AutoX or expecially Road Course events than any other domestic vehicle. Never seen a camaro(new gen, seen a 4th gen).

It really just isn't a car that seems to attract that type of customer, IMO.

I've been autocrossing regularly for 5 years.  I've seen exactly one 5th gen Camaro at an autocross, despite the fact that they are hugely popular around here (by casual observation, significantly more popular/common than '10+ Mustangs).  Off the top of my head, I've run against 4 other S197 Mustangs (including a Boss 302).

Quote from: MX793 on May 20, 2015, 03:09:10 PM
I've been autocrossing regularly for 5 years.  I've seen exactly one 5th gen Camaro at an autocross, despite the fact that they are hugely popular around here (by casual observation, significantly more popular/common than '10+ Mustangs).  Off the top of my head, I've run against 4 other S197 Mustangs (including a Boss 302).

I'm not really surprised at that. Now drive by your local golf course on a saturday and I'm sure you'd spot more than a few camaro's.

Not really a fan of the car as we've seen it so far, but this looks pretty rad.

Quote from: 68_427 on May 22, 2015, 12:36:33 AM
Not really a fan of the car as we've seen it so far, but this looks pretty rad.

Whoa, that looks fantastic.

Quote from: 68_427 on May 22, 2015, 12:36:33 AM
Not really a fan of the car as we've seen it so far, but this looks pretty rad.

It pains me to say this, but I might actually prefer the new Camaro over the new Mustang.

Quote from: mzziaz on May 22, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
It pains me to say this, but I might actually prefer the new Camaro over the new Mustang.

That picture is not stock.

Accentuating the fender bulge mitigates all that metal between the rear wheel and rear window. That just might be 'shopping though...

Still can't get over those fucking windows.

C'mon GM.

Looks cheesy. Might need black fenders to break up that visual mass.

I don't like the back, or the front 3/4 shots.

Also GM is doing better, but the wheel gap(especially in the rear) is horrible.

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 22, 2015, 02:02:54 PM
I don't like the back, or the front 3/4 shots.

Yeah I pretty much like profile shots best. Looks a bit bloated otherwise?

The rear has a Challenger feel to it. Not a good thing, since that's the part I dislike most about the Challenger.

The next gen Camaro will have no windows at all. You lay down inside of it and drive using a vision system.

The small windows is actually kind of ironic, since these cars are for the 4 wheeled equivalent of the harley guy revving his motor at a stoplight. You'd think they would optimize the car for the look at me factor.

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on May 22, 2015, 03:38:40 PM
The small windows is actually kind of ironic, since these cars are for the 4 wheeled equivalent of the harley guy revving his motor at a stoplight. You'd think they would optimize the car for the look at me factor.

But that's why the car looks so cool. Maybe they'll have an optional seat lift with a roof bubble like the Pope Mobile.

Ed Welburn is a clown who wanted the roofline even lower on the 5th gen.

I was driving home from work today and thought I saw the new camaro. I couldn't believe it, i rubbed my eyes and sure enough it was just a passing locomotive heading downtown.

Hmmm. That doesn't make a lot of sense. The outgoing Camaro was 190.6" and that "diagram" shows the new Camaro to be ~3" longer.