Brake pads?

Started by 12,000 RPM, August 15, 2015, 05:33:50 AM

12,000 RPM

I eventually want to do an OEM BBK, but for right now I just want to work with what I have. I have been reading that a good set of pads and DOT 5 fluid are more than enough for aggressive street driving. I generally don't get too much fade, but sometimes it happens. Plus I want a sharper pedal feel and more bite. I mean my car has the same brakes as an old Accord while weighing 400lb less so I think stock is fine for now. Any recommendations?
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Rich

How are you getting fade on the street?  Are you making pilgrimages out to western NC?
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12,000 RPM

I have slowed down a bit but maybe once every 100 days I will hit 100 or so. I'm really looking more for better feel and a stiffer pedal.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Pancor

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 15, 2015, 08:44:48 AM
I have slowed down a bit but maybe once every 100 days I will hit 100 or so. I'm really looking more for better feel and a stiffer pedal.

Pads won't give you a stiffer pedal.    Replace the factory rubber brake hoses with some stainless braided units and do a full fluid flush for that rock-hard pedal feel!

MX793

Quote from: Pancor on August 17, 2015, 06:12:07 PM
Pads won't give you a stiffer pedal.    Replace the factory rubber brake hoses with some stainless braided units and do a full fluid flush for that rock-hard pedal feel!

+1.  A flush and bleed might help a little if you've got some air it there, but pedal softness is typically a function of the lines.  Rigidity of the pedal/master cylinder mount might also come into play.
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SS lines and a fluid flush are definitely in the cards.

I am still at a loss on what pads to go with though. Consensus elsewhere seems to be that Stoptech's street pads >>>> Hawk HPS, which is a start. Seems like a lot of people are running track or semi-track pads on the street which seems silly. I do remember some friends of mine swapped their rotors and pads on their Altima V6s and Maximas back in the day, and that made a HUGE difference. Back to back stops from 120 with no fade. I was crazy impressed. I want that kind of performance. I know those brakes are shit stock too because my brother has an Altima V6
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Hawk HPS are grate. My only complaint is they don't make a pad for Axnt. So I went with Power Stop Z23 Evolution Sport Carbon Fiber/Ceramic pads up front. They are better than OE, but not very impressive.
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MX793

Fade is more than pads.  Loss of pedal is usually caused by boiling fluid, which is a cooling issue and not really a pad issue.
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Quote from: MX793 on August 18, 2015, 09:48:28 AM
Fade is more than pads.  Loss of pedal is usually caused by boiling fluid, which is a cooling issue and not really a pad issue.

Axnt fades with one hard stop from 90. Lame.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

12,000 RPM

They dont look bad. I will give them an honest look. I need new rotors too. Mine are glazed and judder on fast stops. Kinda sucks.

I think I will do the brakes and suspension in October. Might do wifey's too :mask:
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2007 Mazda MX-5 | 1999 Honda Nighthawk 750 | 1989 Volvo 240 | 1991 Toyota 4Runner | 2006 Honda CBR600F4i | 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 | 1999 Honda CBR600F4 | 2009 Yamaha WR250X | 1985 Mazda RX-7 | 2000 Yamaha YZ426F | 2006 Yamaha FZ1 | 2002 Honda CBR954RR | 1996 Subaru Outback | 2018 Subaru Crosstrek | 1986 Toyota MR2
Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

12,000 RPM

120s or 125s? Is the cryo treatment worth it? I want to do ~2-3 track days a year. This is all looking pretty affordable... should be like $400 with SS lines. I think I already have a couple jugs of Motul 5.1 sitting around too..... if not, is DOT 5/5.1 fluid worth it?
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FlatBlackCaddy

Throw a chunk of 2x4 behind the pedal, that will firm her up nicely.

MX793

Brakes only serve to slow you down.
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