Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 15, 2015, 05:25:13 PM
Turbo and coilovers will solve all problems

As is though seems pretty pointless. I guess this is what happens when you give a small car big wheel wells.

Huh?

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 15, 2015, 05:25:13 PM
Turbo and coilovers will solve all problems

As is though seems pretty pointless. I guess this is what happens when you give a small car big wheel wells.

Quote from: 2o6 on December 15, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
Huh?

CX-3 would basically become a Mazdaspeed 2 with coilovers and a turbo. I could look past the packaging problems with that.

Reason it sucks packaging wise is because of the big wheel wells to fit those chunky CUV tires. That is a downside of "CUVization" nobody seems to notice.

So yea, without the performance boost this thing is pointless. A 3 hatch is better in literally every way besides having available 4WD.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 16, 2015, 05:32:29 AM
CX-3 would basically become a Mazdaspeed 2 with coilovers and a turbo. I could look past the packaging problems with that.

Reason it sucks packaging wise is because of the big wheel wells to fit those chunky CUV tires. That is a downside of "CUVization" nobody seems to notice.

So yea, without the performance boost this thing is pointless. A 3 hatch is better in literally every way besides having available 4WD.

Big wheel wells have nothing to do with packaging.

These wheels and tires are the same size as the Mazda 2/3. The HR-V and Juke are also CUVized small cars and they offer the benefits of AWD and CUV, such as ride height and hip point. The CX3 doesnt, and that's Mazda's fault. That has nothing to do with "coil overs, turbos, and big wheel wells". The big wheel wells aren't even true, the plastic cladding makes them look larger than they really are.

CX3's tires are 3" bigger and like 1" wider than the 2s, and its suspension has more travel. The wheel wells are bigger and eat into cabin space.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 16, 2015, 04:53:06 PM
CX3's tires are 3" bigger and like 1" wider than the 2s, and its suspension has more travel. The wheel wells are bigger and eat into cabin space.

No they aren't, and not its not.


We don't even get the current Mazda 2 in the US.

Quote from: 2o6 on December 16, 2015, 05:35:12 PM

No they aren't, and not its not.


We don't even get the current Mazda 2 in the US.

Lol they are. Look it up.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 16, 2015, 05:40:46 PM
Lol they are. Look it up.

The car I drove had 16's; which are the same size diameter (only wider) than the 16" on the Scion iA (captive import new Mazda 2)


The size of the "wheel wells has little to do with anything here, especially since the HR-V, Trax, Encore, Juke" use similar wheels, even larger and don't have the same issues with the muddied CUV image that those CX-3 has.


The problem is the car isn't an SUV, and it's not packaged right to be one. Interior space isn't as crucial as the fact it's packaged weird and kind of low to the ground.

Quote from: 2o6 on December 16, 2015, 08:10:45 PM


The car I drove had 16's; which are the same size diameter (only wider) than the 16" on the Scion iA (captive import new Mazda 2)


The size of the "wheel wells has little to do with anything here, especially since the HR-V, Trax, Encore, Juke" use similar wheels, even larger and don't have the same issues with the muddied CUV image that those CX-3 has.


The problem is the car isn't an SUV, and it's not packaged right to be one. Interior space isn't as crucial as the fact it's packaged weird and kind of low to the ground.

There's nearly a 1.5" difference in diameter between the 215/60R16s on the CX-3 and 185/60R16s on the iA.

I published my review of the CX-3; I already posted the TL;DR version in this thread.

http://www.examiner.com/article/review-2016-mazda-cx-3-touring-awd