$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

12,000 RPM · October 13, 2016, 12:36:05 PM

Quote from: MrH on October 13, 2016, 12:14:13 PM
Because the whole car isn't designed for it. It's not like the Camry is some amazing sports car, just waiting for a decent set of shocks to unleash it's potential. The whole thing is flawed from a dynamics perspective. And no one wants coilovers for it, so there aren't even any decent options. You're stuck with some no name garbage set of coilovers. So you're going to ruin the smooth ride and gain nothing essentially.

Lol. There are Bilstein B14 kits for the VW Beetle, VW Passat, Lexus GS300, Mazda 2 etc.... availability of coilovers has nothing to do with the dynamic potential of a platform. How is a Camry any more dynamically flawed than a Passat?

And Tein makes coilovers for it, as do Fortune Auto, who sends a dyno test out with every set they build #datdigression

Bottom line is you are trying to present your personal beliefs/tastes as some kind of objective truth, and failing

If coilovers are OK for a FWD A6 they are OK for a Camry.

MrH · October 13, 2016, 12:38:14 PM

I think they're also a waste for a Passat.

12,000 RPM · October 13, 2016, 12:46:32 PM

By your logic, coilovers from a legit brand for them exist, so they can't be a waste

And nobody said anything about coilovers turning a family sedan into a sports car. They'll tighten up the ride and make it look good. Roads down here are butter smooth so ride quality is no biggie. The Z was comfortable and the Civic almost feels downright soft despite the STs having springs 2x stiffer than stock

Just say "I don't want you to do this because I don't like it" and stop with these weak ass faux rationalizations

Madman · October 13, 2016, 12:53:32 PM

A Camry? A FU**ING Camry?!?!?

Hand over your gearhead card! It's just been revoked!

68_427 · October 13, 2016, 01:50:42 PM

I put cheap coils on an old Outback so i don't really see a problem. If he doesn't like it oh well... he only spent his money so instead of bitch why not wait for the possible fail and just point and laugh?

12,000 RPM · October 13, 2016, 02:15:06 PM

Quote from: 68_427 on October 13, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
I put cheap coils on an old Outback so i don't really see a problem. If he doesn't like it oh well... he only spent his money so instead of bitch why not wait for the possible fail and just point and laugh?

Exactly. No sweat off your back. My life, your entertainment

You should be happy to cross paths with a guy willing to put coilovers on a Camry

I think this has the potential to be if not awesome, at least interesting and practical enough to warrant doing.

2o6 · October 13, 2016, 04:12:19 PM

This lives near me. Kinda dope, tbh

12,000 RPM · October 13, 2016, 04:42:20 PM

That is not bad at all. Not great, but not bad

Eye of the Tiger · October 13, 2016, 05:49:34 PM

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Raza · October 13, 2016, 06:31:42 PM

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 13, 2016, 10:27:14 AM
Post workout endorphins prompted a thought.

How is a Camry V6 any worse than a 4Runner or Land Rover Discovery Sport for daily driver duty?

Go.

You're giving up a lot of utility for possibly even more boring to drive.

12,000 RPM · October 13, 2016, 07:43:47 PM

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 13, 2016, 05:49:34 PM
I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Rear 3/4 is definitely not its best angle. Especially while getting passed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnNdIVO1-8M

Quote from: Raza on October 13, 2016, 06:31:42 PM
You're giving up a lot of utility for possibly even more boring to drive.

You could enjoy cars so much more if you didn't take them so seriously

Eye of the Tiger · October 13, 2016, 07:49:56 PM

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 13, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
Rear 3/4 is definitely not its best angle. Especially while getting passed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnNdIVO1-8M

You could enjoy cars so much more if you didn't take them so seriously

Yes, we know it's fast. And it can make noises. But it's fugly. And I have to assume the brakes, steering and shift logic are as infuriating as ever. Anyway, wouldn't you rather have an Accord?

12,000 RPM · October 13, 2016, 08:09:14 PM

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 13, 2016, 07:49:56 PM
Yes, we know it's fast. And it can make noises. But it's fugly. And I have to assume the brakes, steering and shift logic are as infuriating as ever. Anyway, wouldn't you rather have an Accord?

Naw I did the Accord thing already. Had friends with V6 Accords and TLs. Did the VQ thing too obviously. Have to cross the final frontier of decent Japanese V6s

2o6 · October 13, 2016, 08:09:58 PM

Impala 3.6

Eye of the Tiger · October 13, 2016, 08:50:01 PM

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 13, 2016, 08:09:14 PM
Naw I did the Accord thing already. Had friends with V6 Accords and TLs. Did the VQ thing too obviously. Have to cross the final frontier of decent Japanese V6s

This is the worst logic to force yourself to buy a pointless car. It sounds like something I would do, except I would never spend so much money to do itm

Raza · October 13, 2016, 09:26:56 PM

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 13, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
Rear 3/4 is definitely not its best angle. Especially while getting passed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnNdIVO1-8M

You could enjoy cars so much more if you didn't take them so seriously

1. I enjoy cars plenty--there just aren't many cars that are enjoyable.
2. I take everything seriously.

Eye of the Tiger · October 13, 2016, 09:34:30 PM

Quote from: Raza on October 13, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
1. I enjoy cars plenty--there just aren't many cars that are enjoyable.
2. I take everything seriously.

1. Thruxton
2. I like turtles

68_427 · October 13, 2016, 09:38:03 PM

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?8243993-A-car-guy-s-take-on-the-Camry

Gotta-Qik-C7 · October 13, 2016, 09:48:46 PM

11 Pages and we're at a Modded Camry? You guys are getting old.........

Eye of the Tiger · October 13, 2016, 10:01:14 PM

Quote from: 68_427 on October 13, 2016, 09:38:03 PM
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?8243993-A-car-guy-s-take-on-the-Camry

I understand, but disagree with the premise.

CALL_911 · October 13, 2016, 10:29:59 PM

What about a ~2012 MDX with SHAWD

CaminoRacer · October 13, 2016, 10:44:07 PM

For $20k I'll sell you the El Camino. 5.7L V8, 400 HP, coilovers, drilled and slotted rotors, subwoofer, and a big bed for shaggin. What more could a man want?

68_427 · October 13, 2016, 11:09:23 PM

Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 13, 2016, 10:44:07 PM
For $20k I'll sell you the El Camino. 5.7L V8, 400 HP, coilovers, drilled and slotted rotors, subwoofer, and a big bed for shaggin. What more could a man want?

A cap

12,000 RPM · October 14, 2016, 04:41:35 AM

Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 13, 2016, 10:44:07 PM
For $20k I'll sell you the El Camino. 5.7L V8, 400 HP, coilovers, drilled and slotted rotors, subwoofer, and a big bed for shaggin. What more could a man want?

Airbags, a back seat for my future children, and fuel economy in the double digits

Guys I still have the motorcycle. As far as coolness goes that trumps all. Stop freaking out

12,000 RPM · October 14, 2016, 04:42:58 AM

Quote from: 68_427 on October 13, 2016, 09:38:03 PM
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?8243993-A-car-guy-s-take-on-the-Camry

QuotePeople love to hate on it because they think doing so is edgy or cool and makes them the next Jeremy Clarkson (I mean its one thing to hate on a Camry because it isn't a sports car, but it is kind of funny to see people hate on the Camry when they drive a Hyundai Camry or Honda Camry or Volkswagen Camry).

The current Camry is a great car for general use. And if you drive a current SE you'd be surprised. It has a totally different feel from the LE and handles excellent, about as good as any FWD family sedan I've driven. The handling is on par with a smaller car. In fact I'd even almost go as far to say that it is TOO sporty, because the ride is actually pretty rough for that type of car, due to the suspension changes.

I also think the current refresh is a great looking car too. It isn't fat and bloated like they were 10 years ago, and they got rid of all the plastic cladding that were on the earlier SEs.

Eye of the Tiger · October 14, 2016, 04:47:13 AM

How could you not want a CTS-V, first generation?

12,000 RPM · October 14, 2016, 05:48:16 AM

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 14, 2016, 04:47:13 AM
How could you not want a CTS-V, first generation?

Buddy of mine has one. They mostly fit the bill, but the consumables are crazy. Soooo expensive to maintain

68_427 · October 14, 2016, 05:51:57 AM

http://www.trdusa.com/superchargers.html

Eye of the Tiger · October 14, 2016, 06:19:37 AM

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 14, 2016, 05:48:16 AM
Buddy of mine has one. They mostly fit the bill, but the consumables are crazy. Soooo expensive to maintain

Don't be silly. Besides, you can figure out most of it yourself.

CaminoRacer · October 14, 2016, 06:28:54 AM

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 14, 2016, 04:41:35 AM
Airbags, a back seat for my future children, and fuel economy in the double digits

Guys I still have the motorcycle. As far as coolness goes that trumps all. Stop freaking out

I can bolt some child seats in the bed. Fuel economy is 15! And airbags, uhh, I can probably find some leftover Takata ones to throw in.

$20K for a more powerful DD.... WWCSD?

What would you pick?