Cars that suck

Started by 2o6, November 12, 2017, 12:46:39 AM

Soup DeVille

Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 12, 2017, 10:37:15 AM
Oops I meant long block.

I'll grudgingly believe that too. Neither are really what I think of when one says "crate engine" though.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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SJ_GTI

thought of another. I had a Hyundai Sonata as a rental (>10 years ago) that was worse than the Altima. I had forgotten about it because the newer ones are so much nicer. I remember the seat (or seating position) was just so bad I could not get comfortable. IIRC it had a V6 thought so it could scoot along ok, but wasn't particularly fast.

FoMoJo

Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 12, 2017, 10:20:29 AM
I really wanted to like the Smart when it came out; but somehow it failed to do any of the things I wanted from a small car (like being good on gas, or affordable)
Besides, anyone driving one looks, oddly, like an adult sitting in a baby carriage. 
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"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

2o6

I forgot I made this thread.



giant_mtb

Quote from: 2o6 on November 12, 2017, 11:36:01 AM
I forgot I made this thread.




Should probably change the OP from "tipsy" to "fucked uuuuuuup." :lol:

Laconian

New Chrysler 200. Inexcusable visibility, garbage transmission that thumped into gear, and the rotary shifter knob...

First generation Saturn VUE with the POS GM four. Couldn't track straight. Chevrolet Cobalt too, also couldn't stay in its lane. Maybe it's Magnetsteer MCMXVII that ruined these cars? Or was it the Kappa Delta Theta platform?
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Laconian

Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

2o6

Quote from: Laconian on November 12, 2017, 12:29:20 PM
New Chrysler 200. Inexcusable visibility, garbage transmission that thumped into gear, and the rotary shifter knob...

First generation Saturn VUE with the POS GM four. Couldn't track straight. Chevrolet Cobalt too, also couldn't stay in its lane. Maybe it's Magnetsteer MCMXVII that ruined these cars? Or was it the Kappa Delta Theta platform?


Astra is on same platform, it doesn't do that.

2o6

My nomination is the new Mirage


- half-baked design; the design looks like it was finalized in 1999, and they forgot they did a whole ass car and just put it in the microwave for it to reheat and sell to us in 2014

- the steering is vague with a big on-center dead spot

- the manual transmission feels low quality

- the car is very slow

- all of the addon features (Bluetooth, backup camera, apple carplay) feel tacked on as shit.

2o6

New Nissan Sentra


- Bad steering

- ugly as shit

- rides like a worn-out serta mattress

- slow as shit

- shit interior


Quote from: Speed_Racer on November 12, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
This piece of garbage. Had one as a rental for a week, it had zero redeeming qualities




Seconded. The Aveo vs Sonic is such a huge jump. The Aveo got no MPG, was slow, ugly, and had clumsy handling for what should be a manageable small car.

12,000 RPM

Protecctor of the Atmospheric Engine #TheyLiedToUs

Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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12,000 RPM

Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 12, 2017, 01:17:04 PM
Someone doesn't know what "long block" means. Those are turn key engines.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mll-ps4272ct?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-blueprint-engines&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy5WEn-251wIVGrbACh1XVwDTEAQYAyABEgJp2fD_BwE
Long block  = short block + heads my friend.

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I won't say this SUCKED per se, but I am still very disappointed with the non-sport F30 328i. Interior quality was not great, and the chassis tuning was downright horrible for a BMW. Idrive also is on the bottom half of infotainment interfaces I've used; which is strange as Mazda copied it and did a way better job. Needs a sport package; my friend's 228i M-Sport is legit.
Protecctor of the Atmospheric Engine #TheyLiedToUs

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 12, 2017, 01:19:06 PM
Long block  = short block + heads my friend.

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I won't say this SUCKED per se, but I am still very disappointed with the non-sport F30 328i. Interior quality was not great, and the chassis tuning was downright horrible for a BMW. Idrive also is on the bottom half of infotainment interfaces I've used; which is strange as Mazda copied it and did a way better job. Needs a sport package; my friend's 228i M-Sport is legit.

Yeah, what you showed has a lot more than just heads on it, donnit?
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

CaminoRacer

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 12, 2017, 01:15:24 PM
:confused:

-picture-

What's the confused smiley for? Saying that's it's not that big, or confused at how it fit into the car?
1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV, 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance

CaminoRacer

Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 12, 2017, 01:22:56 PM
Yeah, what you showed has a lot more than just heads on it, donnit?

Outside dimensions aren't much larger, though. The pulleys increase the length, but the intake isn't much taller than the valve covers on that engine.
1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV, 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance

12,000 RPM

Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 12, 2017, 02:04:16 PM
What's the confused smiley for? Saying that's it's not that big, or confused at how it fit into the car?
SBCs are small
Protecctor of the Atmospheric Engine #TheyLiedToUs

CaminoRacer

1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV, 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance

FoMoJo

Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 12, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
I fit a crate engine (in the crate) into the back of one. I'd say that cargo space is acceptable :huh:
Was it a panel?
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CaminoRacer

1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV, 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance

MrH

So my friend married this girl who I'm friends with. Her dad was a big time plant manager for Chrysler. So he's got some awesome cars. Had a viper gts, 1970 challenger in plum purple, cls63 amg, Plymouth sport fury, etc.

Unfortunately the side effect is that his kids all buy FCA cars too. And unfortunately at the budget end, they make some total shit.

She has a dodge nitro which may be the worst car I've ever experienced. The son in law, my friend, just bought a Chrysler 200 :facepalm: kills me.
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Previous: '02 Mazda Protege5, '08 Mazda Miata, '05 Toyota Tacoma, '09 Honda Element, '13 Subaru BRZ, '14 Hyundai Genesis R-Spec 5.0, '15 Toyota 4Runner SR5, '18 Honda Accord EX-L 2.0t, '01 Honda S2000, '20 Subaru Outback XT, '23 Chevy Bolt EUV

giant_mtb

Remember when sporty thought a 200 would be a good idea. lol

Soup DeVille

The Nitro is pretty crappy, but a bit better than the Caliber.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

CALL_911

There are a couple I can recall, but one especially bad one was a Fiat 500L we rented in Italy. It had the SMT, a transmission I'm amazed an engineer signed off on. Gigantic, gigantic piece of shit and ugly too.

I say we rename this the FCA thread. They currently make the biggest pieces of shit on the road by lightyears.


2004 S2000
2016 340xi

giant_mtb

Haven't they always?  Or at least during this century and slightly before? :lol: