Ferrari Odometer rollbacks

Started by AutobahnSHO, March 05, 2018, 07:46:55 AM


Raza

Looking forward to a cheap 430 Spyder 6MT to replace the Z4.
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MX793

Odometer rollback is a felony in the US, besides being incredibly unethical.  I'm honestly shocked that a US dealership would do this even if Ferrari told them to or that it was OK to do.
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giant_mtb

Ouch.

How would Ferrari itself benefit from being complicit in such activity?

MX793

Quote from: giant_mtb on March 05, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Ouch.

How would Ferrari itself benefit from being complicit in such activity?

Keeping resale values high keeps customers happy.  Happy customers buy more Ferraris.
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68_427

Isn't this story a year old now
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: 68_427 on March 05, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
Isn't this story a year old now

yes and no. They first reported it a year ago but recently learned Ferrari knew/ gave ok for dealerships to do it.
Will

12,000 RPM

Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.

1 digit odometer
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.

I can't find anything that says they are actually.

Lots of stuff about odometer disclosures and tampering laws, and recording the mileage correctly on documents; but nothing I can find actually says "must be equipped."
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shp4man

Good info....I'll remember that the next time I buy a Ferrari............ :muffin: :dance: :wtf:

Tave

Quote from: MX793 on March 05, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
Keeping resale values high keeps customers happy.  Happy customers buy more Ferraris.

It's even more insidious than that. Ferrari severely restricts the sale of new vehicles to first-time owners. It's really benefiting the incestuous Ferrari faithful to the significant detriment of new customers.

Not surprising giving how scummy a company it is, but yeesh!
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Gotta-Qik-C7

And this is why I'd drive right past the Ferrari dealership and buy a Lamborghini without second thought.........
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on March 06, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
And this is why I'd drive right past the Ferrari dealership and buy a Lamborghini without second thought.........

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MexicoCityM3

I already was leaning McLaren. This seals it.
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Rich

I was debating getting that Ferrari, but yeah, after this, I'm just gonna hang onto Miata
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AutobahnSHO

pfft

Ever since Mr. Bueller showed that Ferraris don't self-drive or fly well, PASS
Will

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Soup DeVille

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
pfft

Ever since Mr. Bueller showed that Ferraris don't self-drive or fly well, PASS

Except that was a Fiat.
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 12:55:57 PM
Except that was a Fiat.
Quote from: 93JC on March 07, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
MGB, from what I've heard.

Are you arguing with one of the finest John Hughes creations ever????????
Will

Soup DeVille

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
Are you arguing with one of the finest John Hughes creations ever????????

Neither of us is 100% right (but I'm righter). Its actually a Modena Spyder; not a kit car of any sort, but a car built up on a tube chassis running a 289 Ford engine. There are MGB tail lights, but the windshield and front cowl are Fiat 2000 (the roadster, not the heavy tank)
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MX793

So is the Ferrari dealer putting these cars up on jack stands, popping them in reverse, and leaving a brick on the accelerator to roll those miles off?
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
So is the Ferrari dealer putting these cars up on jack stands, popping them in reverse, and leaving a brick on the accelerator to roll those miles off?

Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
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MX793

Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.

Wrapped in velvet so as not to mar the accelerator pedal, I'm sure.
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CaminoRacer

I'm pretty sure they designed & built their own special V12-powered drills.
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93JC

Quote from: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
Wrapped in velvet so as not to mar the accelerator pedal, I'm sure.

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