Quote from: MrH on September 12, 2019, 05:05:16 PM
Taycan sets ring record.

Elon tweets he's going to the ring next week

Ring doesn't have anything on the schedule for him and he's done nothing to get ready for this

He ends up taking a highly modified model S to Laguna Seca and claims he set a record.  And that this model S will come out next year sometime.

Laguna Seca says no course times were officiated, so no record was set



So ridiculous.

So ridiculous indeed... Ridiculously fast

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-may-have-already-crushed-porsches-ev-nurburgring-1838179307


I wonder how much faster it could go if they put a "turbo" badge on it

I wonder how much slower it would go if it had factory tires

I would ask when that version will be available for purchase

But I will have to ask what relevance a Ring time has to my life first.

It's all about the ability to magazine race your car and it could beat another car's magazine times.

Quote from: r0tor on September 17, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
So ridiculous indeed... Ridiculously fast

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-may-have-already-crushed-porsches-ev-nurburgring-1838179307


I wonder how much faster it could go if they put a "turbo" badge on it

That's not a production car

Now it's coming out that wasn't a full out lap.  They cut off the main straight quite a bit unless it's totally closed for an OEM.  Open days to the public are like this.  It chops about a mile out of the whole thing.

Not sure why I expected anything less from the guy responsible for the largest fake buyout in SEC history...

hahahahahahahahahaha  He's like Trump's cousin

Tesla's twitter account tweeted this today:

"Data from our track tests indicates that Model S Plaid can achieve 7:20 at the Nürburgring."

Data indicates it can achieve.  L-O-FUCKING-L

This is Musk in a nut shell.  Comes to the Nurburgring, doesn't complete a full lap, tries to string together different sectors of multiple laps together, in a non-production, stripped out version of a highly modified model S.  Claims victory.

What a fucking joke.

And now there's a video of a model S broken down on the ring.  There's a tow truck coming out for it, while a Taycan laps it.  I couldn't write a better movie for Porsche if I tried

Lol. Musk is beyond stupid anymore.

It's standard track practice to take your best sector times to create a theoretical best time to chase after...

Quote from: r0tor on September 19, 2019, 06:39:05 PM
It's standard track practice to take your best sector times to create a theoretical best time to chase after...

This is not how the 'ring is done.

Quote from: r0tor on September 19, 2019, 06:39:05 PM
It's standard track practice to take your best sector times to create a theoretical best time to chase after...

Wtf are you talking about?  That's not how any ring track time works.

Can't believe you so willingly carry the water for such an obvious fraudster.  It's so sad.

Quote from: MrH on September 19, 2019, 06:50:39 PM
Wtf are you talking about?  That's not how any ring track time works.

Can't believe you so willingly carry the water for such an obvious fraudster.  It's so sad.

Anyone that goes to a track checks out their sector times to figure out a number to chace.  It's not an official lap time, it's what your perfect lap could be and what the driver wants to get

Yeesh

They didn't beat the taycan then.

Quote from: MrH on September 19, 2019, 06:58:18 PM
They didn't beat the taycan then.

Where did Tesla say they did?

So how badly underwater are you in your short positions anyway?

Quote from: r0tor on September 19, 2019, 07:09:50 PM
So how badly underwater are you in your short positions anyway?

I spent my 401k on a luxury car like you suggested. My only retirement is Tesla shorts now.

Quote from: MrH on September 19, 2019, 07:21:19 PM
I spent my 401k on a luxury car like you suggested. My only retirement is Tesla shorts now.

I took out a reverse mortgage on my house to buy new coil springs for my lawn mower.

Quote from: r0tor on September 19, 2019, 06:39:05 PM
It's standard track practice to take your best sector times to create a theoretical best time to chase after...

OK then, post some other examples of manufacturers publishing theoretical Ring times.

Quote from: r0tor on September 19, 2019, 06:55:45 PM
Anyone that goes to a track checks out their sector times to figure out a number to chace.  It's not an official lap time, it's what your perfect lap could be and what the driver wants to get

Yeesh

On a circuit as long as the ring, and especially on an EV with known and documenting heat issues after a couple laps on much shorter tracks, piecing together multiple parts from multiple runs is more than a little dishonest.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 20, 2019, 07:06:38 AM
On a circuit as long as the ring, and especially on an EV with known and documenting heat issues after a couple laps on much shorter tracks, piecing together multiple parts from multiple runs is more than a little dishonest.

Again, where are they advertising an official lap time? They only announced what they think they can get to after a day of testing

I don't think that day will be today

https://jalopnik.com/one-of-teslas-nurburgring-cars-broke-down-and-got-passe-1838282128

Quote from: r0tor on September 20, 2019, 08:42:58 AM
Again, where are they advertising an official lap time? They only announced what they think they can get to after a day of testing

You apparently thought they beat it

Quote from: r0tor on September 17, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
So ridiculous indeed... Ridiculously fast

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-may-have-already-crushed-porsches-ev-nurburgring-1838179307


I wonder how much faster it could go if they put a "turbo" badge on it

Quote from: r0tor on September 20, 2019, 08:42:58 AM
Again, where are they advertising an official lap time? They only announced what they think they can get to after a day of testing

Which is a bit dishonest.

Quote from: MrH on September 20, 2019, 09:04:45 AM
You apparently thought they beat it

That was from the independent reporters at the track who regularly time cars... Not Tesla

Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 20, 2019, 09:17:11 AM
Which is a bit dishonest.

I guess Porsche is really dishonest. .. They don't even have any track time to back up their target

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/12/porsche-sets-630-ring-lap-time-target-next-hypercar/

More Porsche lies https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/28/porsche-taycan-sub-8-minute-nurburgring-lap/

Quote from: r0tor on September 20, 2019, 12:05:05 PM
I guess Porsche is really dishonest. .. They don't even have any track time to back up their target

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/12/porsche-sets-630-ring-lap-time-target-next-hypercar/

That literally says "this is our goal." Do I need to explain the difference between "we want to" and "we can?"

Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 20, 2019, 12:11:20 PM
That literally says "this is our goal." Do I need to explain the difference between "we want to" and "we can?"

So when Tesla says they believe they "can achieve xxxxx" that's a deceitful lap time and not a goal?  WTF is in the Tesla haterade these days...