Quote from: FoMoJo on August 15, 2019, 05:59:09 PM
What a V8 should sound like...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RxRn2lZaw

Yesssssss. But I'll take a regular stick shift with mine.

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 15, 2019, 02:19:52 PM
It was a disappointment that they went with the V6, but it got the job done. They woulda had to develop a different V8 to go with that package.

Till the ZR1 showed up...... 

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on August 15, 2019, 07:38:06 PM
Till the ZR1 showed up...... 

I was talkin' about Le Mans.

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 15, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
I was talkin' about Le Mans.

Gt500 apparently weights 4225 pounds. Which is some 400 pounds more than a zl1 ccamaro and 600 more than the GT350.

Seems like alot of weight.

Considering the GT350 is said to weigh 3760 lbs., that's a big difference for, basically, the same platform.

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 16, 2019, 01:53:28 PM
Considering the GT350 is said to weigh 3760 lbs., that's a big difference for, basically, the same platform.

Is it really that surprising though?  The 2013 GT500 was about 400/500 lbs heavier than the 302 Boss of the time.  Superchargers and all their plumbing, additional cooling needs, bigger brakes/tires/wheels, beefed up transmission, etc are all very heavy things that start adding up quick.

All over the nose too. YUCK. GT350 please.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 16, 2019, 02:06:24 PM
All over the nose too. YUCK. GT350 please.

Yeah, no doubt the GT500 is a track monster, but the Gt350 is pretty special.  As well, the 2020 GT350 will get some hand-me-downs from the GT500 that'll make it even more special.

Quote from: 565 on August 16, 2019, 01:14:34 PM
Gt500 apparently weights 4225 pounds. Which is some 400 pounds more than a zl1 ccamaro and 600 more than the GT350.

Seems like alot of weight.

SS 1lE: 3,700 lb
GT350: 3,800 lb
ZL1 1LE: 3,875 lb
GT500: 4,225

The weight disparities aren't quite that large, but big enough.

The new GT500, like the last, is more Hellcat than ZL1, and also like the last GT500, confused, esp. now w/out the availability of M/T.

All in all, the S550 Mustang is a good car, but it's a confused car and IMO plays on its legacy (i.e., see C&D this month whereby the new Supra is every bit the performance match of the GT350).

I am amazed at your continued bench racing spec tunnel vision

If the Rustang's performance is such a detriment why is it the to selling sporty coupe?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a28783877/2020-toyota-supra-vs-2019-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350/

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on August 26, 2019, 07:45:42 PM
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a28783877/2020-toyota-supra-vs-2019-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350/

Ouch - four years on the GT350 still lags the lowly SS 1LE...

https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/files/2019-chevrolet-camaro-ss-1le-vs-2019-ford-mustang-gt-ppl2-1562178164.pdf

Quote from: GoCougs on August 27, 2019, 09:09:09 AM
Ouch - four years on the GT350 still lags the lowly SS 1LE...

https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/files/2019-chevrolet-camaro-ss-1le-vs-2019-ford-mustang-gt-ppl2-1562178164.pdf

WOW!!

GT350 was never a dead-dig drag car.  It's geared for road racing.

Quote from: GoCougs on August 27, 2019, 09:09:09 AM
Ouch - four years on the GT350 still lags the lowly SS 1LE...

https://hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/files/2019-chevrolet-camaro-ss-1le-vs-2019-ford-mustang-gt-ppl2-1562178164.pdf

Your remark would make more sense if they had compared the Camaro to a GT350 rather than a GT .  As for GT350 vs Supra, apples and oranges; though the GT350 is a far more desirable car.

Quote from: MX793 on August 27, 2019, 09:53:06 AM
GT350 was never a dead-dig drag car.  It's geared for road racing.

The driving experience is irrelevant to bench racers.

Quote from: MX793 on August 27, 2019, 09:53:06 AM
GT350 was never a dead-dig drag car.  It's geared for road racing.

You have to admit that narrative pretty much went out the door early '90s (aka, debut of the GM LT-1 and 6sp M/T).

Also, don't forget braking, skidpad and lap times...

Quote from: FoMoJo on August 27, 2019, 10:15:28 AM
Your remark would make more sense if they had compared the Camaro to a GT350 rather than a GT .  As for GT350 vs Supra, apples and oranges; though the GT350 is a far more desirable car.

I was unclear and I apologize; I posted that link to illustrate the Camaro SS 1LE's performance numbers.

Sounds like a deal...Would you buy a 700-hp 2020 Ford Mustang for $40,000?

Not me; a stock GT makes about 100HP more than plenty of power for the road.

Quote from: FoMoJo on October 11, 2019, 11:50:14 AM
Sounds like a deal...Would you buy a 700-hp 2020 Ford Mustang for $40,000?

Love the color on that blower.

But no. 700 HP on the street is just a way of working out the traction control system.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 11, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
Love the color on that blower.

Nothing a can of high temp gold flake spray paint can't replicate....

700HP is indeed too much.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/29/2020-ford-shelby-gt500-first-drive/

Looks like the embargo was lifted today.

Handles well, lots of power, snappy transmission, but not as quick as expected, there are quirks in the steering and launch control, and 4,200 lbs and $95k fully loaded is a LOT of car.

But it is amazing you can buy these cars though - ZL1, GT500, Hellcats.

Quote from: GoCougs on October 29, 2019, 08:31:29 PM
Looks like the embargo was lifted today.

Handles well, lots of power, snappy transmission, but not as quick as expected, there are quirks in the steering and launch control, and 4,200 lbs and $95k fully loaded is a LOT of car.

But it is amazing you can buy these cars though - ZL1, GT500, Hellcats.

Got my ass handed to me by a Cat last month! Passed me like I was standing still! Made me start back shopping C7 Z06s! LOL!!

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on October 29, 2019, 08:53:37 PM
Got my ass handed to me by a Cat last month! Passed me like I was standing still! Made me start back shopping C7 Z06s! LOL!!

I'll take that slow ass C6 off your hands

Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 29, 2019, 09:54:18 PM
I'll take that slow ass C6 off your hands

LOL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjTpkAXXM7c

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on October 29, 2019, 07:13:03 PM
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/29/2020-ford-shelby-gt500-first-drive/

Got your attention, did it?

I like this review better...2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Review: This Changes Everything