Veyron vs. Eurofighter

[Galaxy]

It is not a simply dash to the quarter mile. They have to turn and come back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYhd_N01fLg

[Raza]

Holy hell, I need that job.

But why would he go with the regular mode for the race?  I would think the gains of Speed Mode in acceleration would offset the drag of the spoiler and whatever time you save with the airbrake.  I see what he was saying with the airbrake and the turnaround (which he did very well), but I think lowering that spoiler could have resulted in a win or a much closer race.

[Onslaught]

"Chuck Norris would've won against those two on his Delta force dirt bike!"

That reply under the video made me laugh.

[Submariner]

Even If top gear knew nothing of cars, even if they thought the Veyron was powered by a V8 diesel and the Enzo cost $19,995, segments make it the best car show on earth.

BTW, to they have a top gear track time for it?

[Onslaught]

I like that show. I like the humor and the car reviews. I just don't know how they have the money to do some of the stuff they pull off. Some of the stuff they do in these shows mush cost some mad cash.

[Lazerous]

I like that show. I like the humor and the car reviews. I just don't know how they have the money to do some of the stuff they pull off. Some of the stuff they do in these shows mush cost some mad cash.

Mad viewer ratings=mad cash yo!

Actually I too am surprised at how they pull some of this stuff off almost constantly.

[Eye of the Tiger]

cars ftl

[Lazerous]

cars ftl

I've always hated cars, actually. I prefer real raw horse power:

[Galaxy]

What I like about Top Gear is the cinematography.

[TheIntrepid]

What I like about Top Gear is the cinematography.

Yeah it makes it different than any other car show.

[Raza]

Even If top gear knew nothing of cars, even if they thought the Veyron was powered by a V8 diesel and the Enzo cost $19,995, segments make it the best car show on earth.

BTW, to they have a top gear track time for it?

I don't think so.  In the episode where James tops it out, he said that Bugatti won't let them run it on their track.

[Submariner]

I don't think so.  In the episode where James tops it out, he said that Bugatti won't let them run it on their track.

Hmmmm...I wonder why.

[sandertheshark]

Hmmmm...I wonder why.

The Stig has a deep-seated hatred for anything French.  They're afraid of what he may do to a Bugatti.

[sandertheshark]

Holy hell, I need that job.

But why would he go with the regular mode for the race?  I would think the gains of Speed Mode in acceleration would offset the drag of the spoiler and whatever time you save with the airbrake.  I see what he was saying with the airbrake and the turnaround (which he did very well), but I think lowering that spoiler could have resulted in a win or a much closer race.

gain a couple seconds on the acceleration, lose a couple on the braking.  Six=half-dozen, I'd say.

[Raza]

gain a couple seconds on the acceleration, lose a couple on the braking.  Six=half-dozen, I'd say.

Is there a way to change the configuration while on the move?  If so, he could switch to speed mode and speed back across the finish line after braking.

[Raghavan]

Is there a way to change the configuration while on the move?  If so, he switch to speed mode and speed back across the finish line after braking.

No, you have to come to a complete stop and put a key on the drivers footsill thingy...

[SVT_Power]

I thought when you turn the wheel more than a certain number of degrees, the full out speed setting disengages

[cawimmer430]

Did you see that? After take-off the Eurofighter pilot just guns his plane into literally a 90 degree upwards angle! Wow! I thought even modern jets would stall if this was attempted. Guess not! 

Oh yeah, the Veyron got spanked! 

Richie Hammond is hilariously funny: "I'm fighting for the Germans in a battle against the RAF!" 

[SVT_Power]

Did you see that? After take-off the Eurofighter pilot just guns his plane into literally a 90 degree upwards angle! Wow! I thought even modern jets would stall if this was attempted. Guess not! 

Oh yeah, the Veyron got spanked! 

Richie Hammond is hilariously funny: "I'm fighting for the Germans in a battle against the RAF!" 

I think i read somewhere that the F-16 Falcon was the first fighter jet to be able to climb vertically like that without stalling

[CALL_911]

The Eurofighter is awesome. 

[S204STi]

What I like about Top Gear is the cinematography.

Indeed, and the shots of that fighter were extraordinary.

[SVT666]

I thought when you turn the wheel more than a certain number of degrees, the full out speed setting disengages

If you turn the steering wheel more then a certain point and if you touch the brakes at all...the system will disengage and you have to stop, turn the car off, and stick the key in the floor again.

[sandertheshark]

I think i read somewhere that the F-16 Falcon was the first fighter jet to be able to climb vertically like that without stalling

No, I think the English Electric Lightning could sustain a vertical climb.

[sandertheshark]

The Eurofighter is awesome. 

It's a pretty slick machine.

[Galaxy]

No, I think the English Electric Lightning could sustain a vertical climb.

While it's climb rate of 15km/min is excellent even today it's thrust to weight ratio is less then one so it can not maintain a vertical climb.

[Raza]

It's a pretty slick machine.

F/A 22 vs. Eurofighter.  Which machine would win?

[93JC]

No, I think the English Electric Lightning could sustain a vertical climb.

At the very least the F-15 could, which predates the F-16.

[GoCougs]

F/A 22 vs. Eurofighter.  Which machine would win?

No contest: F/A 22.

[LonghornTX]

No contest: F/A 22.

Yep

[Galaxy]

F/A 22 vs. Eurofighter.  Which machine would win?

In most cases likely F-22, the Eurofighter would proberly often detect the F-22 to late, although fusing infrared with radar is reportedly working quite well, with infrared telling the targeting system which radar anomaly is an aircraft, (there are to many anomalies from clouds etc to tell which anomaly is a stealth plane otherwise) in ideal conditions the Eurofighters infrared sensor range is larger then the range of a AIM-120. Of all the aircraft the F-22 has been flown against in Simulations the Eurofighter has reportedly  fared the best. There are reports that it has managed simulated F-22 kills.

From Air Power review vol 20:

Typhoon has deployed to the US for tests by the Operational Evaluation Unit (OEU), presumably from England. In skirmishes with the F-22A, the Typhoon dominated the Within Visual Range engagements and apparently this really didn't surprise anyone because Typhoon is known for having outstanding agility. When it scored a radar lock on the F-22A at Beyond Visual Range, that caused quite a stir.

The Eurofighter does have several advantages over the F-22 it is more agil at low speeds and is the most agile aircraft mankind has built at supersonic speeds pulling 9g at Mach 1.2, 6g at 1.5. The F-22 has an advantage at high subsonic speeds and does not loose as much speed at high altitude.

The Eurofighter arguable currently has the more modern weapons with the IRIS-T and the upcoming delayed METEOR, however new weapons can be integrated into an existing platform.



Note that I used proberly, perhaps, maybe etc quite often. The specs of both aircraft are mostly calssified and one has to deduce the capabilites from the tidbits the aviation press manages to obtain.

I am sure that Sandertheshark could tell us more. If he is allowed.