This is what a Roadster Should Look Like!

[Catman]

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[TBR]

Looks a lot better than the Solstice imho.  

[ifcar]

Same, though I think it would look better if they went for a cleaner look.

[SJ_GTI]

Meh...it looks good, but I like the Solstice better.    

[Raza]

Very nice, but it seems as if the Solstice is coming out sooner.  So that will influence many decisions if the powerplants are the same.

[ifcar]

The Sky will also be more expensive.

[BMWDave]

I really like this roadster...a lot better than the Solstice.

[TBR]

The Sky will also be more expensive.

Yeah, but it will probably have more standard equipment also (the Solstice won't even have A/C standard, just so that they can advertise a sticker price lower than the Miatas).  

[ifcar]

The Sky will also be more expensive.

Yeah, but it will probably have more standard equipment also (the Solstice won't even have A/C standard, just so that they can advertise a sticker price lower than the Miatas).

I believe the Sky is intended to be a more-upscale vehicle, so it will probably be more expensive than a comparably-equipped Solstice.

[TBR]

The Sky will also be more expensive.

Yeah, but it will probably have more standard equipment also (the Solstice won't even have A/C standard, just so that they can advertise a sticker price lower than the Miatas).

I believe the Sky is intended to be a more-upscale vehicle, so it will probably be more expensive than a comparably-equipped Solstice.

Perhaps, who knows what will happen when GM is the one doing the figuring?

[footoflead]

Its ok....clean it up a little...slap a bigger motor in it...then we'll talk

[MrH]

I never quite understand why the more luxurious version is being badged as a Saturn.  Saturns have never been known for being luxurious.  

[ifcar]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

[BMWDave]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

Well put.  

[TBR]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

The only problem with that is that the S2k isn't more upscale than the MR2, it just has more power.  

[ifcar]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

The only problem with that is that the S2k isn't more upscale than the MR2, it just has more power.

It's a higher-end sports car, for its additional power, for its additional handling capabilities, for its better shifter, and for whatever other reasons. Luxury just doesn't happen to factor into the fact that its a more-upscale car.

[TBR]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

The only problem with that is that the S2k isn't more upscale than the MR2, it just has more power.

It's a higher-end sports car, for its additional power, for its additional handling capabilities, for its better shifter, and for whatever other reasons. Luxury just doesn't happen to factor into the fact that its a more-upscale car.

But the Solstice and Sky will be identical mechanically.  

[ifcar]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

The only problem with that is that the S2k isn't more upscale than the MR2, it just has more power.

It's a higher-end sports car, for its additional power, for its additional handling capabilities, for its better shifter, and for whatever other reasons. Luxury just doesn't happen to factor into the fact that its a more-upscale car.

But the Solstice and Sky will be identical mechanically.

I'm only going by what I've read, and according to that, the Sky will be a more-upscale version of the Solstice.  

[Raza]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

The only problem with that is that the S2k isn't more upscale than the MR2, it just has more power.

It's a higher-end sports car, for its additional power, for its additional handling capabilities, for its better shifter, and for whatever other reasons. Luxury just doesn't happen to factor into the fact that its a more-upscale car.

I think you may be over-estimating the S2000's handling capabilities.  It has more power and a better interior, more space, but I don't think it would handle better than the MR-2.

[ifcar]

It's not luxurious, it's just upscale. The same way an S2K is more upscale than an MR2, though no more luxurious.

The only problem with that is that the S2k isn't more upscale than the MR2, it just has more power.

It's a higher-end sports car, for its additional power, for its additional handling capabilities, for its better shifter, and for whatever other reasons. Luxury just doesn't happen to factor into the fact that its a more-upscale car.

I think you may be over-estimating the S2000's handling capabilities.  It has more power and a better interior, more space, but I don't think it would handle better than the MR-2.

Based on my (non-track) evaluation, they both handle extremely well but differently. The MR-2 is more of a tossable fun car, like a Miata more than an Elise, while the S2K is sharper and more precise.

[GMPenguin]

I honestly think this is one of the best-looking cars available (or will be anyway), if not the best.

Another pic:

[Raghavan]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

[TBR]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

If it is indeed supposed to be more upscale I would think not.

[Raghavan]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

If it is indeed supposed to be more upscale I would think not.

poop. :angry:  

[BMWDave]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

If it is indeed supposed to be more upscale I would think not.

poop. :angry:

If you want a car without A/C, then get the solstice.

[TBR]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

If it is indeed supposed to be more upscale I would think not.

poop. :angry:

If you want a car without A/C, then get the solstice.

Actually, I suspect it will be pretty much impossible to get even the Solstice without A/C, you would probably have to special order it, no dealer would be stupid enough to carry one without such a popular feature like A/C. They will probably sell less than 100 Solstices without A/C, they just want to be able to advertise a base price lower than the Miata's.  

[BMWDave]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

If it is indeed supposed to be more upscale I would think not.

poop. :angry:

If you want a car without A/C, then get the solstice.

Actually, I suspect it will be pretty much impossible to get even the Solstice without A/C, you would probably have to special order it, no dealer would be stupid enough to carry one without such a popular feature like A/C. They will probably sell less than 100 Solstices without A/C, they just want to be able to advertise a base price lower than the Miata's.

Very true.

[SJ_GTI]

so you can't get a sky without a/c?

If it is indeed supposed to be more upscale I would think not.

poop. :angry:

If you want a car without A/C, then get the solstice.

Actually, I suspect it will be pretty much impossible to get even the Solstice without A/C, you would probably have to special order it, no dealer would be stupid enough to carry one without such a popular feature like A/C. They will probably sell less than 100 Solstices without A/C, they just want to be able to advertise a base price lower than the Miata's.

Very true.

While your statements are "true," you are making some disingenuous connotations.

Your statement, "They will probably sell less than 100 Solstices without A/C, they just want to be able to advertise a base price lower than the Miata's" for instance implies that with A/C, the Solstice would not be able to advertise a lower price than the Miata.

Let's be clear: The Miata also does not offer A/C on its base version.

That being said, a Solstice equipped with A/C is still cheaper than a Miata without A/C (20,955 vs 20,995).

In the end there is absolutely zero reason to put any qulifiers when talking about the Solstice being a less expensive car than the Miata. Using MSRP you just won't be able to equip them evenly and get the Miata to be cheaper.

Now...did GM do this "so they could advertise it cheaper than the Miata." Well yes...but they actually are making it cheaper than a Miata...why wouldn't they want to advertise this?

Its like saying the only reason mazda made the 2006 Miata cheaper than the 2005 version was "just so they could advertise it as being a better deal."

Sorry for the long post, I just don't understand why people don't want to give credit to GM for doing something right once.

[TBR]

I admit that I haven't spent much time looking at the Solstice's pricing, but I don't understand how not offering A/C is the right thing, next to no one will buy a Solstice without it.  

[ifcar]

No one? Even ten people chosing ten vehicles produced without an air conditioner is still someone, and it lets them advertise a lower base price.