Edmunds: 2009 A4 3.2 Quattro vs 2008 MB C350

[cawimmer430]

In all german reviews I've read so far the A4 won against all competitors. In most cases the C-class was far behind. The c-class even lost against the new Mondeo once or twice.

If I remember correctly, in earlier days when a new Benz came out, no Ford would have been the better choice.

I must say that a red Avantgarde version looks pretty hot, but the ordinary C-class leaves me completely cold. The Audi on the other hand looks absolutely stunning in every perspective. Yesterday I've seen a white one with large rims.... HARRRR!!!! 

IMO the new c-class is a good car, but not a very good one that should have a star on the hood and have the price of a Mercedes. I absolutely can't imagine why anyone would want to buy this car.  (instead his last name is Wimmer...  ) . And the Audi is just damn hot and probably the best car in its class!!!! 

Oh, and don't forget the 3.2 has AWD, too...

The Ford Mondeo won based mainly on value. There have been several reviews where the W204 C-Class won over the new Audi A4 and BMW 3-Series. All that matters when ranking these cars is editor opinion. Big deal. 

[ArchBishop]

The Audi has a nice interior. To bad it's a shit car.

[Raza]

The Audi has a nice interior. Too bad it's a shit car.

Justification?  I mean, sure, it's no Altima, but "shit" is a strong adjective.

[Submariner]

I don't know what eon you're living in, but the Benz's interior is nothing to write home about.

It may have a one up on styling (well, a 4 up or 5 up actually)  But the CTS I sat in didn't blow me away with it's quality.  Panels wern't lined up properly, and none of the materials blew me away.

[CALL_911]

The Audi has a nice interior. To bad it's a shit car.

Wait, someone who drives one of these calls the Audi a shit car?

[AltinD]

^^ LOL

[ArchBishop]

Wait, someone who drives one of these calls the Audi a shit car?

yeah, My car is A. Reliable B. More rewarding to drive than those C. Handles and brakes better D. Cost a hell of a lot less.

Again, The audi is a shit car, just like everything else with the Audi/VW badge. When is the last time they made a class leading anything? 

And what do you drive again?

[ArchBishop]

Justification?  I mean, sure, it's no Altima, but "shit" is a strong adjective.

You know, I had it as "Too" and deleted the extra "o" out of ignorance.

VW makes overpriced, under engineered crap products. Not one car they make is actually "good" in my eyes.

[nickdrinkwater]

yeah, My car is A. Reliable B. More rewarding to drive than those C. Handles and brakes better D. Cost a hell of a lot less.

Again, The audi is a shit car, just like everything else with the Audi/VW badge. When is the last time they made a class leading anything? 

And what do you drive again?

An Altima is more rewarding to drive than an A6?  In what way does it handle and brake better?

I doubt you really believe that anything with an Audi or VW badge is shit.  More likely you're just trying to provoke people.

Recent class leaders for VW?  Try the Golf, Passat, Tiguan, Eos.... 

[Raza]

yeah, My car is A. Reliable B. More rewarding to drive than those C. Handles and brakes better D. Cost a hell of a lot less.

Again, The audi is a shit car, just like everything else with the Audi/VW badge. When is the last time they made a class leading anything? 

And what do you drive again?

You know, I had it as "Too" and deleted the extra "o" out of ignorance.

VW makes overpriced, under engineered crap products. Not one car they make is actually "good" in my eyes.

You're not even worth the time of a thought out response.

[Submariner]

You're not even worth the time of a thought out response.

Clearly you know nothing about cars, or the true power of the Altima/b]

yeah, My car is A. Reliable B. More rewarding to drive than those C. Handles and brakes better D. Cost a hell of a lot less.



Again, The audi is a shit car, just like everything else with the Audi/VW badge. When is the last time they made a class leading anything? 

And what do you drive again?

You know, I had it as "Too" and deleted the extra "o" out of ignorance.

VW makes overpriced, under engineered crap products. Not one car they make is actually "good" in my eyes.

I believe you man!  Heres the picture I got from Altima.com of you blowing away an overpriced VW POS!

[JYODER240]

yeah, My car is A. Reliable B. More rewarding to drive than those C. Handles and brakes better D. Cost a hell of a lot less.

Again, The audi is a shit car, just like everything else with the Audi/VW badge. When is the last time they made a class leading anything? 

My car is a more reliable, more involving, performs better, and costs less than a lot of other cars, but that doesn't neccasarily make it better or those other cars junk.

[Vinsanity]

yeah, My car is A. Reliable B. More rewarding to drive than those C. Handles and brakes better D. Cost a hell of a lot less.

I'm no VW fan, but that made me literally LOL. Thanks.

[ArchBishop]

Your right, track ready braking systems, tires, and stiffer suspension are garbage compared to a 3600lb pile of German waste. Silly me.

I'm sure this car is garbage too...




heaven Forbid people read REAL magazines, like GRSM....

Let me ask, have you ever even worked on a car? Any of you?

[ArchBishop]

An Altima is more rewarding to drive than an A6?  In what way does it handle and brake better?

I doubt you really believe that anything with an Audi or VW badge is shit.  More likely you're just trying to provoke people.

Recent class leaders for VW?  Try the Golf, Passat, Tiguan, Eos.... 

Let me ask you this, in what why does my car NOT handle and brake better? 350lb front springs, with Stiffer Struts (about to go with a custom set up) Strut brace, polyurethane control arm bushings, control arm brace (or is that a front sway bar call911? Idiot.)  front adjustable camber plates, with a whiteline recommended alignment.
(1.5 degrees camber front, 2.0 caster, 0.0 toe. 1.75 degrees camber rear, 2.0 degrees of toe Rear)
The rear is pretty much more of the same with an addition of a 7/8th" adjustable rear sway bar.

With me in the car, and a full tank of gas, it is just under 3000lb, full weight. Daily driven.

But a car that weighs 3600lbs, and is targeted as a luxury sedan handles better?

Right.

[ArchBishop]

My car is a more reliable, more involving, performs better, and costs less than a lot of other cars, but that doesn't neccasarily make it better or those other cars junk.

It makes those cars inferior. Of course, if you drive it like a bitch, which I'm sure you do, then that makes you no better than them.

[Cookie Monster]

Let me ask you this, in what why does my car NOT handle and brake better? 350lb front springs, with Stiffer Struts (about to go with a custom set up) Strut brace, polyurethane control arm bushings, control arm brace (or is that a front sway bar call911? Idiot.)  front adjustable camber plates, with a whiteline recommended alignment.
(1.5 degrees camber front, 2.0 caster, 0.0 toe. 1.75 degrees camber rear, 2.0 degrees of toe Rear)
The rear is pretty much more of the same with an addition of a 7/8th" adjustable rear sway bar.

With me in the car, and a full tank of gas, it is just under 3000lb, full weight. Daily driven.

But a car that weighs 3600lbs, and is targeted as a luxury sedan handles better?

Right.

You can't compare a modified car to a bone stock car, especially one that has the biggest and heaviest engine.

[AltinD]

^^ Yeah he can ... it's a free country. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[nickdrinkwater]

Let me ask you this, in what why does my car NOT handle and brake better? 350lb front springs, with Stiffer Struts (about to go with a custom set up) Strut brace, polyurethane control arm bushings, control arm brace (or is that a front sway bar call911? Idiot.)  front adjustable camber plates, with a whiteline recommended alignment.
(1.5 degrees camber front, 2.0 caster, 0.0 toe. 1.75 degrees camber rear, 2.0 degrees of toe Rear)
The rear is pretty much more of the same with an addition of a 7/8th" adjustable rear sway bar.

With me in the car, and a full tank of gas, it is just under 3000lb, full weight. Daily driven.

But a car that weighs 3600lbs, and is targeted as a luxury sedan handles better?

Right.

By that logic we should be comparing a tuned Altima to a tuned Audi.

You'd look like a dickhead driving that Nissan on the road though.

[Submariner]

You have your head shoved so far up your ass that we shouldn't even bother telling you what an idiot you are.

[Submariner]

Your right, track ready braking systems, tires, and stiffer suspension are garbage compared to a 3600lb pile of German waste. Silly me.




heaven Forbid people read REAL magazines, like GRSM....

Let me ask, have you ever even worked on a car? Any of you?

I'm sure this car is garbage too...



I've been told it only has 200 HP from the terrible 2.0.  And Weighs 4000 pounds.



LOOK AT THAT POS THE GROUND UNDER IT IS CRACKING FROM THE WEIGHT.



And in case you accuse me of only posting sponsored cars (Lets actually see sponsored Altimas.  Oh wait...) I'll post a private guys budget car.



All overweight, all POS.

[sportyaccordy]

LOL ArchBishop is beasting

Again there is much more to a car than how well it performs on a track. So much more.

I saw a drag race where a super built up Civic beat a GT-R in a drag race. But guess what??? As much as I loathe the GT-R I would take that any day over the Civic. #'s aren't everything.

[JYODER240]

It makes those cars inferior. Of course, if you drive it like a bitch, which I'm sure you do, then that makes you no better than them.

[CALL_911]

And even after the mods, a bone stock A4 would still beat the living shit out of your Altima.

[JYODER240]

Doesn't really matter since you're comparing a modded 10yr old mainstream car to a new luxury sports sedan.

[CALL_911]

Doesn't really matter since you're comparing a modded 10yr old mainstream car to a new luxury sports sedan.

The funny part is how he thinks his mundane little sedan can actually hold a candle to one of the best players in the entry-lux/sport segment.

[Lebowski]

Let me ask you this, in what why does my car NOT handle and brake better? 350lb front springs, with Stiffer Struts (about to go with a custom set up) Strut brace, polyurethane control arm bushings, control arm brace (or is that a front sway bar call911? Idiot.)  front adjustable camber plates, with a whiteline recommended alignment.
(1.5 degrees camber front, 2.0 caster, 0.0 toe. 1.75 degrees camber rear, 2.0 degrees of toe Rear)
The rear is pretty much more of the same with an addition of a 7/8th" adjustable rear sway bar.

With me in the car, and a full tank of gas, it is just under 3000lb, full weight. Daily driven.

But a car that weighs 3600lbs, and is targeted as a luxury sedan handles better?

Right.

Mods/adjustments you made on Gran Turismo don't count.

[Lebowski]

Seriously ... that thing is fucking hideous.  I wouldn't be caught dead in that riced out shitbox.  Anyone over the age of 16 would get laughed out of town if they drove that, I don't care how it performs.

[r0tor]

the altima clearly needs a larger wing... clearly

[ArchBishop]

the altima clearly needs a larger wing... clearly

It's a Sentra, and that is for actual for National competition racing.