Low Displacement Challenge

[2o6]

Ok, you have an unlimited amount of cash to buy a set of cars: However, you have a displacent limit. You can choose cars from all over the world.


Everyday Car/Commuter (1400cc limit)

7-seater/CUV/Minivan (2000cc limit)

SUV/Offroader (1400cc limit)

Cheap Speed/Track toy (1600cc limit you can be a bit liberal with this, but nothing over 1.8L)

Luxury Car (2000cc limit)

[280Z Turbo]

I don't wanna play anymore.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Suzuki Swift

[MX793]

Everyday car:  RX-8
MVP:  Mazda5 (not the US market version, obviously)
SUV:  Suzuki Samurai
Track toy:  RX-7 Twin Turbo (Elise if I can go up to 1.8)
Luxury car:  A4 2.0T

[the Teuton]

1.4L Commuter car:



Golf GT TSI

2.0L 7-seater


Subaru Exiga terbow

1.4L SUV

Daihatsu Terios

Track toy


MINI Cooper JCW

2.0L Luxury Car


BMW 120iC...with the sports package, of course.

[280Z Turbo]

Everyday car:  RX-8
MVP:  Mazda5 (not the US market version, obviously)
SUV:  Suzuki Samurai
Track toy:  RX-7 Twin Turbo (Elise if I can go up to 1.8)
Luxury car:  A4 2.0T

Rotaries don't count.

Most sanctioning bodies make you multiply by 1.8.

[2o6]

Everyday Car:

VW Golf 1.4 TSI



7-seater/CUV

Vauxhall Zafira VXR



SUV

Suzuki Jimny


Luxury Car

BMW 320d


Cheap Speed/Luxury Car

Lotus Exige (17XX cc)

[the Teuton]

So far, my list is the best, and there's only one Subaru on it!

[2o6]

So far, my list is the best, and there's only one Subaru on it!

How in the world is a JCW mini better than an Exige? 

[the Teuton]

How in the world is a JCW mini better than an Exige? 

Well, your list just sucks.  Just because LeBron's on a team doesn't mean the team's gonna win.

[2o6]

Well, your list just sucks.  Just because LeBron's on a team doesn't mean the team's gonna win.

Golf TSI = ok, so we picked the same thing.

VXR Zafira > Exiga. Exiga is unproven and looks like a bloated legacy. It's also poorly packaged. Zafira has won numerous awards for it's interior packaging.

Jimny = Terios. Both are great Off-road runabouts.

120ic > 320d.........you got me on this one. If i'm right, 320d's are usually less equipped.

Exige >>>>>>>>>>> JCW Mini. Hands Down.

[the Teuton]

Golf TSI = you copied off me.  I'll take it as a compliment.

Exiga > Zafira VXR.  Come on, it has an EJ207 in it.  The car has a detuned STI powertrain and it just rocks.  It also looks better to boot.

Terios > Jimny.  The Jimny is a Samurai, and Samurais are older than dirt.  Jimnys here would kick ass.

120iC >>> 320d.  Eww, 3er.  Just eww.

Exige > JCW.  Fine, you got me there.  Like I said, LeBron alone could not take down the Celtics.

[2o6]

Golf TSI = you copied off me.  I'll take it as a compliment.

Exiga > Zafira VXR.  Come on, it has an EJ207 in it.  The car has a detuned STI powertrain and it just rocks.  It also looks better to boot.

2.0L, 240 HP. It's the same motor in the Cobalt SS Turbo. It's also a more usable 7-seater.

Terios > Jimny.  The Jimny is a Samurai, and Samurais are older than dirt.  Jimnys here would kick ass.

120iC >>> 320d.  Eww, 3er.  Just eww.

Exige > JCW.  Fine, you got me there.  Like I said, LeBron alone could not take down the Celtics.

[the Teuton]

Okay, so it comes down to this:  Ecotec or EJ207?  I'd go with the EJ.

[2o6]

Okay, so it comes down to this:  Ecotec or EJ207?  I'd go with the EJ.

Ecotec.


New List.

[MX793]

Rotaries don't count.

Most sanctioning bodies make you multiply by 1.8.

I thought it was 2x, did they adjust for volumetric efficiency differences?

[280Z Turbo]

I thought it was 2x, did they adjust for volumetric efficiency differences?

I know it's X1.8 with MCSCC, but I can't say for sure if other sanctioning bodies use the same multiplier.

[Raza]

Golf GT Twincharge, obviously, for the daily driver.


For the CUV, I'll take the Tiguan 2.0T.  With a stick.


Why does the offroader category have lower displacement than the CUV category?  I have no idea what to put here.

Caterham R500 for the track car.  Of course. 

0-60 in 3.6 seconds.

Luxury car would have to go to the 123d M Sport coupe. 

(Yes, it's a 1,995cc engine.  0-60 in 7 seconds)

Damn, couldn't find any place for the Renaultsport Megane dCi 175 at 1995cc.

[565]

If I add up all those displacements I get 8.4 Liters.

Thus I choose this.





I win.

[Tave]

120ic > 320d.........you got me on this one. If i'm right, 320d's are usually less equipped.

But much prettier, larger, and not all that heavier.

[Raza]

Anyway we can get a displacement increase for diesels?  Or count this as a CUV?

[Raza]

But much prettier, larger, and not all that heavier.

Prettier?  No way.
Larger isn't always what you want.
Not all that heavier is still heavier.  My luxury car choice is best.  You guys need to read spec sheets better!

[BimmerM3]

But much prettier uglier, larger larger, and not all that heavier.

Fixed. Note that I consider being larger to be a bad thing.

Oh, and since I'm too lazy to research displacement sizes, I'll take Raza's list with a Samurai for the SUV.

[Tave]

Fixed. Note that I consider being larger to be a bad thing.

A compact sedan is too large for your luxury car, even though you'd have several subcompacts and small sports cars?

I think you two have a bit to learn about luxury.

[Raza]

Fixed. Note that I consider being larger to be a bad thing.

Oh, and since I'm too lazy to research displacement sizes, I'll take Raza's list with a Samurai for the SUV.

[Raza]

A compact sedan is too large for your luxury car, even though you'd have several subcompacts and small sports cars?

I think you two have a bit to learn about luxury.

If I have a four door, or even a two door, Golf GT, what do I need a luxury car for other than the badge?  I took it because it was the only rear drive luxury car that I wanted.  I would have gone for the A4 2.0T (Quattro or FronTrak) or the Saab 9-3, but I had FWD and AWD already, and I didn't have a rear drive fixed top car.  I have a 4/2 door hatch and an SUV.  Why do I need a (relatively large) sedan on top of that?

Also, there's no 323d, so you're stuck with the slower 320d.  Fastest, lightest RWD car that fits the displacement constraint and luxury constraint is the 123d 2 door.

[MX793]

A compact sedan is too large for your luxury car, even though you'd have several subcompacts and small sports cars?

I think you two have a bit to learn about luxury.

I believe the latest 3ers have actually grown enough to qualify as midsize (albeit the very bottom end of the scale).

[Raza]

I believe the latest 3ers have actually grown enough to qualify as midsize (albeit the very bottom end of the scale).

Nope, still considered a compact (as is my car, which is 1" longer). 

[BimmerM3]

I believe the latest 3ers have actually grown enough to qualify as midsize (albeit the very bottom end of the scale).

Surprisingly, E90s are less than 4 inches longer than E36s. 3ers haven't grown very much, they're just packaged better.

EDIT: They haven't grown much in length. Of course, they're wider and quite a bit heavier.

[MX793]

Nope, still considered a compact (as is my car, which is 1" longer). 

Yeah, just checked, the 3er is still a few cubic feet shy of midsize status.