Csaba Csere resigns from C&D

Started by Laconian, December 16, 2008, 09:09:26 AM

Laconian

http://jalopnik.com/5111232/csaba-csere-car-and-driver-editor+in+chief-resigns

Jalopnik has confirmed Csaba Csere, the famously unpronounceable Editor-in-Chief of Hachette Filipacchi Magazines' flagship moneymaker Car and Driver, will be resigning his position effective January 1, 2009. Why?

We've been given no reason, but Csere has been in charge of Car and Driver since 1993 and with the magazine since 1980. Hachette will now be conducting a search for Csere's replacement.Thanks to JT for the tip!

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Speed_Racer

That's odd...

I guess we'll never know how to properly pronounce his name.

the Teuton

Pardon my French: 

THANK THE FUCKIN' LORD!

It's people like him why real enthusiasts can't find jobs at that magazine.  He emphasized being an engineer over being in love with the car, and I think he lost sight of what it means to be an enthusiast.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

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I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
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Laconian

C&D has a lot of problems but being engineering-oriented ain't one of them. It's been completely overtaken by fancy spec sheets and a proliferation of lazy, uncritical "short takes" and "baubles and bolt ons" sections.
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Quote from: Laconian on December 16, 2008, 10:28:18 AM
C&D has a lot of problems but being engineering-oriented ain't one of them. It's been completely overtaken by fancy spec sheets and a proliferation of lazy, uncritical "short takes" and "baubles and bolt ons" sections.

I think they've done a fine job of getting the point of the car and whether it's good or not in the short takes. They're missing detail, but they're not first-look-fawning.

Speed_Racer

Does anyone else not like the new layout? I find it kind of ADD-inducing.

Byteme

The real reason behind the resignation might surprise you.  Try to say this three times real fast.

Csaba Csere Car Czar.

Lebowski

Meh, who cares.

As far as I'm concerned C&D is nothing more than a "two shit magazine", and likely never will be.

Payman

Quote from: Byteme on December 16, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
The real reason behind the resignation might surprise you.  Try to say this three times real fast.

Csaba Csere Car Czar.

Choobah is the "Car Czar"??? Seriously?

FoMoJo

Quote from: Byteme on December 16, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
The real reason behind the resignation might surprise you.  Try to say this three times real fast.

Csaba Csere Car Czar.
Chubba Chedda?  How could he be Car Czar :confused:?  He knows too much about cars :huh:.
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Quote from: FoMoJo on December 16, 2008, 11:32:06 AM
Chubba Chedda?  How could he be Car Czar :confused:?  He knows too much about cars :huh:.

They need someone in there who hates cars and thinks that every American wants to drive an electric econo box.

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I picked up a C&D from the library the other week and it was awful. Their constant use of "IP" as an apparent acronym for "instrument panel" was a turn-off all by itself. I'll stick with Road & Track and CAR.


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the Teuton

I met a former C&D writer at Glenmoor, and while it was a great conversation, it made me realize that all of those people have huge egos.  I wonder what finally made Csere call it quits, seriously.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
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This guy must be of Hungarian descent with a name like that.  :ohyeah:
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Hmm, so where do I send my application? 
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mojammer

Car Czar?  I really doubt it.  If there was one it'd be a biz guy, politician, or some mix of the two, not a car guy. 

I still think C/D has the best writing of any magazine out there.  It's on par with Top Gear's show (better than the TG magazines).  It's informative, but more importantly it's funny.  Not always, Csaba Csere wasn't that great of a writer IMO, but usually the articles have at least some zest to them.
I look at other magazines for specs and numbers, but for entertainment, it's C/D all the way.

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Quote from: the Teuton on December 16, 2008, 10:56:01 PM
I met a former C&D writer at Glenmoor, and while it was a great conversation, it made me realize that all of those people have huge egos.  I wonder what finally made Csere call it quits, seriously.
I'm sure we'll all get some sugar coated version.
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Byteme

Quote from: mojammer on December 18, 2008, 02:35:04 PM
Car Czar?  I really doubt it.  If there was one it'd be a biz guy, politician, or some mix of the two, not a car guy.  I threw that out as a joke, mainly because I like the sound of "Csaba Csere Car Czar" when you say it fast.   

I still think C/D has the best writing of any magazine out there.  It's on par with Top Gear's show (better than the TG magazines).  It's informative, but more importantly it's funny.  Not always, Csaba Csere wasn't that great of a writer IMO, but usually the articles have at least some zest to them.
I look at other magazines for specs and numbers, but for entertainment, it's C/D all the way. 
That doesn't say much for the other magazines does it?   

Pesonally I think Road and Track has the best writing.

mojammer

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Quote from: Byteme on December 19, 2008, 01:20:16 PM
I threw that out as a joke, mainly because I like the sound of "Csaba Csere Car Czar" when you say it fast.   

Ah, I thought maybe you had some inside scoop.

Laconian

Quote from: mojammer on December 19, 2008, 02:24:47 PM
Ah, I thought maybe you had some inside scoop.
It's enough of a lead to get him a gig as a cable news talking head.
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the Teuton

I just read my 2006 50th Anniversary Issue of C&D, and I came to two conclusions:

1) 2005 was the last great year for that magazine, especially that issue.

2) That magazine has fallen so quickly it isn't even funny.
2. 1995 Saturn SL2 5-speed, 126,500 miles. 5,000 miles in two and a half months. That works out to 24,000 miles per year if I can keep up the pace.

Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
You can take the troll out of the Subaru, but you can't take the Subaru out of the troll!

Soup DeVille

Quote from: the Teuton on December 19, 2008, 06:20:02 PM
I just read my 2006 50th Anniversary Issue of C&D, and I came to two conclusions:

1) 2005 was the last great year for that magazine, especially that issue.

2) That magazine has fallen so quickly it isn't even funny.

They changed format soon after.

I rmember those issues where they re-ran one story from each decade. Lots of good stuff there, I remember each story vividly, but all it did in the long term was highlight just how far the writing standards had fallen.

I still love John Phillips, but he is less of an automotive writer than a travel writer working for a car magazine.
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Quote from: Byteme on December 16, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
The real reason behind the resignation might surprise you.  Try to say this three times real fast.

Csaba Csere Car Czar.
ROFL

By the way his name is pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove." Hope this helps.
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C&D has really gone down the shitter ever since that frikkin format change.... ugh, whoever made that decision should be hung by their testicles
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Quote from: r0tor on December 23, 2008, 06:08:28 AM
C&D has really gone down the shitter ever since that frikkin format change.... ugh, whoever made that decision should be hung by their testicles
Maybe he just resigned?