GM Selling the Heart and Soul of an Untamed Beast...

Started by Lazerous, February 19, 2009, 09:19:42 PM

Lazerous

...but you're going to have to provide the body to put it in.....and twenty-one thousand clams.



General Motors did power junkies a solid when it announced at this past year's SEMA show that the famed LS9 engine will be offered as a crate motor. Because the LS9 was designed to live within the tight confines of the Corvette ZR1 engine bay, this engine should fit nicely into all manner of undeserving machinery, a fact that has made our minds reel with endless possibilities.

All that was before we heard the price. As much fun as it would be to drop a ready-made 630-hp supercharged whale-of-a-motor into, say, a Volvo 240 wagon, the $21,000 price tag is a bit of a buzzkill. To put it another way, the LS9 crate motor costs about the same as a base 2010 Ford Mustang. The high price isn't all that shocking, especially considering that Ford charges $17,699 for the 500-horsepower, supercharged 5.4L crate engine that's offered through its Ford Racing Catalog.

As our friends at Autofiends point out, though, anyone with a modicum of experience would be able to eke out even more ponies from a less exotic, standard LS-series engine, which can be had for a song if you're willing to look hard enough. Oh well, like many of the finer things in life, this crate motor is something to be enjoyed by only a limited few with deep pockets.

Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/19/ls9-crate-motor-costs-more-than-most-cars/

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Lazerous

Quote from: Secret Chimp on February 19, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
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Shell out $21k, build a 90 degree ramp, and you could take your Miata to the moon.

Eye of the Tiger

I don't like the styling - I mean, the unpainted black plastic trim just makes it look cheap, and the ribbing on the sides and roof is more Grand Am than Vette.
:rolleyes:
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Lazerous

Quote from: M_power on February 19, 2009, 09:23:59 PM
+1

Aren't you looking for a new engine?
Total sleeper my good man; that 911 GT3 won't see what hit it.

Rupert

Modern engines ain't pretty. Looks like we're just supposed the think, "ah, it's magic!"
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Soup DeVille

It could use a nice set of long primary equal length headers, if only for aesthetics purposes.

Still, that's a lot of grunt, and sure to be found in a hig-end hotrod near you this summer, and the price isn't bas as far as top crate motors go.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Lazerous

Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 19, 2009, 09:34:44 PM
It could use a nice set of long primary equal length headers, if only for aesthetics purposes.

Still, that's a lot of grunt, and sure to be found in a hig-end hotrod near you this summer, and the price isn't bas as far as top crate motors go.

No! I want to see this thing dropped into a Smart. :devil:
Granted its body panels will have to be reinforced with a lot of duct tape to keep them from flying off.

sandertheshark

I'd still rather play with an LS7 crate.

And a big fat pair of turbos.

And a gutted '69 Stingray...

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ChrisV

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 20, 2009, 01:42:04 PM
Ariel Atom.


:-)

That would essentially be the Deronda G on steroids:



1900 lbs and a 500 hp LS7. ;)
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the Teuton

Hook it up to a Porsche G50 transmission, and you'd be set.  Of course, you wouldn't have any tires by the time you get moving, but that's just a semantics issue.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: ChrisV on February 20, 2009, 01:47:43 PM
That would essentially be the Deronda G on steroids:



1900 lbs and a 500 hp LS7. ;)

1900 lbs? What a fat pig. Swift only weighs 1814.
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#18
Quote from: NACar on February 19, 2009, 09:25:35 PM
I don't like the styling - I mean, the unpainted black plastic trim just makes it look cheap, and the ribbing on the sides and roof is more Grand Am than Vette.
:rolleyes:


LOL


Seriously though, cool motor.  I find myself enamored of the exhaust manifolds.  For a factory piece those look like they would flow quite well.

Rupert

Those are the only part that looks like an engine, so, me too. :lol:
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FlatBlackCaddy


Soup DeVille

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 20, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
:huh:

I thought pushrods engines were cheap.


Find a new 630 HP OHC engine that will pass emissions any cheaper.
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GoCougs

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on February 20, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
:huh:

I thought pushrods engines were cheap.


Not necessarily - fewer parts, but we mustn't forget labor.

For example, OHC engines are more conducive to batch processing; the valvetrain can be dressed and prepped separate from the block.

CJ

"All that was before we heard the price. As much fun as it would be to drop a ready-made 630-hp supercharged whale-of-a-motor into, say, a Volvo 240 wagon, the $21,000 price tag is a bit of a buzzkill."

Rupert

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Rupert

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sportyaccordy

Man that is sick...

But I wonder what could be done with even just $10K to cover for the $4K or so for an LS1 motor + tranny, and goodies

I really want an LS1 in an E36 body. That is my "thing" now....

hotrodalex

I'll take a 572 that makes more power, doesn't use forced induction, and is about $8k cheaper according to a quick google search.

the Teuton

Quote from: hotrodalex on February 21, 2009, 11:36:02 AM
I'll take a 572 that makes more power, doesn't use forced induction, and is about $8k cheaper according to a quick google search.

Wouldn't the 572 be a bit bigger and heavier?
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Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
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