1999 Grand Voyager Problem

Started by 2o6, March 21, 2009, 02:26:56 PM

2o6

This is the car I will be learning on, so it needs to get fixed ASAP.

It's got a bad problem with leaking coolant. After short drives around the corner, it heats up. It could be a number of problems:

Hole in Radiator (not too hard, nor expensive)

Cracked Head (Bad)

or it could be something else altogether.


This car is a 1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager with the 3.8L V6.

93JC

Check all of the hoses, they're usually the first things to go on a cooling system.

FoMoJo

Quote from: 93JC on March 21, 2009, 02:31:46 PM
Check all of the hoses, they're usually the first things to go on a cooling system.
Gaskets?  Are there puddles of coolent underneath?
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You're learning on a Grand Voyager?  Good luck. 
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3.0L V6

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2009, 02:26:56 PM
This is the car I will be learning on, so it needs to get fixed ASAP.

It's got a bad problem with leaking coolant. After short drives around the corner, it heats up. It could be a number of problems:

Hole in Radiator (not too hard, nor expensive)

Cracked Head (Bad)

or it could be something else altogether.


This car is a 1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager with the 3.8L V6.


Hoses and radiator would be my first bet. Leaking water pump would be my second.

Cracked head usually results in milkshake looking oil and/or oil in the coolant. The 3.8 isn't known for cracking heads either.



Laconian

I think there's some stuff you can dump in the coolant that will patch minor holes in the radiator. It might be worth a shot.
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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Laconian on March 21, 2009, 11:27:41 PM
I think there's some stuff you can dump in the coolant that will patch minor holes in the radiator. It might be worth a shot.

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Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 2o6 on March 21, 2009, 02:26:56 PM
This is the car I will be learning on, so it needs to get fixed ASAP.

It's got a bad problem with leaking coolant. After short drives around the corner, it heats up. It could be a number of problems:

Hole in Radiator (not too hard, nor expensive)

Cracked Head (Bad)

or it could be something else altogether.


This car is a 1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager with the 3.8L V6.

Fun for you. I learnt on a Voyager, too; but an older one with the super dooper Mitsu 3.0.

WHERE IS THE LEEK

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT "HEETS UP AFTER A SHORT DRIVE AROUND THE CORNER"

Is the radiator cap tight?
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2o6

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=18102.msg1024516#msg1024516 date=1237669881
You're learning on a Grand Voyager?  Good luck. 


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2o6

Yeah, I'll run these potential solutions by my dad.

Madman

The overheating could be down to a stuck thermostat.  That's the first thing I'd check.


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Laconian

Quote from: Madman on March 23, 2009, 09:41:46 PM
The overheating could be down to a stuck thermostat.  That's the first thing I'd check.

Stuck thermostats stick open, no?
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Madman

Quote from: Laconian on March 23, 2009, 11:20:24 PM
Stuck thermostats stick open, no?


Not always.  I had one stick closed.  The pressure from the closed thermostat actually blew the radiator!

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S204STi

The overheating is due to the coolant leak most likely, though while you're repairing the leak you might as well also replace the thermostat and radiator cap to ensure proper cooling system operation when you're done.

Look for leaks at the intake manifold gasket and the water pump.  Those are the two most common sources of leaks on vehicles with "wet" intake manifolds.  Also check out the radiator of course.

AutobahnSHO

Get out and look for leaks while it's running.

On the plus side, if you learn to parallel that van, you can parallel most anything. (I can mine.  ;) )

Also, you'll think you're in a Porsche when you get into anything smaller- the difference is KRAZY. Although these vans are better than the first ones, (I had a 1992 also,)
-steering is still soft
-brakes are still weak. (DON'T expect to be racing anyone, and just be careful!)
-it's LONG. careful w/ curbs and the rear wheels.
-acceleration is obviously on the slow side because it's heavy.
Will

ifcar

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 29, 2009, 05:23:11 AM

On the plus side, if you learn to parallel that van, you can parallel most anything.

I learned to parallel park on the Caravan, and it took extra practice to learn how to do it in a smaller car with a trunk.



AutobahnSHO

Quote from: ifcar on March 29, 2009, 07:13:33 AM
I learned to parallel park on the Caravan, and it took extra practice to learn how to do it in a smaller car with a trunk.

driver's ed fail

LOL
j/k- I can see that now that you say it.
Will

2o6

I think it may be the radiator. There's no puddle underneath, and it seemingly runs "straight out", but only when the car is running. Never does it leak when the car is stationary.

the Teuton

Quote from: Raza  on March 21, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
You're learning on a Grand Voyager?  Good luck. 

I have a friend who took his maneuverability test in a long-bed F-150 (it's fairly different than the parallel parking in Pa -- a little more intensive) and another who took the driving test in a Tahoe Z71.
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S204STi

Quote from: 2o6 on May 29, 2009, 09:05:37 AM
I think it may be the radiator. There's no puddle underneath, and it seemingly runs "straight out", but only when the car is running. Never does it leak when the car is stationary.

Are you sure you're not burning it?

2o6


S204STi

Quote from: 2o6 on May 29, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
I have no clue.

If you can't find a leak, yet it's losing coolant, I'd start checking that out.  A mechanic should be able to discover that for you.

giant_mtb

If it's burning, he should definitely smell something bitter-sweet, no? :huh:

S204STi

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 29, 2009, 10:34:38 PM
If it's burning, he should definitely smell something bitter-sweet, no? :huh:

Not necessarily.  Had a G5 in this week that was leaking a fair amount of coolant into cylinders 2 and 3, but you could never tell from the exhaust.  Just idled kinda rough.

S204STi

Also, if it's an intake leak it could just be settling at the bottom of the oil pan, or pooling in the intake plenum and slowly burning off.

AutobahnSHO

Quote from: R-inge on May 29, 2009, 10:48:14 PM
Also, if it's an intake leak it could just be settling at the bottom of the oil pan, or pooling in the intake plenum and slowly burning off.

When my SHO blew up, I let it sit a couple weeks. When I finally pulled the oil plug about a gallon of antifreeze came out first it SMELLED like you wouldn't believe!!! 

Wouldn't coolant burning off make some kind of smoke??
Will

S204STi

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 31, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
When my SHO blew up, I let it sit a couple weeks. When I finally pulled the oil plug about a gallon of antifreeze came out first it SMELLED like you wouldn't believe!!! 

Wouldn't coolant burning off make some kind of smoke??

Sometimes.

2o6

The rear wheels are locked. This isn't a problem is it? After all, the car has been sitting for almost three months.

SVT_Power

Quote from: 2o6 on June 07, 2009, 06:18:17 PM
The rear wheels are locked. This isn't a problem is it? After all, the car has been sitting for almost three months.

Of course it's a problem. What do you mean it's not a problem  :confused:

Unless you meant "this isn't a problem that's hard to solve is it"
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2o6

Quote from: SVT_Power on June 07, 2009, 06:28:39 PM
Of course it's a problem. What do you mean it's not a problem  :confused:

Unless you meant "this isn't a problem that's hard to solve is it"

Well, the car has been sitting for three months..........a bit of work (moving) will clear this up, right?