I need a new car

[the Teuton]

Zee Germans aren't particularly reliable.  The VQ might as well be a tank engine because it runs like one.  It will not die.

My vote is G35 6-speed.  Close thread.

Spend under $15,000 for a fast, luxurious sports coupe and you can work on it yourself.

[nickdrinkwater]

Zee Germans aren't particularly reliable.  The VQ might as well be a tank engine because it runs like one.  It will not die.

My vote is G35 6-speed.  Close thread.

Spend under $15,000 for a fast, luxurious sports coupe and you can work on it yourself.

Doesn't he want a 4 door?

[BimmerM3]

Doesn't he want a 4 door?

EDIT: I didn't see that Teuton specified coupe. Either way, he can get a G35 6-speed sedan.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-Infiniti-G35-6sp-Pearl-White-Sunroof-Spoiler-MINT_W0QQitemZ170323710920QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item170323710920&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1308

[Onslaught]

I'm wanting new. I'm a perfectionist's and way beyond anal. Almost to the point of needing professional help probably.  When I have a used car I can't stand all the little imperfections and stuff on the inside and out and will spend insane money trying to make it perfect again. I didn't get the MX-5 new and all the little nicks that I would have never put in the interior drive me nuts even after 12+ years latter.

As for working on it I'd like a warranty for a few years. I don't want to work on a car after I get home from work on cars all day long. I hate working on cars to tell the truth. But 6-10 years from now when something will eventually go wrong with it I'd like for it to be something that I'm familiar with.

[Eye of the Tiger]

[the Teuton]

I'm wanting new. I'm a perfectionist's and way beyond anal. Almost to the point of needing professional help probably.  When I have a used car I can't stand all the little imperfections and stuff on the inside and out and will spend insane money trying to make it perfect again. I didn't get the MX-5 new and all the little nicks that I would have never put in the interior drive me nuts even after 12+ years latter.

As for working on it I'd like a warranty for a few years. I don't want to work on a car after I get home from work on cars all day long. I hate working on cars to tell the truth. But 6-10 years from now when something will eventually go wrong with it I'd like for it to be something that I'm familiar with.

G37.

Does it seem like I'm trolling?  I wouldn't recommend a BMW or Audi to anyone keeping it past the warranty period.

[Vinsanity]

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Although the G37 does sound like the best choice for you thus far.

[Eye of the Tiger]

[sportyaccordy]

Why new? G35 coupe is about as good as the G37, but is more efficient and about 10-15K less.

Plus you already have a coupe. A stiffly sprung, loud, cramped up coupe. With each of the cars listed, outside of the 328i they all have at least one of those negative qualifiers. If you're gonna keep the Miata, I would go with something completely on the other side of the spectrum, or at least a 4 door with a legitimate back seat.

[BimmerM3]

Why new?

I'm wanting new. I'm a perfectionist's and way beyond anal. Almost to the point of needing professional help probably.  When I have a used car I can't stand all the little imperfections and stuff on the inside and out and will spend insane money trying to make it perfect again. I didn't get the MX-5 new and all the little nicks that I would have never put in the interior drive me nuts even after 12+ years latter.

[Onslaught]

I've not listed any coupes. I want a 4 door. And I don't want used.

[the Teuton]

If you're going to keep it for 10 years, don't get a German car unless you want to pay $300 when your driveshaft bushing goes out at 150,000 miles (not including labor) or pay $1,500 for some absurd electronic deficiency.  They're great cars, but they're not great old cars anymore like the bulletproof E30s.  They have too many things in them that do go wrong.

G37, IS250, Cadillac CTS, Pontiac G8 GXP or something.

[Minpin]

I've not listed any coupes. I want a 4 door. And I don't want used.

What do you think about a G35 Coupe? 

I second the Cadillac CTS though. That is what I would buy.

[Minpin]

If you're going to keep it for 10 years, don't get a German car unless you want to pay $300 when your driveshaft bushing goes out at 150,000 miles or pay $1,500 for some absurd electronic deficiency.  They're great cars, but they're not great old cars anymore like the bulletproof E30s.  They have too many things in them that do go wrong.

G37, IS250, Cadillac CTS, Pontiac G8 GXP or something.

Holy shit not $300 at 150,000 miles!

Come on teuton, use your head. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I second the Cadillac CTS though. That is what I would buy.

I agree. The G37 is nice also.

[Onslaught]

According to their site the CTS starts at around 37K. That's more then I want to spend. And it kind of looks like a brick to me.

[Minpin]

According to their site the CTS starts at around 37K. That's more then I want to spend. And it kind of looks like a brick to me.

You could negotiate a very good deal on any Cadillac at this point. But if you don't like the looks none of that matters.

[Onslaught]

You could negotiate a very good deal on any Cadillac at this point. But if you don't like the looks none of that matters.

It's not ugly. But I don't love it. But I don't love the looks of any 4 door so I'll look into it.

[the Teuton]

Holy shit not $300 at 150,000 miles!

Come on teuton, use your head. 

That's just for the part.  Labor is about $1,000 -- or so sayeth the BMW dealer for my friend's M3 back home.  And the roommate with the M3 here keeps having his driveshaft bolt back out.  It's a pain in the ass and a safety hazard.

And the iDrive thing -- $1,500 to fix that piece of crap.  Oil changes need BMW's software to reset the computer.  You can't check your oil, and it's just not the way to go, imo, of course. 

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

According to their site the CTS starts at around 37K. That's more then I want to spend. And it kind of looks like a brick to me.

I would go with the G37 then!

[Onslaught]

If you're going to keep it for 10 years, don't get a German car unless you want to pay $300 when your driveshaft bushing goes out at 150,000 miles (not including labor) or pay $1,500 for some absurd electronic deficiency.  They're great cars, but they're not great old cars anymore like the bulletproof E30s.  They have too many things in them that do go wrong.

G37, IS250, Cadillac CTS, Pontiac G8 GXP or something.

That's why I don't see myself in a BMW. I have two friends that are BMW nuts and that's all they'll drive. And they seem to have many little problems here and there that I would never put up with when they get a few years on them.

[nickdrinkwater]

Mazda 6 MPS?

[Onslaught]

Mazda 6 MPS?

If they still made the MS6 then I'd get that. But they don't.

[BimmerM3]

That's just for the part.  Labor is about $1,000 -- or so sayeth the BMW dealer for my friend's M3 back home.  And the roommate with the M3 here keeps having his driveshaft bolt back out.  It's a pain in the ass and a safety hazard.

And the iDrive thing -- $1,500 to fix that piece of crap.  Oil changes need BMW's software to reset the computer.  You can't check your oil, and it's just not the way to go, imo, of course. 

If a $1200 repair bill once every 10 years is going to break your bank, you probably shouldn't be buying a brand new $35,000 car to begin with. I'm not saying it's not a lot, but if I really liked the car better, it'd probably be worth it.

[the Teuton]

If a $1200 repair bill once every 10 years is going to break your bank, you probably shouldn't be buying a brand new $35,000 car to begin with. I'm not saying it's not a lot, but if I really liked the car better, it'd probably be worth it.

Another problem area with current BMWs:  power steering pumps, fuel level sensors, brake pads wearing out quickly (well, they're soft, so they just kinda do...), the tires suck, theft and vandalism, insurance...

But besides those and a few other problems, they're wonderful cars.

[AutobahnSHO]

I got yer 4-door right here. 

BUT
Pricing will be rough for a while, (because of initial demand,) and you have to wait at while still...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAhxz9fcgmE&feature=related

[CALL_911]

Another problem area with current BMWs:  power steering pumps, fuel level sensors, brake pads wearing out quickly (well, they're soft, so they just kinda do...), the tires suck, theft and vandalism, insurance...

But besides those and a few other problems, they're wonderful cars.

Our power steering pump gave out in the warranty period. The brake pads aren't really a huge deal, considering they're wear and tear items anyway. The tires, well, just opt out of the RFTs. Theft and vandalism, yeah, but any luxury car is prone to that. Insurance, well, you're spending $36k.

[MrH]

Taurus SHO is auto only.

Only the non-direct injection CTS is available with a manual.  I'd go with a G37 definitely.

Why new? G35 coupe is about as good as the G37, but is more efficient and about 10-15K less.

Plus you already have a coupe. A stiffly sprung, loud, cramped up coupe. With each of the cars listed, outside of the 328i they all have at least one of those negative qualifiers. If you're gonna keep the Miata, I would go with something completely on the other side of the spectrum, or at least a 4 door with a legitimate back seat.

Read the fucking thread!!!

[nickdrinkwater]

Another problem area with current BMWs:  power steering pumps, fuel level sensors, brake pads wearing out quickly (well, they're soft, so they just kinda do...), the tires suck, theft and vandalism, insurance...

But besides those and a few other problems, they're wonderful cars.

The anti BMW thing is getting a bit tiring.  All cars have advantages and disadvantages - is it a big deal to replace brake pads slightly more often.

Re: vandalism and insurance, those are two things that are nothing to do with the cars, they are circumstance.  You could say that about any car.

[MrH]

The anti BMW thing is getting a bit tiring.  All cars have advantages and disadvantages - is it a big deal to replace brake pads slightly more often.

Re: vandalism and insurance, those are two things that are nothing to do with the cars, they are circumstance.  You could say that about any car.

+1.  And you don't need to use factory brake pads....