The New Lacrosse needs to see Jenny Craig!

[the Teuton]

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0909_2010_buick_lacrosse_cxs_test/specs.html

Overall, Motor Trend gave it a pretty favorable review.  It's almost as good as the ES, which means it's not good enough.  Somehow, GM just has a way of putting enough GM-iness into their overall solid products to turn them into "Always contenders, never champions."

I want to see this car succeed.  I want to see GM make world-class products.  And as someone who's spent hundreds of miles behind the wheel of a basic LaCrosse CX and a more upscale CXL just recently at work, I think it's a solidly good car.  But it's never been a great car.

So here's to another "good" car cum second-rate star.  Cheers, GM.  Cheers.

And BTW, the weight on this thing -- 4,161 for a FWD CXS -- is just immense.  Simply unacceptable, imo.

[Raza]

No one who buys it is going to notice the weight. 

I pushed a Lacrosse to the limit when it first came out.  It was a good car.  To this day, no one has driven a Buick as hard as I have (with the possible exception of Grand Nationals).  No one is going to notice.

[the Teuton]

You're right.  I guess I'm just perturbed by the weight.  I generally think lighter means more nimble, so as someone who likes the car and thought the car was a little sporty in a Regal sort of way, I just was hoping it would be a bit more nimble than numb.

[Eye of the Tiger]

No one who buys it is going to notice the weight. 

I pushed a Lacrosse to the limit when it first came out.  It was a good car.  To this day, no one has driven a Buick as hard as I have (with the possible exception of Grand Nationals).  No one is going to notice.

You are forgetting that my second car was a '91 Skylark with the 3.3L V6. Way too much power for that chassis. 

[ifcar]

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0909_2010_buick_lacrosse_cxs_test/specs.html

Overall, Motor Trend gave it a pretty favorable review.  It's almost as good as the ES, which means it's not good enough.  Somehow, GM just has a way of putting enough GM-iness into their overall solid products to turn them into "Always contenders, never champions."

I want to see this car succeed.  I want to see GM make world-class products.  And as someone who's spent hundreds of miles behind the wheel of a basic LaCrosse CX and a more upscale CXL just recently at work, I think it's a solidly good car.  But it's never been a great car.

So here's to another "good" car cum second-rate star.  Cheers, GM.  Cheers.

And BTW, the weight on this thing -- 4,161 for a FWD CXS -- is just immense.  Simply unacceptable, imo.

It's more Avalon than ES anyway, in terms of size, price, and market positioning.

[2o6]

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0909_2010_buick_lacrosse_cxs_test/specs.html

Overall, Motor Trend gave it a pretty favorable review.  It's almost as good as the ES, which means it's not good enough.  Somehow, GM just has a way of putting enough GM-iness into their overall solid products to turn them into "Always contenders, never champions."

I want to see this car succeed.  I want to see GM make world-class products.  And as someone who's spent hundreds of miles behind the wheel of a basic LaCrosse CX and a more upscale CXL just recently at work, I think it's a solidly good car.  But it's never been a great car.

So here's to another "good" car cum second-rate star.  Cheers, GM.  Cheers.

And BTW, the weight on this thing -- 4,161 for a FWD CXS -- is just immense.  Simply unacceptable, imo.

4,161 lbs for a close to full size car is OK...........on second thought, the Avalon is at 3600LBS.....


And why are you dismissing the LaCrosse when it got favorable reviews!?

[Eye of the Tiger]

10 lbs less than the Rodeo!

[Raza]

You are forgetting that my second car was a '91 Skylark with the 3.3L V6. Way too much power for that chassis. 

Oh, I didn't know that!  My friend's first car was a 91 Regal Custom.  Even then, I think I edged him out.

[MX793]

Seems a number of GM's newer vehicles are packing on the pounds.  The new Caddy SRX weighs something like 4500 lbs.  Isn't that thing based on the Equinox?  It's not a big vehicle.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Seems a number of GM's newer vehicles are packing on the pounds.  The new Caddy SRX weighs something like 4500 lbs.  Isn't that thing based on the Equinox?  It's not a big vehicle.

It's the government's doing.

[2o6]

Seems a number of GM's newer vehicles are packing on the pounds.  The new Caddy SRX weighs something like 4500 lbs.  Isn't that thing based on the Equinox?  It's not a big vehicle.

It doesn't share that much with the Equinox.

[Laconian]

It's the government's doing.

Mazda seems to be doing a pretty good job of meeting regulations and keeping off the flab. I chalk it up to lazy engineering from GM.

[68_427]

You are forgetting that my second car was a '91 Skylark with the 3.3L V6. Way too much power for that chassis. 

We've got a bright red '96 with rev happy race quad cam 2.4L.  Shit is faSt!

[Eye of the Tiger]

Mazda seems to be doing a pretty good job of meeting regulations and keeping off the flab. I chalk it up to lazy engineering from GM.

Exactly, the government owns GM now.

[Raza]

Mazda seems to be doing a pretty good job of meeting regulations and keeping off the flab. I chalk it up to lazy engineering from GM.

Mazda = Fords + Ugly bodykits - Government Money.

[2o6]

Mazda seems to be doing a pretty good job of meeting regulations and keeping off the flab. I chalk it up to lazy engineering from GM.

VW would be a more apt comparison. VW is roughly the same caliber of GM. VW also does some heavy platform sharing, and their cars tend to be heavy.

[the Teuton]

4,161 lbs for a close to full size car is OK...........on second thought, the Avalon is at 3600LBS.....


And why are you dismissing the LaCrosse when it got favorable reviews!?

Because most everything reviewed gets initially favorable reviews.  GM needs home runs, and they're only hitting line drives to the corner in the outfield, hoping they can clear the bases. 

The company disappoints me with mediocrity at times.  Give it 6 months into normal production, and it will already be a comparo has been.

[Eye of the Tiger]

VW would be a more apt comparison. VW is roughly the same caliber of GM. VW also does some heavy platform sharing, and their cars tend to be heavy.

You shut your whore mouth

[Onslaught]

Mazda = Fords + Ugly bodykits - Government Money.

Don't make me hit you.

[Raza]

Don't make me hit you.

My new thing is simple, slightly inaccurate explanations.

[AutobahnSHO]

My new thing is simple, slightly inaccurate explanations.

looked good to me.   

[ChrisV]

You're right.  I guess I'm just perturbed by the weight.  I generally think lighter means more nimble, so as someone who likes the car and thought the car was a little sporty in a Regal sort of way, I just was hoping it would be a bit more nimble than numb.

While true, even my 11 year old E38 weighs in at almost 4300 lbs, and it feels quite nimble when pushed in the twisties.

[Schadenfreude]

I do have a question though: How big is this new Lacrosse in comparison to the Regal that GM is also going to produce?  If they're the same size (or if by some chance the Regal ends up better than the Lacrosse) wouldn't that mean that one of the models is redundant?

[ifcar]

I do have a question though: How big is this new Lacrosse in comparison to the Regal that GM is also going to produce?  If they're the same size (or if by some chance the Regal ends up better than the Lacrosse) wouldn't that mean that one of the models is redundant?

The Regal is midsize, this is full-size. The redundant car is the Lucerne.

[the Teuton]

The Regal is midsize, this is full-size. The redundant car is the Lucerne.

The Lucerne was redundant on so many levels...

[ifcar]

The Lucerne was redundant on so many levels...

Not when the LaCrosse was cramped it wasn't.

[the Teuton]

Not when the LaCrosse was cramped it wasn't.

But then is was basically a DTS without the garb (and the price tag!!).

[GoCougs]

Used the same font on the speedo as the Camaro...

All in all, it's what it is supposed to be.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

While true, even my 11 year old E38 weighs in at almost 4300 lbs, and it feels quite nimble when pushed in the twisties.

Your car has the added benefit of the bmw badge. Which means it received some of the best suspension tuning in the world for a stock car.

I've felt 3500lb grand prixs that reminded me of a obese pig wallowing in the mud. The good thing is i expect very little from GM, so i'm sure they will surpass my expectations(and the expectations of the general public).

[Atomic]

raz, what the hell prompted you to take a BUICK lacrosse for a spin?! lol  !