My Paint Project From Hell

Started by Rupert, May 14, 2012, 12:48:56 AM

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Secret Chimp

Some "before" pictures would be boffo.


Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on January 02, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
That's a great local brewery that we have. Do I drink their beer? No.

Rupert

Don't have them. I was gonna do it, but then I forgot.
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Quote from: Rupert on June 28, 2012, 01:56:54 AM
Don't have them. I was gonna do it, but then I forgot.

Go undo your paint job so we can see.

Rupert

Don't think Porsche put a Ctrl-Z button on the car... It was made in the '80s, after all.
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I'm curious about cracky whacky dashboard now.


Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on January 02, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
That's a great local brewery that we have. Do I drink their beer? No.

MrH

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Rupert

Dashboard looks pretty bad. Marginally better than it was before, but still pretty bad. I'm thinking of getting some kind of vinyl wrap for it, like this: http://www.rvinyl.com/Leather-Vinyl-Film-Wrap-Black.html.
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MrH

Got a pic of your IP?  I forget what 944 IP's look like.

I'd highly advise against that stuff.  If your IP has any contours to it, it's going to look like garbage.  Let me design a sexy polyurethane skin for it!  Put some contrasting french seams all over it in the same color as the exterior :lol:
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Rupert

IP? Speak English, man! :lol:

The advantage of the wrap is I can apply it with the dash in the car. If I have to pull the dash, I'll just get a new one or get mine properly wrapped in actual leather.
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Quote from: Rupert on June 28, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
IP? Speak English, man! :lol:

The advantage of the wrap is I can apply it with the dash in the car. If I have to pull the dash, I'll just get a new one or get mine properly wrapped in actual leather.

IP = Instrument panel.

Real leather is crazy expensive, btw.  Probably looking at over $125 just for the material.  It's really difficult to work with too.  I doubt you'd even be able to find someone who'd do it for you.

If it's cracked, how is a razor thing vinyl wrap going to cover that?  It'll show right through.
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Rupert

Ah.



http://www.classic9leathershop.com/

That guy has a leather dash kit for the 944, and will install it for you. Of course, it's big time $Texas.

Cracks are filled, and I can level out the surface further.
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MrH

So it's just those small vertical cracks?  That's not too bad.  I think those vinyl wraps are cheesy, but your call :lol:

Hard to tell from the picture, but getting that on there completely smooth looks to be quite a challenge.
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It would be $600 for vinyl/$700 for leather + ~$200 shipping + time for me to remove and install the dash. Not completely ridiculous, but still $$$.

Quote from: MrH on June 28, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
So it's just those small vertical cracks?  That's not too bad.  I think those vinyl wraps are cheesy, but your call :lol:

Hard to tell from the picture, but getting that on there completely smooth looks to be quite a challenge.

No, that's not actually my dash. Mine has got much worse cracks than that, but that is the style and color.

That are a little cheesy, for sure. Less cheesy than the plastic cover they sell, for sure. I'm not sure what would look best, other than the expensive method, above. I wish someone made a vinyl cover kit like those carpet cover kits. (*hint* Mr. Interior Man!).
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Quote from: Rupert on June 28, 2012, 02:36:54 PM
It would be $600 for vinyl/$700 for leather + ~$200 shipping + time for me to remove and install the dash. Not completely ridiculous, but still $$$.

No, that's not actually my dash. Mine has got much worse cracks than that, but that is the style and color.

That are a little cheesy, for sure. Less cheesy than the plastic cover they sell, for sure. I'm not sure what would look best, other than the expensive method, above. I wish someone made a vinyl cover kit like those carpet cover kits. (*hint* Mr. Interior Man!).

$600 for vinyl?!  Lolz.

I do have access to a ton of stuff, and I just spent all day wrapping prototype parts for a soon-to-be-released vehicle (check the blog at 12:01 AM April 9th, 2013 for details!)...

Difficult to do without having any 3D CAD data for your car though.  If I had it physically in front of me I could probably get something to work.
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Quote from: MrH on June 28, 2012, 03:04:49 PM
$600 for vinyl?!  Lolz.

I do have access to a ton of stuff, and I just spent all day wrapping prototype parts for a soon-to-be-released vehicle (check the blog at 12:01 AM April 9th, 2013 for details!)...

Difficult to do without having any 3D CAD data for your car though.

No, $280 or something for the vinyl, $600 for the vinyl installed. I would probably spring for leather, anyway.

And I wouldn't have a clue where to get CAD data for this (or any) car.
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Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 28, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
Industry terms. What a fancy pants. :lol:

Heh, just be glad I don't spring GOV acronyms on you guys every chance I get... :lol:
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Quote from: Rupert on June 28, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
Heh, just be glad I don't spring GOV acronyms on you guys every chance I get... :lol:

Yeah, and if I say the photometrics on this rear combi RR are no good, you might be confused too.

MrH

Quote from: Rupert on June 28, 2012, 03:11:12 PM
No, $280 or something for the vinyl, $600 for the vinyl installed. I would probably spring for leather, anyway.

And I wouldn't have a clue where to get CAD data for this (or any) car.

From Porsche :lol:  Actually, was 3D CAD even around when they designed your car?

$280 for vinyl is still outrageous for price.  Vinyl is the basement bin of materials for car interiors for the most part.  I guess if you're buying in small batches, but still...I would have guessed $40-$50 in material at most.
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Quote from: MrH on June 28, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
From Porsche :lol:  Actually, was 3D CAD even around when they designed your car?


Yes. But it sucked.

Rupert

Quote from: MrH on June 28, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
From Porsche :lol:  Actually, was 3D CAD even around when they designed your car?

$280 for vinyl is still outrageous for price.  Vinyl is the basement bin of materials for car interiors for the most part.  I guess if you're buying in small batches, but still...I would have guessed $40-$50 in material at most.

I assume it's nice vinyl, and it is sewn into a particular shape. So, $70 material (still a lot), two hours cutting and sewing, and I think these are all made to order. I don't think it's ridiculous, but it is obviously not cheap.

Go call Porsche! :lol:
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what's his sew lines look like?  Did you find a pic of a 944 he's done?  I can't navigate his website designed by a 12 year old in '98.
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Yeah, it's a shiiittty website. If I were any good at making websites, I'd offer a trade for the public good. Yeesh.

There are some photos, and it all looks good. Sew lines are clean and straight. I got a leather console cover from him, and it's really nice (though the color is ever so slightly off).
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