Golf VII GTI

[2o6]

Only if he's done with his homework...

It's a Nautica edition, too!

[Eye of the Tiger]

It's a Nautica edition, too!

This deserves a spot in your favourite Nissan thread!

[Char]

People, who speak the most, usually have the least to say - You have almost 20k post, and it's hard to imagine that your nonsensical drivel has been tolerated this long.
http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/2012%20ProSolo%20Points%20Atlantic%20Zone5.pdf

Find me a VW GTI in a stock class that's a front runner. Or any VW for that matter.

[2o6]

This deserves a spot in your favourite Nissan thread!

Didn't it have a Ford engine, though?

People, who speak the most, usually have the least to say - You have almost 20k post, and it's hard to imagine that your nonsensical drivel has been tolerated this long.
http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/2012%20ProSolo%20Points%20Atlantic%20Zone5.pdf

Find me a VW GTI in a stock class that's a front runner. Or any VW for that matter.

What do you drive?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Didn't it have a Ford engine, though?

What do you drive?

No, the Villager was all Nissan. Ford built the Windturd.

[2o6]

No, the Villager was all Nissan. Ford built the Windturd.

Is there a VQ in that van? 

[Eye of the Tiger]

Is there a VQ in that van? 

No, the same weak lump that my Pathfinder had.

[2o6]

No, the same weak lump that my Pathfinder had.

Awh.


Buy one and autocross it!

[MX793]

PAX = Driver, not the car. But older Civics/Honda's are known to be excellent. The new ones not as much. Slow boring appliances that I treat as such.

This was a newer generation (~2006) model.  And you have to use PAX because, let's face it, a G Stock car isn't going to keep up with an F-mod or K-mod in raw time.  Looking at our last event, his raw time trumped a pair of D-stock cars (which is a faster class than G-stock), also in the X-pro class, by a second on a sub-50-second course.  In fact, his raw time was the fastest of any stock car there, and the only 3 cars that beat him in raw time were an F-mod (the aforementioned 500cc kart), a K-mod/F125 kart, and a street mod Lancer Evo (that was trailered in, so I'm guessing not streetable).

[Eye of the Tiger]

Awh.


Buy one and autocross it!

But you cannot autocross or have fun in anything but a true sports car....

[MX793]

Is there a VQ in that van? 

No, they had the older VG engine.

[Cookie Monster]

I used to see the Nissan Quest/Mercury Villager all the time! Now it's been ages since I've seen one of those heaps and it makes me sad.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I used to see the Nissan Quest/Mercury Villager all the time! Now it's been ages since I've seen one of those heaps and it makes me sad.

They were quite popular in their first year. And that's about it.

[Laconian]

My friend's dad was super proud of his Villager and got *****super***** pissed when someone broke a little tab from a plastic drinkholder.

[Cookie Monster]

They were quite popular in their first year. And that's about it.

I used to see them all the time in the early to mid '00's. Now they don't even show up at the local WalMart parking lots.

[2o6]

I used to see the Nissan Quest/Mercury Villager all the time! Now it's been ages since I've seen one of those heaps and it makes me sad.

They were quite popular in their first year. And that's about it.

Many people forget there was a second generation....

[Raza]

Nothing VW makes can be considered awesome if you actually enjoy driving your car.

How horribly misinformed...or trollish, whichever you prefer to call it.

[MX793]

I used to see them all the time in the early to mid '00's. Now they don't even show up at the local WalMart parking lots.

You can find pretty much anything at a WalMart or BJ's parking lot.  I've seen everything from Yugos to NSXs at those stores.

[Char]

How horribly misinformed...or trollish, whichever you prefer to call it.

And what vague arbitrary criteria do you base cars on that you would call a GTI a sporty car? We are talking about a car without a real LSD and undefeatable stability control system.  If you, self-proclaimed purist, one who prides himself on being able to drive manual transmission (a feat matched by 16 year old girls all throughout Europe) and detest driving aids, defends that, it?s YOU who must be misinformed or trolling.

[2o6]

And what vague arbitrary criteria do you base cars on that you would call a GTI a sporty car? We are talking about a car without a real LSD and undefeatable stability control system.  If you, self-proclaimed purist, one who prides himself on being able to drive manual transmission (a feat matched by 16 year old girls all throughout Europe) and detest driving aids, defends that, it?s YOU who must be misinformed or trolling.

What do you drive again?

[Char]

What do you drive again?

Ad Hominem
1.
appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2.
attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

I don't like the VW Golf (or any VW product to be honest), and what I drive (none of which are VW products) has anything to do with my opinion on specific automobiles. I told you my criteria for a sporty car, the VW doesn't meet any of those.

[2o6]

Villager.

[CJ]

I like the VW GTI because the interior is a nice place to be, it's relatively good to drive, I like the sound the doors make, it has good headlights, the wheels are nice, I like the turn signal stalk, etc.  I like the GTI because it feels like a real car. 

[850CSi]

I told you my criteria for a sporty car, the VW doesn't meet any of those.

Boxster is no longer a sporty car. Who knew!?

[2o6]

Boxster is no longer a sporty car. Who knew!?

Only thing that is sporty is a Viper ACR! And that is far too plebeian for our friend here.

[Raza]

And what vague arbitrary criteria do you base cars on that you would call a GTI a sporty car? We are talking about a car without a real LSD and undefeatable stability control system.  If you, self-proclaimed purist, one who prides himself on being able to drive manual transmission (a feat matched by 16 year old girls all throughout Europe) and detest driving aids, defends that, it?s YOU who must be misinformed or trolling.

[GoCougs]

A Golf isn't a sports car, I don't even consider it a sporty car.

I don't think many in general, or any 'SPINners at all, classify it as sports car. However, it is unarguably a sporty car. The WRX is cheap and unrefined, the Mustang is a caricature and the Camaro a bit less so, the Civic Si is still horrible WRT to ride and road noise; this is how the GTI made it on my short list.

[TurboDan]

Highs: VW faithful will love it, a very nice interior for the class, lighter and more powerful.

Lows: real enthusiast will hate it, looks ugly, will probably be overpriced.

Verdict: Same damn thing as a MK5/6. Call me when VW makes something worth a damn.

The Passat looks boring, but it's far from ugly. I know this is troll feeding here, but what was there to hate about the B5/6 Passats? I wouldn't buy the current Passat, but I loved my B5.5, as did a few other people here who had them. It handled just about as well as any FWD car could, was fun to drive with the 1.8T and was sufficiently roomy. I was iffy going to a midsize sedan from my Saab hatch, but it proved itself a worthy car that blended enthusiast driving with practicality. And I had it 'til 155K with minimal mechanical issues. 

[TurboDan]

I don't think many in general, or any 'SPINners at all, classify it as sports car. However, it is unarguably a sporty car. The WRX is cheap and unrefined, the Mustang is a caricature and the Camaro a bit less so, the Civic Si is still horrible WRT to ride and road noise; this is how the GTI made it on my short list.

I agree. The GTI has the fewest compromises in this segment. The WRX has a cheapo interior, the Mustang and Camaro are both boats, the Civic Si is awful in terms of driveability. If I was looking for a sporty small car, it'd either be a GTI or a BRZ. I know, different classes of vehicles but I don't doubt they're cross-shopped.

[2o6]

I liked the Si, but the steering is so disappointing for such a sporty car.


And the new one removes the interesting engine, and replaces it with a boring 2.4L.



SE-R I don't even consider to be sporty.