OK this is worth hyperbole. Avalon Hybrid legitimately does 40 MPG combined???

Started by 12,000 RPM, June 17, 2013, 03:44:11 PM

2o6

Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 23, 2013, 06:27:03 PM
Also why their seven speeds automatics shift so weirdly.


The 6AT in any GM application runs to 6th as fast as possible and stays there.

2o6

Maybe engineering isn't listening enough to what their clientele wants and how they drive. Most GM vehicles achieve their EPA ratings, if not better, and they are usually fat fucks. The Cruze 1.4T isn't the greatest motor out there on paper (at least in comparison to the more high-tech Ford Ecoboost units), but in the real world it delivers.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 2o6 on June 23, 2013, 10:06:23 PM

The 6AT in any GM application runs to 6th as fast as possible and stays there.

Theres' more going on than that though sometimes they hesitate, sometimes they don't. There's something inconsistent in the entire shifting sequence that bugs me.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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2o6

Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 23, 2013, 10:08:55 PM
Theres' more going on than that though sometimes they hesitate, sometimes they don't. There's something inconsistent in the entire shifting sequence that bugs me.


The Cruze is the worst. It holds neutral and shifts between gears pretty slowly. Or like you said, sometimes it's ultra quick. Not as bad in the Sonic, and the 6AT in the Malibu and LAMBDA crossovers does OK.

r0tor

Parents Fusion just did 470 highway miles with a smidge over 10 gallons of gas visiting me in the outer banks.  Came out to 46.2 mpg highway.  Most of the driving was 70-75 mph.

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12,000 RPM

Quote from: r0tor on June 26, 2013, 07:18:27 PM
Parents Fusion just did 470 highway miles with a smidge over 10 gallons of gas visiting me in the outer banks.  Came out to 46.2 mpg highway.  Most of the driving was 70-75 mph.
Lol let it go dude.
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r0tor

Yea, I care enough to lie.  Do I need to go down to the beach and write "go fuck yourself" in the sand?
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

12,000 RPM

Quote from: r0tor on June 26, 2013, 07:22:48 PM
Yea, I care enough to lie.  Do I need to go down to the beach and write "go fuck yourself" in the sand?
Did I say you were lying? People beat EPA estimates all the time, that doesn't mean Ford didn't goof the testing
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CJ

Quote from: GoCougs on June 23, 2013, 08:26:27 PM
Turbo cars also add an extra measure of gamability what with boost (Ecoboost V6 and Hyundai 2.0T get way under EPA in real-world driving).


My dad's Sonata's average MPG is 28 or so. Not bad for his commute. Highway regularly turns 33-34, and I've done as high as 37.1 on a entire tank. Not bad.