Sporty's 350Z thread

Started by 12,000 RPM, July 22, 2013, 02:55:36 PM

12,000 RPM

TSX is slow as fuck... its like the Prelude with another 300lbs

And even if it never rains again it will still probably get cold. I am def leaning towards the Ludes if this M3 doesn't pan out.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 22, 2013, 09:30:20 PM
TSX is slow as fuck... its like the Prelude with another 300lbs

And even if it never rains again it will still probably get cold. I am def leaning towards the Ludes if this M3 doesn't pan out.

Its gotta be getting hard to find clean Preludes.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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SVT666

You said you really wanted RWD, but you have abandoned it already.

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I don't understand the aversion to a MacPherson strut, multilink Acura RSX, but you'll get a Maxima like you had with a torsion beam at the rear. And I feel like the 2003+ Maximas are both ugly and unreliable.


Focus SVT >> SVT Contour, seemingly all SVT Contours are beat to shit.


Also, there are no more Preludes.




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Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 22, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
Techno Violet on.... silver

I am warming up to the Prelude idea though. It's a more rational choice. This M3 is a steal though. It's undervalued by an easy 3-4K if everything is on the up and up.
Is that a 525??? What do I look like, Dazzleman :lol:

You could easily get a 540i 6 speed for under 10K. 
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 22, 2013, 09:33:46 PM
Its gotta be getting hard to find clean Preludes.
The 5th gens are abundant... they have always been expensive and a little out of the reach of idiots. There are a few good stock ones nearby.

Quote from: SVT666 on July 22, 2013, 10:08:41 PM
You said you really wanted RWD, but you have abandoned it already.
For what I have + want to spend it's slim pickings. If this M3 is clean it is the deal of the century. A regular priced one (~10K) will have to be damn good. Everyone says Miata, I really don't want one. I know I go on about how balance is important yadda yadda but I have been spoiled by the bike. I want something with bite. Lude handles well and can be quick for cheap. Just bought for cheap period.

Quote from: 2o6 on July 23, 2013, 12:16:08 AM
I don't understand the aversion to a MacPherson strut, multilink Acura RSX, but you'll get a Maxima like you had with a torsion beam at the rear. And I feel like the 2003+ Maximas are both ugly and unreliable.

Focus SVT >> SVT Contour, seemingly all SVT Contours are beat to shit.

Also, there are no more Preludes.

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Maxima is safe cheap and easy. And its suspension is better than the RSX in practice (!!!), especially when lowered (which you guys know I have to do). There is one CSVT around here that is clean as fuck for $3500.

Your suggestions are sound on the surface but let's look at them. IS is slow, my buddy had one in HS and we all hated it. TL is OK but a bit of a behemoth and heavily Honda taxed... an 02-03 Maxima is 90% as good for 50% of the price. EP3 is an RSX... not a bad car but a little too boy racer for me as well as slow and with the suspension issues. I have no use for AWD in a place with (supposedly) little rain and no snow. I do like the Legacy though. If it was RWD I would love a 3.0R

Quote from: Raza  on July 23, 2013, 02:05:52 AM
You could easily get a 540i 6 speed for under 10K. 
I thought about this too. I do like the E34s. E39s are damn pretty too. If I can't find an E36/E46 I might check these out. They are big and heavy though.

I can't sleep. I am hoping this other M3 dude flakes
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: Raza  on July 23, 2013, 02:05:52 AM
You could easily get a 540i 6 speed for under 10K. 

That was my thought as well, in fact just the other day I saw this.

http://mankato.craigslist.org/cto/3916629524.html

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3937962364.html

I know they are high mileage, and that may not be bad(if it has a 40lb box of maintenance receipts with it).

I can't believe how cheap these are getting.

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 23, 2013, 07:42:52 AM
That was my thought as well, in fact just the other day I saw this.

http://mankato.craigslist.org/cto/3916629524.html

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/cto/3937962364.html

I know they are high mileage, and that may not be bad(if it has a 40lb box of maintenance receipts with it).

I can't believe how cheap these are getting.

Holy shit buy one.
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: Raza  on July 23, 2013, 07:49:58 AM
Holy shit buy one.

I did think about it, for a few moments. I'm officially out of garage space, which is making it really hard to buy another vehicle. Otherwise I'd be buying a few more cars. but since I have very little(actually no space, but I think i can get 4 cars in my 3 car attached garage) I have to be very picky about what I buy next. Probably going to be a 911, I hope.

MrH

I used to work with a guy years ago who had an E39 M5.  He worked in purchasing, wore a headset, and spent 8 hours a day yelling into the phone.  I figured he was always yelling at incompetent suppliers.  Turns out half the calls were to the dealership about getting his M5 fixed :lol:
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: MrH on July 23, 2013, 07:55:00 AM
I used to work with a guy years ago who had an E39 M5.  He worked in purchasing, wore a headset, and spent 8 hours a day yelling into the phone.  I figured he was always yelling at incompetent suppliers.  Turns out half the calls were to the dealership about getting his M5 fixed :lol:

"What the hell do you mean the front control arms are bad, I just replaced them 20K miles ago."

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 23, 2013, 07:54:13 AM
I did think about it, for a few moments. I'm officially out of garage space, which is making it really hard to buy another vehicle. Otherwise I'd be buying a few more cars. but since I have very little(actually no space, but I think i can get 4 cars in my 3 car attached garage) I have to be very picky about what I buy next. Probably going to be a 911, I hope.

Sell your dumb boy racer 2F2F Evo and your faggy Miata.
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: Raza  on July 23, 2013, 08:15:09 AM
Sell your dumb boy racer 2F2F Evo and your faggy Miata.

I've thought of selling the miata, but there is one problem. If I sold it I would just refill that space with a newer miata or most likely a Boxster. Then I'd be back in the same situation. I've talked to a few contractors about adding onto the house garage. That seems like a more realistic thing in the long run.

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 23, 2013, 08:17:48 AM
I've thought of selling the miata, but there is one problem. If I sold it I would just refill that space with a newer miata or most likely a Boxster. Then I'd be back in the same situation. I've talked to a few contractors about adding onto the house garage. That seems like a more realistic thing in the long run.

Okay, I actually really like your Evo.  But, M5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Evo.

Sell the Miata and get a Z4 (or a Boxster or 996 Cabrio, whatever) and sell the Evo and get an M5.  And then sell your 300ZX and get an RS4.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: 2o6 on July 23, 2013, 07:38:27 AM
There's no goddamn suspension issues! It handles fucking fine!
It's so good Realtime Racing successfully lobbied the SCCA to let them completely redesign the rear suspension....

I'm sure its not terrible but it's not better than the Prelude for example. I do want to do some track days in this thing and the EP3/RSX suspension is not good for that

O and those M5 ads piss me off, an 03 M3 is a good 4-6K more than that in the same damn condition
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FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: Raza  on July 23, 2013, 08:23:45 AM
Okay, I actually really like your Evo.  But, M5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Evo.

Sell the Miata and get a Z4 (or a Boxster or 996 Cabrio, whatever) and sell the Evo and get an M5.  And then sell your 300ZX and get an RS4.

I like M5's, but it's apples to oranges in a comparison with an EVO. The evo is a better road/track car IMO when you prioritize weight/handling and driver feedback.

FlatBlackCaddy

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 23, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
It's so good Realtime Racing successfully lobbied the SCCA to let them completely redesign the rear suspension....

I'm sure its not terrible but it's not better than the Prelude for example. I do want to do some track days in this thing and the EP3/RSX suspension is not good for that

O and those M5 ads piss me off, an 03 M3 is a good 4-6K more than that in the same damn condition

I'd dig long and hard to find a 330 ZHP if I were in your shoes, might be a bit over budget but well worth it.

Raza

Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on July 23, 2013, 09:06:55 AM
I like M5's, but it's apples to oranges in a comparison with an EVO. The evo is a better road/track car IMO when you prioritize weight/handling and driver feedback.

I outlined the entire plan, Paul Walker.  Stop clinging to your cereal box prize car!
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Quote from: Raza  on July 23, 2013, 08:23:45 AM
Okay, I actually really like your Evo.  But, M5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Evo.

Sell the Miata and get a Z4 (or a Boxster or 996 Cabrio, whatever) and sell the Evo and get an M5.  And then sell your 300ZX and get an RS4.

You're very good at spending other people's money. You could make a good wife one day!

Raza

Quote from: Onslaught on July 23, 2013, 09:11:53 AM
You're very good at spending other people's money. You could make a good wife one day!

That's the plan.
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MrH

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 23, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
It's so good Realtime Racing successfully lobbied the SCCA to let them completely redesign the rear suspension....

I'm sure its not terrible but it's not better than the Prelude for example. I do want to do some track days in this thing and the EP3/RSX suspension is not good for that

O and those M5 ads piss me off, an 03 M3 is a good 4-6K more than that in the same damn condition

A maxima slammed on eBay coilovers is not going to be better on a track...
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Raza

Now you have me searching for Preludes.  Damn it.  I didn't realize they were getting so cheap. 

Also, I know you said you didn't need AWD, and you'd have to travel for one, but a Saab 9-2X Aero would be a great daily driver.


EDIT:  The Prelude's trunk is smaller than my Z4's...
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