Hey Raza.... watch these before you buy that Abarth:

[12,000 RPM]

Cool comparo

Fiat 500 Abarth Review (Tiny Turbos Pt.1) -- Everyday Driver

Ford Fiesta ST Review (Tiny Turbos Pt. 2) -- Everyday Driver

[68_427]

A 2013 Abarth like he's trying to get will be WAY cheaper than a Fiesta ST.

[MexicoCityM3]

For me the cool of the Abarth overcomes the excellence of the ST. Too boy racerish.

[FoMoJo]

I love the looks of the Abarth and, being taller, I would, likely, fit in it better.  It would be a tough choice for me.  That's not to say that the ST would not be as appealing...after a test drive.

[MX793]

I wish we got the 3-door Fiesta.  The swoopier shape of the Fiesta (as opposed to other hatches like the Golf) really lends itself to the 3-door configuration.

[68_427]

I didn't even need to watch the second video to decide which I'd rather have.

HNNG Abarth

[Raza]

I didn't even need to watch the second video to decide which I'd rather have.

HNNG Abarth

The Abarth is amazing.  Still trying to put that deal together, though a 2014 GTI is might tempting as well.

[68_427]

I could Finance one if I wanted...  This is horrible.


http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/new/searchresults.action?sourceContext=NewCarsTab&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d1327&zip=14623&distance=MILES_75#listing=67797288


oh god


$220/mo for 5 years? 

[Northlands]

I haven't driven an Abarth yet, but I sure enjoyed the Fiesta ( non turbo ). However, it was a tight squeeze for me. I'm only 6'1. The room would mean a lot. If the performance is similar ( in the Abarth ), money would almost not even be a consideration.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I doubt raza would ever buy a fiesta. He's way too much of an snob to be seen in a lowly ford.

[Raza]

I doubt raza would ever buy a fiesta. He's way too much of an snob to be seen in a lowly ford.

As much as I want to refute this, it's probably true.......

[68_427]

Just got a no on the Abarth.

BRB gunna cry forever.  It's on my must drive list before I die.

[Madman]

Given the choice between these two, the decision really comes down to how I would be using the car.  If this were to be my only car, then the extra doors and larger space of the Fiesta wins out.  However, if I already had another car to use for all the boring practical stuff then the Abarth wins.

Either way, these are two fantastic cars imbued with character, a commodity sorely lacking in most of today's personal transportation appliances.

[12,000 RPM]

Just got a no on the Abarth.

BRB gunna cry forever.  It's on my must drive list before I die.

A no from who?

And I agree that it's a great car; not sure it's a bucket list car though.

Wish Fiat would give the same treatment to + bring over the damn Panda. If you can believe it, that car drives way better than the top heavy 500.

[68_427]

My mom who would match my down payment and pays my insurance.

[2o6]

I've driven both.



I liked the Fiesta more.

[Payman]

The long haired guy creeped me out.

"It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose."

[Char]

He's considering buying these cars/GTI?

Obviously a case of more money than sense. 

[2o6]

I swear to god, you must be in 9th grade or something.

[12,000 RPM]

He's considering buying these cars/GTI?

Obviously a case of more money than sense.

So what should he be considering?

[2o6]

So what should he be considering?

Something that 9th graders think is cool.


Like a stanced E46 wagon.

[SVT32V]

I doubt raza would ever buy a fiesta. He's way too much of an snob to be seen in a lowly ford.

Is a fiat (sans ferarri and other subsidaries) really that much more upscale than ford, foreign yes, upscale not really.

[2o6]

Hmm, in these two cars, the 500 is defenitely nicer inside.

[Raza]

Is a fiat (sans ferarri and other subsidaries) really that much more upscale than ford, foreign yes, upscale not really.

The interior is quite nice for a car its size and price, and being Italian, as with all other Italian cars, it's forgiven small issues because of its character.

[Payman]

The interior is quite nice for a car its size and price, and being Italian, as with all other Italian cars, it's forgiven small issues because of its character.

Surprising number of people can't wrap their head around this.

[Char]

The interior is quite nice for a car its size and price, and being Italian, as with all other Italian cars, it's forgiven small issues because of its character.

Yeah, because a nice interior is totally why I'm looking for a fun compact car. If you want a nice interior, buy a Midsize/entry level luxury car.
Sounds like you are (and everyone else) are making excuses for a car with high price and many shortcomings.

"Char, it's a great car in comparison to a ___" Like most things Carspin, these false equivalence statements aren't quantified by anything outside of interior appearance. It's an overpriced POS, and you're really better off buying a used car.

[12,000 RPM]

Yeah, because a nice interior is totally why I'm looking for a fun compact car. If you want a nice interior, buy a Midsize/entry level luxury car.
Sounds like you are (and everyone else) are making excuses for a car with high price and many shortcomings.

"Char, it's a great car in comparison to a ___" Like most things Carspin, these false equivalence statements aren't quantified by anything outside of interior appearance. It's an overpriced POS, and you're really better off buying a used car.

Why do Raza's car buying decisions have such a profound personal affect on you?

And yes, when shopping in a segment, comparing cars doesn't seem very unreasonable. But you rarely exercise reason

[Char]

Why do Raza's car buying decisions have such a profound personal affect on you?

And yes, when shopping in a segment, comparing cars doesn't seem very unreasonable. But you rarely exercise reason

What's unreasonable about buying a better car in the price range? What about a Fiat or GTI is worth their price? Oh the interior quality - for that price you're nearing E90 M3 prices which offer more features, power, reliability and prestige than 2 fwd shitboxes.
And I'm unreasonable.

[2o6]

What's unreasonable about buying a better car in the price range? What about a Fiat or GTI is worth their price? Oh the interior quality - for that price you're nearing E90 M3 prices which offer more features, power, reliability and prestige than 2 fwd shitboxes.
And I'm unreasonable.

You're in high school and probably have never actually turned a wrench on a car, made a payment, or dealt with a service department. Or even driven a car..

[Char]

You're in high school and probably have never actually turned a wrench on a car, made a payment, or dealt with a service department. Or even driven a car..

Ad hominem.