New Jeep Cherokee is kicking ass

[veeman]

http://www.freep.com/article/20140801/BUSINESS0104/308010038/Auto-sales-Ford-GM-Chrysler

No matter what souce you look at, it's clear the new Jeep Cherokee is kicking ass in the sales department.  There were and are many naysayers that hate it, especially on this forum, but its selling real well.  Jeep took a chance alienating its base, but its worked out for them.  You know its selling well too because of its styling, not despite it.   Plenty of other SUVs ride better, and few people off road in them as opposed to the Wrangler.

[68_427]

I love these things.  Then again I love the Juke too.

[12,000 RPM]

I wouldnt mind it so much if it weren't so heavy....

The whole FCA C segment platform is overweight, but undersized. It's bizarre.

Glad it's doing well though, Chrysler needs a hit bad.

[SVT666]

It looks so much better in the metal than in pictures. I really dig it.

[hotrodalex]

That picture actually looks decent.

Haven't seen any in person.

[2o6]

I've seen quite a few in person.


I've the front end, but not much else.

[280Z Turbo]

Well the Jeeptards still think Chrysler owes them a shitty old box on wheels with solid axles and a coarse AMC straight six. They'll never get over it. For the rest of us, we realize that Jeep needs to bring in profits.

Most of them can't afford a new car anyway.

[r0tor]

Imagine how well it would sell if it weren't butt ugly

[Lebowski]

Imagine how well it would sell if it weren't butt ugly

Nah, that it's ugly is what's making it sell.

[hotrodalex]

Most of them can't afford a new car anyway.

Have you see Jeep prices? Used ones are as much as new ones.

[Payman]

I see tons of these on the road. I like the styling... it's grown on me.

[MexicoCityM3]

Saw my first TrailHahwk V6 version yesterday. I liked it.

[Raza]

Nah, that it's ugly is what's making it sell.

Exactly. Distinctive is distinctive, no matter the reason. That's why I see Jukes everywhere when they're vomit-inducing.

[veeman]

Exactly. Distinctive is distinctive, no matter the reason. That's why I see Jukes everywhere when they're vomit-inducing.

Nahhh.  If that were so, the Aztek would have sold well.  There's a difference between distinctive and cool looking and distinctive and ugly. 

[CALL_911]

I dig it

[CALL_911]

Nahhh.  If that were so, the Aztek would have sold well.  There's a difference between distinctive and cool looking and distinctive and ugly.

Agreed. Even the latest TL was a flop, probably for that reason

[MrH]

A coworkers girlfriend has a trail hawk version that he brings in sometimes. Looks good in dark Grey, with the red tow hooks on the front.

Most of them look like crap though IMO

[SVT32V]

Glad it's doing well though, Chrysler needs a hit bad.

Jeep has done well by Fiat-Chrysler.
The grand cherokee, wrangler and cherokee will all sell ~150K/yr vehicles or past it.
Which isn't camry or F-150 numbers, but all of those numbers are a hit.

[Catman]

I think they are pretty cool.  Would rather have a Wrangler Unlimited though.

[Raza]

Nahhh.  If that were so, the Aztek would have sold well.  There's a difference between distinctive and cool looking and distinctive and ugly.

Times have changed. People have become more used to these ugly newer cars and therefore the ugliest ones are becoming oddly attractive to those so afflicted.

[Submariner]

Nahhh.  If that were so, the Aztek would have sold well.  There's a difference between distinctive and cool looking and distinctive and ugly. 

The Aztek, like everything GM of that era, was a shitbox.  A horribly designed car put together by the lowest common denominator of employable people. 

Everyone I know who has a GM product built from 1990 - 2005 should have bought something - anything - else. 

[CALL_911]

Tell that to 565 or anyone with a GMT800

(but no, by and large you're right)

[280Z Turbo]

I wouldn't mind a C5, even if the interior is horrible and the exterior styling is blob-like.

[veeman]

Times have changed. People have become more used to these ugly newer cars and therefore the ugliest ones are becoming oddly attractive to those so afflicted.

I agree with you that there is something appealing to just being different that wasn't there in the past.  I think it has to do with pedestrian crash safety rules and homogeneity among different models of the same make.  All cars have this bulbous rounded front and all audis, bmws, mercs, etc. are looking more and more similar across their entire product line. 

This jeep looks good though, especially with big thick tires.  In higher v6 trim I'd take one any day over a rav4, crv, escape, equinox.  The only car of this type I'd take over the jeep would be a subie outback/forrester.

[hotrodalex]

It should be a crime to put anything other than fat off road tires on a Jeep.

[12,000 RPM]

Nahhh.  If that were so, the Aztek would have sold well.  There's a difference between distinctive and cool looking and distinctive and ugly.

Aztek was ahead of its time, and would have did well had its concept translated to production better.

I think classic beauty is cool but I also don't think it's good to stifle creativity. People dumped on Bangle's (really Van Hoonyk or whatever the fuck his name is) designs... but IMO, the Bangle Butt 6 and 7 series' cars are among BMW's best designs of all time. And the E60 is aging better than its conservative contemporaries (again IMO). Lot of folks hated the Z4... poster child for "flame surfacing".... but now its on its way to being a classic

So I don't see problems with cars like the Juke or Cherokee... people like + buy them and they add variety. Everything isn't for everybody, but more choice is never a bad thing.

[2o6]

Aztek was ahead of its time, and would have did well had its concept translated to production better.

Why do people say this.


The Aztek was not a problem with styling - although ugly - it was a problem with extreme cost-cutting measures enacted by GM that made the end product utter shit.


The Aztek was a SWB Venture van with funky styling. It looked like one (tall, narrow), and it drove like one. It even had that same solid axle on FWD models, and the same not that competitive 3.4L and 4AT that GM put in every car of that era.


Besides, the Concept was ugly as hell

[hotrodalex]

Nah I'm pretty sure it was the styling. Most people were too busy puking to realize how lame it was underneath the skin.

[SVT666]

The Aztek was ugly and oddly proportioned.  The new ugly cars are still proportioned well.

[12,000 RPM]

Why do people say this.


The Aztek was not a problem with styling - although ugly - it was a problem with extreme cost-cutting measures enacted by GM that made the end product utter shit.

Lol this is what I just said. Nowhere did I say the Aztek was good looking, but it was the translation from concept to production that really killed it.