Car Chat

[MX793]

If that's 43mm, he dude wearing it has one of those atrophied mutant arms, or is a very hairy four year old.

I think there's some fisheye lens effect going on there.  That said, a chunky, 43mm watch would look about as oversized on my wrist (6.6-6.7" circumference).

[12,000 RPM]

Still fairly common here. Modern ones have bottle-filling spigots on them:




Not yet!

Yes! They just put one in our gym, and it's phenomenal. It's gotta do like 1-2 GPM, nice and laminar too so there's no splashing or frothing. Great stuff

[CaminoRacer]

Our whole campus has them. I'm surprised people still pony up for bottled water when you can buy a nalgene for $8 and have unlimited free water

[FoMoJo]

If that's 43mm, he dude wearing it has one of those atrophied mutant arms, or is a very hairy four year old.

Looks like orange hair.

[Raza]

I absolutely love the design on it.  I'm not sure how it works still exactly. The inner hands are the chrono?  What tells the time?  The outer indicator is the hour, but where are the minute and second hands?

Markers at 6 o'clock tells the time.  It's 12:05, it looks like in that pic.  More on it here:
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/singer-track1-chronograph-introducing

[Raza]

If that's 43mm, he dude wearing it has one of those atrophied mutant arms, or is a very hairy four year old.

Some people have very small wrists.  I know full grown adults who have 40mm watches that look way too big on them.

[Raza]

Still fairly common here. Modern ones have bottle-filling spigots on them:




Not yet!

They had a bunch of those in the law building at school. 

[Raza]

I think there's some fisheye lens effect going on there.  That said, a chunky, 43mm watch would look about as oversized on my wrist (6.6-6.7" circumference).

15mm thick isn't doing it any favors either.

[FoMoJo]

Hours is the outermost ring (index line at bottom of dial).  Minutes is a concentric ring just inside of that (using the same index marker).  I don't believe there's a running seconds hand or readout.

The inner circle?

[MX793]

The inner circle?

Moving from center out, you have a 3-hand chronograph (hours, minutes, seconds).  Outside of that, you have the normal time keeping functions on concentric rings.  Minutes is the inner ring, hours is the outer ring.  There is no running seconds dial or ring.

[FoMoJo]

Moving from center out, you have a 3-hand chronograph (hours, minutes, seconds).  Outside of that, you have the normal time keeping functions on concentric rings.  Minutes is the inner ring, hours is the outer ring.  There is no running seconds dial or ring.

Too complicated.

[MexicoCityM3]

This is the car chat thread?

[Raza]

This is the car chat thread?

Yeah.  The rest of the forum is an alt-right rally.

[Raza]

Too complicated.

Think of it as a stopwatch first, with the time telling being a secondary function.  A neat novelty at $4,000, an insane piece at $40,000.

[Soup DeVille]

Looks like orange hair.

A balding primate then? Something smaller, maybe from Madagascar?

[FoMoJo]

This is the car chat thread?

An exercise in diversity.

[Laconian]

"nice and laminar too so there's no splashing or frothing"

I'm glad other people appreciate these little things in life.

[MexicoCityM3]

Yeah.  The rest of the forum is an alt-right rally.

Gotcha. Carry on.

[Laconian]

Car chat: I can't believe people still buy the BMW i3! That first-generation EV range is abysmal.

[CaminoRacer]

"nice and laminar too so there's no splashing or frothing"

I'm glad other people appreciate these little things in life.

I find it pretty satisfying as well

[MexicoCityM3]

Car chat: I can't believe people still buy the BMW i3! That first-generation EV range is abysmal.

Well, there are a few reasons that I can think of:

- Some people like the futuristic looks that advertise to everyone that you are saving the planet
- It has very advanced body tech (carbo fibre passenger cell) and that is cool
- It is fun to drive in urban settings
- It has much, much better interior than the Bolt
- It has a BMW badge instead of a Chevy badge
- It is cheaper than any Tesla that is available today without a 2 year wait
- Range is enough for a lot of scenarios as a second, urban car
- It is top of the class or very close for overall efficiency (MPGe)

I recently tested the Bolt and the i3 both. I see no scenario where for my needs I would exceed the i3's range. Those two cars cost about the same here. I'd get the i3. However, I would never buy it, just lease it. Electric car tech changes too fast for long term ownership IMO.

[Laconian]

The prices are very different in the USA. You pay dearly for those intangibles in terms of price, range, and livability if you have to use a gas range extender. The value proposition is hard for me to understand.

Bolt vs. i3: $36,620 vs. $42,400. Bolt has 4x the range, much better acceleration.
Volt vs i3 REX: $33,220 vs. $56,000 . Volt has a fuel tank and gas engine output that makes it livable for everyday use. REX is a tiny little thing.

[MexicoCityM3]

The prices are very different in the USA. You pay dearly for those intangibles in terms of price, range, and livability if you have to use a gas range extender. The value proposition is hard for me to understand.

Bolt vs. i3: $36,620 vs. $42,400. Bolt has 4x the range, much better acceleration.
Volt vs i3 REX: $33,220 vs. $56,000 . Volt has a fuel tank and gas engine output that makes it livable for everyday use. REX is a tiny little thing.

Bolt here is $700K pesos. i3 at 880K. On a lease the rates are a wash, maybe the i3 is cheaper to lease even.

i3 has 200km range; Bolt 383km. So more like 2X not 4X.

But the range point is moot if you have a different car for long distance travel. I never ever drive 200km (urban) in a single day.

The difference in acceleration is less than a second 0-60.

[MX793]

Bolt here is $700K pesos. i3 at 880K. On a lease the rates are a wash, maybe the i3 is cheaper to lease even.

i3 has 200km range; Bolt 383km. So more like 2X not 4X.

But the range point is moot if you have a different car for long distance travel. I never ever drive 200km (urban) in a single day.

The difference in acceleration is less than a second 0-60.

The basic, $42K i3 only has a ~124 km range.  Need to pony up for the optional larger battery to get 200 km.  So the Bolt has 3x the range of the nearest priced i3.

[Payman]

August 16 was the 40th anniversary of the death of America's favorite jumpsuit aficionado, Elvis Presley. On that very same day, nearly every Honda or Acura vehicle built between 1999 and 2004 and fitted with a Nav system had their clocks fail to just displaying 0:00. Coincidence? You decide.

According to Honda and Acura forums all over the place, at some point on eleven days ago, some Y2K-like error in the Nav system caused these cars' clocks to reset to 0:00, with some owners reporting that they found the car's internal clock had rolled back to January, 1998.

If we look at the length of time between January 1, 1998 and August 16, 2017, we find that its 7,167 days, which is 172,008 hours. More notably, the length of time is also 1023 weeks and 6 days, which means that it's one day shy of 1024 weeks.

I think that is significant because 1,024 is one of those numbers that shows up all the time in computers. 1,024 bytes is 1 kilobyte, 1,024 kilobytes is one megabyte, and so on. I suspect that maybe the memory resource for storing the number of weeks rolled over, maybe?

A number of possible solutions to the problem have been attempted by owners, with no success so far. These include pulling the radio/nav fuse, resetting the radio, unplugging antennas, and so on. According to some that have called Honda/Acura customer service, the company seems to be aware of the problem and is counseling owners to wait for an announced fix.

I reached out to Honda for comment, and am awaiting a response. As soon as we hear something, I'll update the story.

While I haven't found any evidence to suggest the failure is directly related to the death of Elvis, I haven't found anything to explicitly rule it out, either. Maybe a cunning Nav system programmer who quietly worshipped The King slipped this bug in there?

In the meantime, it sure seems like a software error in the system itself, so I would suggest that it's not worth spending whatever a Honda or Acura dealer may charge to diagnose the issue. The ball seems to be in Honda's court now, and if a fix is possible, it'll likely have come from them directly.

[shp4man]

It's possible.

[MrH]

So for my 30th birthday, wife is flying us down to Atlanta to do a Porsche Driving Experience thing.

Do I do the 911 GT3 vs Turbo, or GT3 vs GT3 RS?

[CaminoRacer]

I'm not seeing a GT3 vs GT3 RS option.

[68_427]

So for my 30th birthday, wife is flying us down to Atlanta to do a Porsche Driving Experience thing.

Do I do the 911 GT3 vs Turbo, or GT3 vs GT3 RS?

Why not both?  You ain't payin

[MrH]

I'm not seeing a GT3 vs GT3 RS option.

It's called the GT academy.

Why not both?  You ain't payin

Ha, well, I kind of am. Shared money and all. It's like $1000