Car Chat

[MexicoCityM3]

So the G went from widow-maker to unable-to-break-loose-at-all-except-on-a-track with a change of tires?

[12,000 RPM]

So the G went from widow-maker to unable-to-break-loose-at-all-except-on-a-track with a change of tires?

Have you ever driven a car on bald tires?

"I can't control my car!"

"Why do you guys want good tires?"

#SportySPIN™

So the only good tires are PSSs?

[MexicoCityM3]

Have you ever driven a car on bald tires?
So the only good tires are PSSs?

1. Yes. I run them bald on the track because it is too expensive to replace them earlier.
2. No, but they are the best.

[MexicoCityM3]

Contrary to what is common Spin knowledge, people do manage to hold on to a really nice M car for the long term....

https://petrolicious.com/articles/this-bmw-e39-m5-is-well-on-its-way-to-half-a-million-miles

[Xer0]

A new 911 variant: the Carrera T. I'd love to get one so it's now officially my "aspirational somewhat realistic" Porsche.

Basically a base Carrera with a few choice driver-focused options included.

https://www.porsche.com/latin-america-es/_mexico_/models/911/911-carrera-t/

https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-porsche-911-carrera-t-is-the-lightest-new-911-1819755457

Oh, very nice.  I eagerly await a 718 T that I'm sure will follow knowing Porsche.

[12,000 RPM]

1. Yes. I run them bald on the track because it is too expensive to replace them earlier.
2. No, but they are the best.

That's what I get for incomplete qualifiers. How about bald cheap all seasons in the rain? With worn shocks?

[MexicoCityM3]

That's what I get for incomplete qualifiers. How about bald cheap all seasons in the rain? With worn shocks?

No because I don't want to die or kill anyone. Ok, that explains the widow-maker part (now solved).

But, come on, the "where you use all that grip" comment about the PSS tires? I am sure even that puny V6 motor can break traction on new tires taking a tight turn and giving it some gas, can't it? At street speeds.

[12,000 RPM]

No because I don't want to die or kill anyone. Ok, that explains the widow-maker part (now solved).

But, come on, the "where you use all that grip" comment about the PSS tires? I am sure even that puny V6 motor can break traction on new tires taking a tight turn and giving it some gas, can't it? At street speeds.

Puny V6 lmao. Come on man. Yes, it can break traction with power in a tight turn. I am pretty sure any high power RWD car can on any street tire. That's just shit driving

[AutobahnSHO]

Puny V6 lmao. Come on man. Yes, it can break traction with power in a tight turn. I am pretty sure any high power RWD car can on any street tire. That's just shit driving

stickier tires transforms some of the shit into forward motion.

[CaminoRacer]

Ferrari 308 seems like a good Raza car.

https://youtu.be/MflidaGzcVc

[giant_mtb]

This seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.  I mean, neat idea, but combination jacks/stands already exist (for half the price) and I trust a straight up pawl system over tube welds and shear pins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqXIrSVQ3ts

[Galaxy]

Winter or all season?

Winter.


Regarding the 911T, what actually impresses me the most is that the infotainment, the rear seats, the sound proofing, and the normal windows only make the regular Carrera 11lbs heavier.

[Raza]

Ferrari 308 seems like a good Raza car.

https://youtu.be/MflidaGzcVc

I never really loved the styling of those, but that does seem right up my alley. Love these, though:

[12,000 RPM]

Came out after work yesterday; G was on but not running and the dash said "no key". I thought the car would turn itself off after some time in that situation; apparently not. Had to get a jump but things look OK now. What a bungled implementation of keyless entry/start, couldn't believe it.

[MX793]

Came out after work yesterday; G was on but not running and the dash said "no key". I thought the car would turn itself off after some time in that situation; apparently not. Had to get a jump but things look OK now. What a bungled implementation of keyless entry/start, couldn't believe it.

Did you accidentally double-tap the button when shutting it off and put it in accessory?

[SJ_GTI]

Came out after work yesterday; G was on but not running and the dash said "no key". I thought the car would turn itself off after some time in that situation; apparently not. Had to get a jump but things look OK now. What a bungled implementation of keyless entry/start, couldn't believe it.

It's a pretty easy mistake to make with keyless systems and push button starters.

I am surprised it didn't turn itself off. When I tailgate occasionally I'll use the cars radio to listen to music or other football games and it normally shuts off after some period of time (30 minutes or so...never timed it TBH).

[SJ_GTI]

Did you accidentally double-tap the button when shutting it off and put it in accessory?

Huh...never heard of that. I'll have to try that on my car to see if it will stay on.

[MX793]

Huh...never heard of that. I'll have to try that on my car to see if it will stay on.

Depends on the car, and probably transmission type.  On my Mustang, if I hit the start button but don't depress the clutch, it turns the car on but doesn't start the engine.  So if I pull into a parking space, put the car in neutral, pull the parking brake, let off the clutch, and then inadvertantly double tap the start button, it will shut the car off on the first press and then turn everything but the engine back on with the second.

I believe with automatic Mustangs, pressing the button with foot off the brake when the car is off initiates accessory mode.  I believe you need to depress the brake to start the engine.  So, again, an inadvertantly double tap when turning the car off could put you in accessory.

[MexicoCityM3]

The X5 will go into accessory mode with a double tap but it definitely shuts down if you lock it.

[SJ_GTI]

The X5 will go into accessory mode with a double tap but it definitely shuts down if you lock it.

I don't think my car (or my last car) will lock unless it is turned off. I have caught myself a couple times walking away and after not hearing the lock confirmation walking back to the car to find it is still on.

[CaminoRacer]

I just turn the key to "off", lock the door, and walk away. No surprises

[12,000 RPM]

Did you accidentally double-tap the button when shutting it off and put it in accessory?

I do that all the time when I pull in and want to keep listening to the radio without sucking down fuel. Car was on-on though, meaning if I double tapped I went from off through acc to on. That kept the HVAC fans blowing which probably did the draining. Very stupid that they don't have some kind of auto shut off for air head owners like myself. More surprising that it stayed on with no key.

[12,000 RPM]

Completely unrelated but one of my wife's coworkers just bought a Grand Sport.... he got it for $10K off and is certain it's going to "appreciate in value"

[MX793]

I do that all the time when I pull in and want to keep listening to the radio without sucking down fuel. Car was on-on though, meaning if I double tapped I went from off through acc to on. That kept the HVAC fans blowing which probably did the draining. Very stupid that they don't have some kind of auto shut off for air head owners like myself. More surprising that it stayed on with no key.

All of these smartkey cars will continue running if the key is removed.  I can start my car, get out, go into the house, drop my keys on the counter, get back into the car, and drive off.  I'll get a "no key detected" warning, but it won't shut the car off.  Of course, if I shut the car off, it won't restart without a key.

[12,000 RPM]

I wonder if you can drive off without the key. This seems silly, like a line of code kind of fix.

[MX793]

I wonder if you can drive off without the key. This seems silly, like a line of code kind of fix.

You absolutely can in my car.  It only needs the key to be present to start.  Once running, it won't shut off if it no longer detects a key.  It just flashes a warning.

[CaminoRacer]

I could take the key out of my old Saturn while it was running. The lock mechanism was busted I guess.

[FoMoJo]

I could take the key out of my old Saturn while it was running. The lock mechanism was busted I guess.

For years, dating at least back to '55, you could remove the key from the ignition on your Chevy with the car still running.  It was billed as a 'feature' I believe.  Could be that, once you got the thing started and had to go back in the house to get something you forgot, you could just remove the key which was likely on a chain or ring with your house key, get what you forget without the misery of having to get the thing started again.

[AutobahnSHO]

Completely unrelated but one of my wife's coworkers just bought a Grand Sport.... he got it for $10K off and is certain it's going to "appreciate in value"

[MexicoCityM3]

I wonder if you can drive off without the key. This seems silly, like a line of code kind of fix.

On the BMWs you can definitely drive off. Soon you'll get a warning that the ley is missing but the car won't stop unless you do it. Which is smart because if it cut off when it wanted it would be a safety issue.