~45 days away from 2015... no word on 2015 NSX

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I wouldn't let commercials be any indication on release date.  Hell, GM strutted that Camaro around for years before releasing the thing.

Stupid move IMO.  The Camaro seems like it's been around decades in my mind

Same here......

[SVT666]

Honda has already sold out of its long-awaited Acura NSX in the UK market, where it will be sold as the Honda NSX.

Customers quickly placed deposits for the country's entire initial allocation of 100 units. The orders were placed sight unseen, as the production model has not yet been revealed to the public.

A final price tag has not even been confirmed, though Honda previously hinted that it will likely sit in the Audi R8's bracket when it arrives early in 2016.

The company has been vocal in noting that the NSX is taking inspiration from the Ferrari 458 Italia as a performance benchmark, suggesting the Japanese supercar could be capable of hitting 60 mph in less than 3.3 seconds. A Sport-Hybrid all-wheel-drive setup will help deliver an expected 500 horsepower or more, combining the output from a twin-turbocharged V6 and two electric motors.

"Don't forget, the original NSX didn't look so good on numbers," NSX development head Ted Klaus told Top Gear. "But then everyone drove the car and it became a new interpretation of the sportscar."

[MrH]

http://jalopnik.com/heres-the-first-teaser-of-the-brand-new-acura-nsx-1672154584

[Raza]

How is that the first teaser when the car was in the Avengers movie? This car has been about to be released for so long it's old now. It's on Netflix, I'm waiting for the sequel. Any news on specs for the replacement?

[MrH]

Well, they added two turbos to the engine.  I've heard mixed things about what's going on with the powertrain. 

The original 3 electric motors + NA V6 was deemed not enough.  Hence the delay.

[12,000 RPM]

Twin turbo and hybrid... this things gonna be a pig

[MrH]

Twin turbo and hybrid... this things gonna be a pig

Originally it was V6 + electric motor sandwiched between the transmission and engine + electric motor at each front wheel.

They damn near finished the thing entirely.  Brought in a 458 and a 12C, and then decided they weren't there.  So they added turbos.  I'm not sure if they axed some of the hybrid stuff or not.  I wouldn't be surprised if they dumped the motor in the rear and downsized the battery pack a bit.

I'm pretty excited for this car, despite the endless delays

[Cookie Monster]

No real manual, don't care.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I would have gone the opposite direction and focused on extremely low curb weight plus high revving v8(or 10??? Drool). If it was designed properly there wouldn't be a need for all the band aids(hybrid, electric motors, turbo's, etc).

[MX793]

I would have gone the opposite direction and focused on extremely low curb weight plus high revving v8(or 10??? Drool). If it was designed properly there wouldn't be a need for all the band aids(hybrid, electric motors, turbo's, etc).

Non-hybrid supercars are so 2007.  This thing needs to be cutting edge.

[Raza]

Well, they added two turbos to the engine.  I've heard mixed things about what's going on with the powertrain. 

The original 3 electric motors + NA V6 was deemed not enough.  Hence the delay.

Damn! That's awesome! 

[Raza]

I would have gone the opposite direction and focused on extremely low curb weight plus high revving v8(or 10??? Drool). If it was designed properly there wouldn't be a need for all the band aids(hybrid, electric motors, turbo's, etc).

Extremely high weight all electric with 10 electric motors, two for each wheel and one for each door.

[MrH]

Damn! That's awesome! 

Yeah.  Personally, I love the delay.  They basically drove it back to back with a 458 and said, nope, we gotta do more.  I love that sense of awareness.

I think this car is going to destroy a lot of things in the same price segment.  If it's 98% of a 458 at 1/3 the cost, they've got a winner.

[12,000 RPM]

Yeah.  Personally, I love the delay.  They basically drove it back to back with a 458 and said, nope, we gotta do more.  I love that sense of awareness.

I think this car is going to destroy a lot of things in the same price segment.  If it's 98% of a 458 at 1/3 the cost, they've got a winner.

They dont need turbos or hybrid tech to do that.

Actually, it would probably be cheaper if they didn't. Would def be lighter. A 600HP 5L V8 in a 3000lb body sounds a lot more exciting than this backwards RLX Turbo Coupe.

Also, the 458 came out in 2009. That they delayed this car for a year because they forgot to benchmark a car that came out 5 years ago speaks to incompetence, not self awareness.

[Raza]

Yeah.  Personally, I love the delay.  They basically drove it back to back with a 458 and said, nope, we gotta do more.  I love that sense of awareness.

I think this car is going to destroy a lot of things in the same price segment.  If it's 98% of a 458 at 1/3 the cost, they've got a winner.

Oh, I was being sarcastic.

[MrH]

They dont need turbos or hybrid tech to do that.

Actually, it would probably be cheaper if they didn't. Would def be lighter. A 600HP 5L V8 in a 3000lb body sounds a lot more exciting than this backwards RLX Turbo Coupe.

Also, the 458 came out in 2009. That they delayed this car for a year because they forgot to benchmark a car that came out 5 years ago speaks to incompetence, not self awareness.

Lol.  They didn't forget to benchmark it.  They came up short of where they thought they'd be.  The 458 is still the class leader, despite coming out in 2009.  Why aren't you ripping on McLaren and Lambo and everybody else?

600 hp in a MR setup with 3000 lbs would likely be a handful and likely not possible.  The hybrid tech is meant as a way to torque vector and give it AWD.

[Raza]

Lol.  They didn't forget to benchmark it.  They came up short of where they thought they'd be.  The 458 is still the class leader, despite coming out in 2009.  Why aren't you ripping on McLaren and Lambo and everybody else?

600 hp in a MR setup with 3000 lbs would likely be a handful and likely not possible.  The hybrid tech is meant as a way to torque vector and give it AWD.

458 has 570hp and weighs 3200 pounds, I don't remember it killing everybody. 

The majority of people driving these are never going even know where the traction control button is, let alone what it does. 

[SVT666]

600 hp in a MR setup with 3000 lbs would likely be a handful and likely not possible.

Really?

Exhibit "A":  627 hp and 2400 lbs




Exhibit "B":  651 hp and 2800 lbs




Exhibit "C":  594 hp and 2700 lbs

[68_427]

Those weights are all incorrect.

[MrH]

Really?

Exhibit "A":  627 hp and 2400 lbs




Exhibit "B":  651 hp and 2800 lbs




Exhibit "C":  594 hp and 2700 lbs

Lol those are all million dollar hyper cars with different crash regulations.

Talk about apples to oranges.. Jesus

[SVT666]

Those weights are all incorrect.

Not according to Wikipedia.

[SVT666]

You said it wasn't possible, I proved you wrong.

[MrH]

You said it wasn't possible, I proved you wrong.

Not possible given the current criteria. You're purposely being obtuse or you're just stupid. Your pick.

[SVT666]

Not possible given the current criteria. You're purposely being obtuse or you're just stupid. Your pick.

And what criteria prevents 3000 lbs and 600 hp from being driveable?

[68_427]

Asia just teased the nsx again.  In red this time.

[Colin]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/detroit-motor-show/2015-honda-nsx-sells-out-ahead-detroit-motor-show-debut

[12,000 RPM]

Lol.  They didn't forget to benchmark it.  They came up short of where they thought they'd be.  The 458 is still the class leader, despite coming out in 2009.  Why aren't you ripping on McLaren and Lambo and everybody else?

When did they start benchmarking it, last month? If it wasn't ready what was the deal with the superbowl commercial?

600 hp in a MR setup with 3000 lbs would likely be a handful and likely not possible.  The hybrid tech is meant as a way to torque vector and give it AWD.

The car they started benchmarking last week is not far off from those numbers. I drove a 458, it's anything but a handful.

Its amazing how far Honda has fallen. They went from making Ferrari do their cars over to doing their cars over at the 11th hour. And this thing is going to be a pig. I would be shocked if it came in under 3500lbs

[MrH]

Ferrari is the top dog in the segment, and continues to be, despite being one of the oldest vehicles.  And 3 times the cost.

If it's so easy to top it across the board, I dare you all to pull a Koenigsegg and start your own company.

[Raza]

Ferrari is the top dog in the segment, and continues to be, despite being one of the oldest vehicles.  And 3 times the cost.

If it's so easy to top it across the board, I dare you all to pull a Koenigsegg and start your own company.

He's not saying it's easy, he's saying they've had like 5 years to benchmark it and a last minute delay makes them look bush league because it seems like they just found out about Ferrari.  "Holy shit, they've been making cars for how long?"

[MrH]

They've been benchmarking for a long time.  You can design the entire thing in CAD, build it, and have every nuance figured out before you even make anything.

Building a super car to compete with Ferrari at a 1/3 of the price is the exact opposite of bush league.