Motor Trend vid: GT-R NISMO vs Z06

[r0tor]

So is this when we bring up GMs almightiest of almighty V8s gets pwn3d by a TTV6?

[hotrodalex]

Old pro-touring cars making 600hp will not touch either of these cars unless they are flat out race modified and not street friendly

Just as street friendly as these two in any way meaningful to my original point.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I'm sure these are very "street friendly" compared to an "old pro-touring" car.

Corvettes are the #1 early bird special commuter cars and my seat time in the GT-R(non nismo) gave me the impression of a 2 door maxima with a shit ton of power.

[12,000 RPM]

Yea I would love to see the lap times of those cars around Willow Springs (pref driven by Randy Pobst :) )

[hotrodalex]

Sorry but it would be a much larger gap between GT-R and Z06 if the chassis couldn't handle the power. It was just a little too stiff in the rear. Pretty obvious to see.

[GoCougs]

So is this when we bring up GMs almightiest of almighty V8s gets pwn3d by a TTV6?

So the reason why the GT-R was out in front was because of its engine?

Wow are you ever a glutton for punishment...

[r0tor]

So the reason why the GT-R was out in front was because of its engine?

Wow are you ever a glutton for punishment...

Pretty obvious the GTR is rated in godzilla power  and the Vette in donkey power...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Not an ideal suspension set up for that track, maybe combined with heat soak issues. Still did a damn good job. 1.5 seconds off a car costing $50k more is nothing to sneeze at.

So the reason why the GT-R was out in front was because of its engine?

Wow are you ever a glutton for punishment...

[r0tor]

I'm pretty sure that the GTR would have been faster but they did too many laps in a row so it overheated and lost power because of piss poor engineering

[MrH]

Also, the GT-R now looks positively awful. The NISMO rims and clad body bits look so dated it's comical.

2 FAST 2 FURIOUS!

[hotrodalex]

I'm pretty sure that the GTR would have been faster but they did too many laps in a row so it overheated and lost power because of piss poor engineering

A+ creativity

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I'm pretty sure that the GTR would have been faster but they did too many laps in a row so it overheated and lost power because of piss poor engineering

[hotrodalex]

Yea I would love to see the lap times of those cars around Willow Springs (pref driven by Randy Pobst :) )

To clarify, my point was that there are non-OEM chassis that can easily handle 600-700 hp. Not that they are better/faster/more streetable, those are all red-herrings.

[Tave]

The Z06 has had this issue for a number of years across several iterations. I think if GM could simply swap shocks and fix it, they would have done so.

[68_427]

Randy said he put the suspension in track mode, which he then called too stiff.  Why not try a softer setting?

[MX793]

Randy said he put the suspension in track mode, which he then called too stiff.  Why not try a softer setting?

I'd have to re-read the article, but I think they said he got his best laps in a softer setting.  They didn't mention the other settings in the video.

[12,000 RPM]

Did this Z06 have MRC? Maybe they need the Z28's spool shocks. I think they are just bumping up on the limits of GM engineering and physics tho

[SVT666]

Did this Z06 have MRC? Maybe they need the Z28's spool shocks. I think they are just bumping up on the limits of GM engineering and physics tho

They've definitely bumped the limits on their engine technology. The Z06 only makes max horsepower once a day.

[Cookie Monster]

They've definitely bumped the limits on their engine technology. The Z06 only makes max horsepower once a day.

[r0tor]

Randy said he put the suspension in track mode, which he then called too stiff.  Why not try a softer setting?

Total conspiracy dude.... They obviously wanted Godzilla to win given the fact they tested the Vette multiple times in different configurations and Godzilla only once

[FlatBlackCaddy]

The GTR comes dialed in from the factory, something to do with engineering and real world testing or something blah blah blah.

The Chevy is more of a DIY some completion required type thing, apparently.

[r0tor]

Anther indication that they wanted Godzilla to win was Pobst nonchalantly driving Godzilla with one hand while lapping and him looking like being on the edge of a nervous breakdown in the Vette.

[Char]

No one noticed that the Vette outtired the Nissan with Sport Cup tires (they even show only the inside has a channels).
The GT-R is clearly the superior car of the two, the Vette could benefit from a torque reduction feature to stop the rear tires from being overloaded, but I Just think they hit the limit of a FR car.

[hotrodalex]

Sticky tires vs. AWD, just a different way to go fast.

[Char]

Sticky tires vs. AWD, just a different way to go fast.

Unless you had AWD and sticky tires. 

[r0tor]

There are FR cars out there putting down the same or more power then the Vette and not be obnoxious... no "limit of an FR car" has been found

[MexicoCityM3]

There are FR cars out there putting down the same or more power then the Vette and not be obnoxious... no "limit of an FR car" has been found

Can't think of one that laps faster than the GTR. I think that FR indeed has a physical limit, lower than some other configurations

[SVT666]

Can't think of one that laps faster than the GTR. I think that FR indeed has a physical limit, lower than some other configurations

What about the F12?

[r0tor]

P1... 458... ect ect ect

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I'm pretty sure one of those is mid engined.