Updated 2016 Accord

[Eye of the Tiger]

M/T are not the best either overall. If they were custom rigs and Trophy Trucks and CJs all the rest would mostly be M/T. Most aren't because M/T is a performance detriment in many/most off road situations vs. a properly sorted AT.

LOL.

[Soup DeVille]

Don't act like I haven't owned at least three manual 4x4s. In fact, letting an automatic shift in 4lo is obscenely unsmooth in every vehicle I have driven. I cannot help your lack of skill with a clutch. Like many things, it takes practice, and some people will just never get it.

Clutch? I thought you were a trucker man.

[Soup DeVille]

-998 internetry

Americans buy 98% auto transmissions in the civilian sector because they can't drive. Army isn't going to teach people to drive stick. Trying to drive in combat zone is super stressful. So NO CLUTCH since like 1970s.

(you might get a point back if you know why I picked the number I picked)

Which is exactly why in the '80s the army refitted a lot of the old M35 Deuces with automatics: They could no longer get enough people who could drive them .

[Soup DeVille]

But yeah, Cougs here is more right than wrong: automatics are indeed quantifiably better in a lot of low traction situations. That doesn't make them better for any one particular buyer though.

[Eye of the Tiger]

But yeah, Cougs here is more right than wrong: automatics are indeed quantifiably better in a lot of low traction situations. That doesn't make them better for any one particular buyer though.

Negative

[GoCougs]

-998 internetry

Americans buy 98% auto transmissions in the civilian sector because they can't drive. Army isn't going to teach people to drive stick. Trying to drive in combat zone is super stressful. So NO CLUTCH since like 1970s.

(you might get a point back if you know why I picked the number I picked)

Well, not many in the civilian sector can shoot guns, fly planes, get up early, etc., etc., either . But point taken, but also point given on H1 performance with M/T vs. A/T.

No, I do not know about 998.

[Soup DeVille]

Well, not many in the civilian sector can shoot guns, fly planes, get up early, etc., etc., either . But point taken, but also point given on H1 performance with M/T vs. A/T.

No, I do not know about 998.

The M998 was the standard configuration humvee, before they got all uparmored and shit.
Transmission was the old GM TH400

[AutobahnSHO]

Well, not many in the civilian sector can shoot guns, fly planes, get up early, etc., etc., either . But point taken, but also point given on H1 performance with M/T vs. A/T.

Your syntax is weird but the H1 was never tested with M/T.

[AutobahnSHO]

The M998 was the standard configuration humvee, before they got all uparmored and shit.
Transmission was the old GM TH400

+1097 internetry   

[GoCougs]

Your syntax is weird but the H1 was never tested with M/T.

Correct, because performance would be dismal, so they didn't bother.

[MX793]

Correct, because performance would be dismal, so they didn't bother.

The 3 speed auto they came with wasn't exactly blistering.  A 6MT would provide adequate ratio spread for the engine in those.  Particularly if a low range is provided.

[Eye of the Tiger]

You can't do this with a Humvee, either

[AutobahnSHO]

Correct, because performance would be dismal, so they didn't bother.

NO because 10-15 yrs earlier all Army vehicles had been converted or bought in A/T. They weren't going to change that. That's like saying they built them only in LHD because RHD performance would be dismal.    (HINT they never tested that either)

[GoCougs]

The 3 speed auto they came with wasn't exactly blistering.  A 6MT would provide adequate ratio spread for the engine in those.  Particularly if a low range is provided.

With such steep gearing (i.e., low top speed) my bet is the utility of more gears was little if not zero.

[AutobahnSHO]

With such steep gearing (i.e., low top speed) my bet is the utility of more gears was little if not zero.

HMMWV has high, low, and low-lock-diff modes also. So in low mode there is utility.

But really, since fuel consumption is not a high priority, durability and simplicity rises in importance.

[GoCougs]

The lower the gearing the lesser the utility of more gears.