Updated 2016 Accord

[ifcar]

The midlfe update brings some tweaked styling, further adoption of the infotainment screen with Android Auto/Apple CarPlay but without a volume knob, a few new safety features.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2016-honda-accord-photos-and-info-news

[MrH]

I don't understand how car play and android auto are supposed to work with the double screen system.

[ifcar]

I don't understand how car play and android auto are supposed to work with the double screen system.

It looks like those systems might just ignore the top screen, based on the photo. It wouldn't be the first Honda to retrofit a touchscreen for some functions below a largely superfluous bigger screen.

[MrH]

Yeah, I don't get what the top screen is used for then...? Bizarre

[giant_mtb]

No volume knob?  lolfuckthat

[ifcar]

Yeah, I don't get what the top screen is used for then...? Bizarre

There will be some benefits to it, like keeping a display active at the time the touchscreen is switched over to some menu. But it's probably there mainly because it would cost too much to redesign the dashboard to remove it. The latest all-new Hondas -- Fit, HR-V, Pilot -- have just one screen; the ones that were designed initially with the screen higher up --  CR-V, Civic, Accord, Odyssey -- have two.

[MrH]

There will be some benefits to it, like keeping a display active at the time the touchscreen is switched over to some menu. But it's probably there mainly because it would cost too much to redesign the dashboard to remove it. The latest all-new Hondas -- Fit, HR-V, Pilot -- have just one screen; the ones that were designed initially with the screen higher up --  CR-V, Civic, Accord, Odyssey -- have two.

Yeah, I figured they don't want to retool for an entirely new dash design.  I'm just curious how this will all work together.  It's probably going to be janky as hell.

[Cookie Monster]

FUUUUU the beak is back!

[Rich]

Would you like some wheel with that sidewall?  Jeeez

[GoCougs]

I think it looks really good. 2nd screen probably for HVAC and rear camera, which isn't a bad idea. Too much to have that on the CarPlay screen.

[12,000 RPM]

No volume knob?  lolfuckthat

Im saying.....

They are doing too damn much.

[SJ_GTI]

Would you like some wheel with that sidewall?  Jeeez

[TBR]

Way to make it uglier Honda.

Also, while I am sure the top screen does show HVAC when you're adjusting it, there's actually a third screen below the other two dedicated to the display of the HVAC settings. Obviously not really in the line of sight though. When I testdrove an Accord last fall, I found the dual system to be surprisingly intuitive.

[Rich]

I probably said it backwards. But with the size of the car, the overall tire diameter is way too short. It looks like it's riding on roller skate wheels. And the fact that there's not much rubber showing highlights it imo. That the rocker panel flares out instead of slightly tucking under makes the problem worse. They borrowed a page from Toyota there.

[giant_mtb]

I think those wheels are plenty big. They've gotta be at least 18s.

[12,000 RPM]

The wheels are big, the tires should be a little bigger.

IMO the car is too big and boring for those little details to even matter. Most of these things will be shipped out on 225 65 R17s in accountant beige.

[SJ_GTI]

I probably said it backwards. But with the size of the car, the overall tire diameter is way too short. It looks like it's riding on roller skate wheels. And the fact that there's not much rubber showing highlights it imo. That the rocker panel flares out instead of slightly tucking under makes the problem worse. They borrowed a page from Toyota there.

Yeah, I think you got it backwards.

"Would you like some sidewall with your tire" would have made more sense.

Like when someone puts a lot of sugar in their coffee, you ask them if they want some coffee with their sugar. 

Edit: That being said, those sidewalls look a lot like mine. 

[2o6]

I don't think the sidewalks are small, I think the lip of the rim is painted black

[Cookie Monster]

I don't think the sidewalks are small, I think the lip of the rim is painted black

That would make the sidewalls look too big...

[Madman]

The Accord reminds me of 1970s Elvis.  A washed-up, has-been who used to be awesome but then over the years gradually got fat, stopped making hits and existed off his past glories.  And just like the fat, profusely sweating, jump suit-wearing Elvis, the Accord has become a grotesque parody of itself.

Yes, the Accord still sells, mostly by trading on its past reputation, to buyers who keep coming back out of force of habit and never bother to cross-shop the competition.  You could almost say the same thing about the Camry, too.  Except, unlike the Accord, the Camry was never cool.

Its such a shame because I know Honda can do much better than this.  Sadly, they've once again chosen the easy way out and decided to phone it in, knowing buyers will keep coming back regardless, just because of the H on the badge.  It is this same complacency that nearly killed the Detroit Three.

The sound you hear is Soichiro spinning in his grave.

[ifcar]

The Accord and Camry have both have periods of what you describe, but the current models are both outstanding in their class.

[GoCougs]

Word. Camry and Accord are probably the best cars made today, and the best value, esp. with not bowing to the turbo-4 craze. I don't agree they've ever had such "periods" though. 5th gen Accord and early 8th gen Accord was a bit of a blah, as was the 6th gen Camry, plus any year of the coupe version of either was definitely blah, but washed-up, etc., esp. WRT the competition? lol not a chance. The new Accord Sport with 6MT is a great package too.

[68_427]

The wheels are 19's

[Raza]

I don't think the sidewalls are small or the wheels are small; the wheel gap is too big.

And this is ugly.  Wasn't the pre-facelift Accord nice looking?

Also, if there's no volume knob, how do you change the volume?

[ifcar]

Word. Camry and Accord are probably the best cars made today, and the best value, esp. with not bowing to the turbo-4 craze. I don't agree they've ever had such "periods" though. 5th gen Accord and early 8th gen Accord was a bit of a blah, as was the 6th gen Camry, plus any year of the coupe version of either was definitely blah, but washed-up, etc., esp. WRT the competition? lol not a chance. The new Accord Sport with 6MT is a great package too.

The 2012-14 Camry was mediocre to drive even by the class standards (both ride and handling), had mediocre fuel economy, and had poor safety scores. The 2008-12 Accord was expensive, noisy, had mediocre fuel economy, and wasn't fun to drive like the previous or subsequent models. But both have since been fixed up nicely.

[ifcar]

Also, if there's no volume knob, how do you change the volume?

You either use the steering wheel controls or hit those little teeny buttons with the plus and minus on the left of the screen:

[cawimmer430]

Prediction: Mazda 6 sales will explode!

[Northlands]

They've "Acura'd" up the front fascia.

Whoops.

[2o6]

That would make the sidewalls look too big...

Idk it looks more like a visual trick to make the wheels look larger than they are rather than actual slim sidewalls


Or I'm desenitized to big wheels now

The Accord reminds me of 1970s Elvis.  A washed-up, has-been who used to be awesome but then over the years gradually got fat, stopped making hits and existed off his past glories.  And just like the fat, profusely sweating, jump suit-wearing Elvis, the Accord has become a grotesque parody of itself.

Yes, the Accord still sells, mostly by trading on its past reputation, to buyers who keep coming back out of force of habit and never bother to cross-shop the competition.  You could almost say the same thing about the Camry, too.  Except, unlike the Accord, the Camry was never cool.

Its such a shame because I know Honda can do much better than this.  Sadly, they've once again chosen the easy way out and decided to phone it in, knowing buyers will keep coming back regardless, just because of the H on the badge.  It is this same complacency that nearly killed the Detroit Three.

The sound you hear is Soichiro spinning in his grave.

Wtf are you talking about

[12,000 RPM]

The Accord reminds me of 1970s Elvis.  A washed-up, has-been who used to be awesome but then over the years gradually got fat, stopped making hits and existed off his past glories.  And just like the fat, profusely sweating, jump suit-wearing Elvis, the Accord has become a grotesque parody of itself.

Yes, the Accord still sells, mostly by trading on its past reputation, to buyers who keep coming back out of force of habit and never bother to cross-shop the competition.  You could almost say the same thing about the Camry, too.  Except, unlike the Accord, the Camry was never cool.

Its such a shame because I know Honda can do much better than this.  Sadly, they've once again chosen the easy way out and decided to phone it in, knowing buyers will keep coming back regardless, just because of the H on the badge.  It is this same complacency that nearly killed the Detroit Three.

The sound you hear is Soichiro spinning in his grave.

Lol you are like every internet car enthusiast meme wrapped up in one.

Accord is still a great value and the dynamic champ of its segment. It got a lot bigger but the Civic has filled the role of the old Accord. Admittedly the 9th gen Civic is a little booty doo but it's still a good car. Def way better than the old Accords you are reminiscing over, by a wide margin, including on dynamics.

What do u want, a Euro Accord that is uncompetitive that nobody would buy? Come on guy. But even still the large sedan segment is in decline, because CUVs and "compact" sedans fit people's needs better. I don't think what has happened to the Accord is Honda's fault. I just hope the 11th gen Civic has a V6 option....