Lol. Alfa delays Giulia and SUV

[giant_mtb]

Want. Immediately.

[AutobahnSHO]

+1 ^^^

[2o6]

I want to see what it looks like in not this trim; this is like saying that an M3 is what all 3 series look like

[12,000 RPM]

Yes

Most cars look good lowered + lipped out + rimmed out

It is the best looking of the M3/C63/etc bunch though by a long shot

[veeman]

Plus that color treatment doesn't seem stock.  I've never seen that nice a red on any stock car in that class. 

[cawimmer430]

Consumer Reports: "But a Camry is so much more reliable..."

Car Enthusiasts: "Shut the god damn fuck up, Consumer Reports!"

[12,000 RPM]

Consumer Reports: "But a Camry is so much more reliable..."

Car Enthusiasts: "Shut the god damn fuck up, Consumer Reports!"

OK, this stopped being funny about 6 years ago.

[68_427]

[SVT_Power]

Am I the only one who thinks this would look better with a slightly longer trunk? The back 1/4 of the car looks disproportionately small compared to the hood/cabin

[2o6]

Am I the only one who thinks this would look better with a slightly longer trunk? The back 1/4 of the car looks disproportionately small compared to the hood/cabin

Nah, the car is kinda awkward looking. And I still want to see it not in race trim.

[SVT666]

Nothing awkward about this car.  It's sexy as hell.

[BimmerM3]

Am I the only one who thinks this would look better with a slightly longer trunk? The back 1/4 of the car looks disproportionately small compared to the hood/cabin

No, I agree. It's like they tried to apply roadster proportions to a sedan. It's not awful, but it is slightly off.

[giant_mtb]

No, I agree. It's like they tried to apply roadster proportions to a sedan. It's not awful, but it is slightly off.

It's sort of 3-series ish in its proportions. But not at the same time.

[Rupert]

Man, too bad we'll never get them here.

[SVT_Power]

Nothing awkward about this car.  It's sexy as hell.

Its proportions are almost just like if you took a Maserati Quattroporte and chopped half of the trunk lid off to shorten the back end

[SVT666]

Its proportions are almost just like if you took a Maserati Quattroporte and chopped half of the trunk lid off to shorten the back end

And it's sexy as hell.

[SVT_Power]

And it's sexy as hell.

I agree, the Quattroporte has possibly the sexiest, most perfect proportions for a sedan I've ever seen

This Giulia thing? Not a bad looking car by any means, but definitely not as beautifully proportioned as a Quattroporte

[SVT666]

I agree, the Quattroporte has possibly the sexiest, most perfect proportions for a sedan I've ever seen

This Giulia thing? Not a bad looking car by any means, but definitely not as beautifully proportioned as a Quattroporte

The Giulia has the same proportions as my G37.  I think both look awesome.

[BimmerM3]

I think it's partially the fact that the trunk lid, as well as the crease line coming off the bottom of the windows, continues to slope downward. This angle shows what I mean. The trunk lid is barely at a different angle than the rear windshield.



Whereas the 3 series, which has similar proportions as Chris pointed out, has a slightly flatter trunk lid, plus the crease line is flat to meet the trunk lid at the the rear-most point of the car.

[SVT666]

I think it's partially the fact that the trunk lid, as well as the crease line coming off the bottom of the windows, continues to slope downward. This angle shows what I mean. The trunk lid is barely at a different angle than the rear windshield.



Whereas the 3 series, which has similar proportions as Chris pointed out, has a slightly flatter trunk lid, plus the crease line is flat to meet the trunk lid at the the rear-most point of the car.

And I prefer the way they styled the Giulia.  Looks sportier.

[Cookie Monster]

IMO it makes the Giulia look more muscular from the back.

[2o6]

I think the 3 series is a better looking car, and I liked previous Giorgio Guigaro and Italdesign designs for Alfa Romeo better.


I still want to see it in non Quadrafolio trim; everything looks good and mean with a front diffuser, but wheels, and wide track.


It's like comparing 3 series to an M3

[Yawn]

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/02/fca-gets-former-ferrari-chief-engineer.html

Supplier sources told AutoNews that the new Alfa Romeo Giulia failed to pass front, side and rear crash tests which resulted in an extensive re-engineering which will add about six months to the model's market launch.

[2o6]

Oh my god.


This car is DOA.

[Payman]

Damn. I want Alfa and Fiat to succeed, but it's all becoming a Greek Italian Tragedy. How can they be fucking up on so many fronts?

[Rich]

Bad decisions.

[Madman]

Damn. I want Alfa and Fiat to succeed, but it's all becoming a Greek Italian Tragedy. How can they be fucking up on so many fronts?

I know the feeling.  As someone who used to own a Fiat and came very, very close to buying an Alfa Romeo, I want so much for these brands to live and thrive.  I'm still holding out hope it will happen but it's taking a painfully long amount of time.

[12,000 RPM]

I know the feeling.  As someone who used to own a Fiat and came very, very close to buying an Alfa Romeo, I want so much for these brands to live and thrive.  I'm still holding out hope it will happen but it's taking a painfully long amount of time.

You are a glutton for punishment in the interest of contrarianism though.... most people won't put up with this horseshit to feel like they are different.

If the 147/156 GTA are any indication, this thing will be a nightmare to own. I have an EVO buyer's guide I bought a few years ago, and those things were problematic AF. I wouldn't touch an Alfa with a 10 foot pole.

[Payman]

You are a glutton for punishment in the interest of contrarianism though.... most people won't put up with this horseshit to feel like they are different.

If the 147/156 GTA are any indication, this thing will be a nightmare to own. I have an EVO buyer's guide I bought a few years ago, and those things were problematic AF. I wouldn't touch an Alfa with a 10 foot pole.

Would you touch a Ferrari? How about a Lamborghini? They are the most unreliable cars you can buy. High strung engines that need constant service, and timing and top end overhauls well before 100,000 miles. In buying a unique car, you have to accept that you aren't buying a plebeian mainstreamer. I love cars that have charm and character, as well as a real, romantic history. Real enthusiasts understand this.

[giant_mtb]

Would you touch a Ferrari? How about a Lamborghini? They are the most unreliable cars you can buy. High strung engines that need constant service, and timing and top end overhauls well before 100,000 miles. In buying a unique car, you have to accept that you aren't buying a plebeian mainstreamer. I love cars that have charm and character, as well as a real, romantic history. Real enthusiasts understand this.

If I could afford a Ferrari or Lambo, I'd try to make it a point to be involved in or at least actively observe the services, just for the hell of it if they let me.  Then I'd know stuff.