Sporty G37 thread

Started by 12,000 RPM, March 14, 2017, 07:19:57 PM

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Quote from: giant_mtb on March 31, 2017, 06:23:33 PM
You don't have a bed?

Maybe wifey would get jealous that he's sleeping with his brakes in their bed.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 31, 2017, 06:07:16 PM
Nice chops!

Thanks!

I think this wheel style looks pretty neat on the Infiniti. Just make sure to change the logo!  :lol:

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12,000 RPM

Did the front brakes on the G and bedded them in. Sucks how one mod exposes the need for others.... the tires are truly awful and the suspension is just too soft. The brakes are awesome though. Great feel and next to no fade after 7 stops down from 60-70. ABS is pretty ugly in this thing though. Cannot wait to get better tires though OMG
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Can you buy some Fortune Auto coilovers for it already.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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12,000 RPM

No coilovers, they all clunk

I need better tires first. 255 square
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CaminoRacer

A good set of conventional springs are better than cheap coilovers IMO. Plus some Bilstein shocks.
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12,000 RPM

Even the good coilovers clunk. I don't know what's going on. Koni has never steered me wrong though... they will button it down. Gonna give it time though. Main priority right now is the tires and even with that I have to wait until they wear. Its almost like the Civic all over again
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 18, 2017, 01:55:14 PM
OK, FINE.




LOL Saw your new sig pic and had to go find this thread, not sure how I missed it. Congrats!  Looks like it has all the goodies I fantasize about, minus the A/T but that's becoming inevitable.
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12,000 RPM

Thanks man. Nissan MTs are awful, so I know from experience I'm not missing anything. And it's nice for wifey to be able to drive it. She likes it
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565

Congrats, G35/37s are taking over this forum

Don't they say that the Hotchkis sway bar kit is like the best mod of all time for G37?

I was going to get a set for the G37x because the X rear sway bear is the thickness of dental floss and makes the rear end flop all over the place.

But I hear the Hotchkis sway bar set is a great upgrade even for the RWD G37s (all RWD G37s use the same sway bars regardless of S or non S)




12,000 RPM

I will see about a RSB after I do the springs/shocks. The one on the Civic was about as thick as macaroni, but after the coilovers I was like "meh would be nice". I'd rather put that money into shit like spherical tie rods and maybe some harder bushings.
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Char

Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.

12,000 RPM

This thing wants to kick the tail out so bad. Thank God for stability control. Def gonna look into mods that make it more neutral
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 08, 2017, 11:39:46 AM
This thing wants to kick the tail out so bad. Thank God for stability control. Def gonna look into mods that make it more neutral

Mod #1: driver training. Kick the tail so bad, really?
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It's nuts how much better looking these are (especially in S trim) than the Q50


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Raza

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 08, 2017, 11:39:46 AM
This thing wants to kick the tail out so bad. Thank God for stability control. Def gonna look into mods that make it more neutral

Are you sure it's not just the tires?  A family sedan tuned from factory for oversteer sounds really unlikely.
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Quote from: Raza  on April 08, 2017, 10:06:53 PM

Are you sure it's not just the tires?  A family sedan tuned from factory for oversteer sounds really unlikely.

Even with crappy tires, a car that's tuned for understeer will tend towards understeer.  It will just do so at a lower limit.  Unless you do something to un-balance it like putting sticky tires up front and crappy ones in the back, but then you've adjusted the fundamental handling balance and tuning.

Even a car that's tuned to tend towards understeer will oversteer if you drive in a ham-fisted fashion.  Things like hammering the throttle wide-open too soon while exiting a turn.  The sort of stuff you can do with impunity in a <150 hp FWD car and not really be punished for because it will either not have enough power to overwhelm the drive tires, just spin the inside tire and still go the direction you want to go, or just push into some understeer.
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Raza

Quote from: MX793 on April 09, 2017, 06:07:25 AM
Even with crappy tires, a car that's tuned for understeer will tend towards understeer.  It will just do so at a lower limit.  Unless you do something to un-balance it like putting sticky tires up front and crappy ones in the back, but then you've adjusted the fundamental handling balance and tuning.

Even a car that's tuned to tend towards understeer will oversteer if you drive in a ham-fisted fashion.  Things like hammering the throttle wide-open too soon while exiting a turn.  The sort of stuff you can do with impunity in a <150 hp FWD car and not really be punished for because it will either not have enough power to overwhelm the drive tires, just spin the inside tire and still go the direction you want to go, or just push into some understeer.

I figured it would have more worn tires at the back than at the front, being RWD.  That's how mine always went.
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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 08, 2017, 12:17:02 PM
Mod #1: driver training. Kick the tail so bad, really?
I don't drive this any harder than any other car I've owned (including the RWD Z) and none of them were like this. Gs are known for lift off oversteer.... I've driven some, even the Xs, that have the same issue. And I do driver training daily.[/img] I'm gonna chill with these cheap tires but we will see if it gets better with better ones
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 09, 2017, 07:29:12 AM
I don't drive this any harder than any other car I've owned (including the RWD Z) and none of them were like this. Gs are known for lift off oversteer.... I've driven some, even the Xs, that have the same issue. And I do driver training daily.[/img] I'm gonna chill with these cheap tires but we will see if it gets better with better ones

I've never experienced lift off oversteer on the street, only power-on oversteer that is provoked by my right foot - mostly intentional. Is the weather really bad over there? I'd imagine you'd have to be driving much too fast or aggressively to do lift off oversteer on the street.
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12,000 RPM

Naw this was in the dry. Just taking a left turn with some zest, but again no differently than I've done in any of my other cars
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In my experience, you need to be pushing pretty hard to initiate lift oversteer on dry pavement, even with so-so tires.  Harder than you should ever drive on public roads.
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I wandered around the Infiniti showroom last week, while my G was being serviced. With the possible exception of the Q60 Red Sport, everything left me cold.
A Honda showroom is more interesting.
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Quote from: MX793 on April 09, 2017, 09:15:04 AM
In my experience, you need to be pushing pretty hard to initiate lift oversteer on dry pavement, even with so-so tires.  Harder than you should ever drive on public roads.

+1. Frankly, it's very hard to get into lift oversteer even at the track unless you purposely upset the car with mid corner or trail braking. A part of me thinks what Sporty is getting is power oversteer which is more believable to me. His car's balance ain't that different to mine.
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Yeah to get lift throttle oversteer where the car is actually yawing (😂), you've got to have the foot fairly planted on the gas and the car at the limit, and come completely off the throttle. Which is a pretty ham fisted move
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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on April 09, 2017, 10:57:07 AM
+1. Frankly, it's very hard to get into lift oversteer even at the track unless you purposely upset the car with mid corner or trail braking. A part of me thinks what Sporty is getting is power oversteer which is more believable to me. His car's balance ain't that different to mine.

LTO in a RWD car, even a slightly front-heavy one, with staggered width tires is fairly difficult to initiate.  Especially with an automatic, since they don't tend to engine brake as strongly.  You need to be driving really aggressively.  You may need to add a little jab of the brake to upset the chassis enough to get it to really rotate.  Longer wheelbase makes it that much harder.  Something small like a Miata is a little easier to coax some LTO out of.  I actually have an easier time coaxing off-throttle oversteer out of FWD cars than RWD.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 09, 2017, 07:29:12 AM
I don't drive this any harder than any other car I've owned (including the RWD Z) and none of them were like this. Gs are known for lift off oversteer.... I've driven some, even the Xs, that have the same issue. And I do driver training daily.[/img] I'm gonna chill with these cheap tires but we will see if it gets better with better ones

Yeah, but you play Forza.

If you're getting oversteer or need to thank god for ESC on dry, public pavement, slow the fuck down, dude.  Save that for the AutoX, I mean, video games.

Char

Quote from: Morris Minor on April 09, 2017, 09:32:38 AM
I wandered around the Infiniti showroom last week, while my G was being serviced. With the possible exception of the Q60 Red Sport, everything left me cold.
A Honda showroom is more interesting.

Not a fan of anything they make currently (infiniti) But no, stock car shouldn't be kicking it's rear out. He either has improperly inflated tires, a blow shock ans/or he's driving like an ass.
Quote from: 565 on December 26, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
... Nissan needs to use these shocks on the GT-R.  It would be like the Incredible Hulk wielding Thor's hammer.... unstoppable.

Rich

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