All-New 2019 Mazda3 Looks Sleek Inside And Out In Best Photos Yet

[Payman]

Shit I'd love for them to make an MX-3 or MX-6 out of the 6 and 3. It won't happen however.


I saw an MX-3 GS today, first one in years. Made me miss my old car.

I had a '92 Nissan NX2000. I haven't seen another in 20 years.

[Soup DeVille]

Honestly, how many of you are doing over the shoulder checks anymore?

In the 4Runner - every time
S2000 - everytime, but the top is always down so I can see everything
Accord - never.  Blind spot monitoring is great.  Once you get used to the lights, you just trust those more than a quick head check.

Motorcycles don't always show up.

[Laconian]

The 3 has a HUD which displays blindspot detector warnings.

[BimmerM3]

Anyways, it's the B pillar that creates blindspots, not the C. Partly why I prefer the longer doors of a coupe.

I do not agree with that lol

I can't see shit on the right side if the passenger-side rear seat headrest is up in the Explorer because it blocks 100% of the cargo window on that side.

But I also adjust my side mirrors way wider than most people. Moves the blind spot a bit further back, but also makes it waaaaay smaller.

[Laconian]

Do you guys know the trick to adjust your side mirrors to eliminate blind spots?

Put your left cheek to the driver mirror and move the driver's side mirror until you just barely see your car's sheet metal.
Move your head to the middle of the car, and again, move the passenger window until you barely see the sheet metal.

Voila, no blind spots.

[giant_mtb]

Do you guys know the trick to adjust your side mirrors to eliminate blind spots?

Put your left cheek to the driver mirror and move the driver's side mirror until you just barely see your car's sheet metal.
Move your head to the middle of the car, and again, move the passenger window until you barely see the sheet metal.

Voila, no blind spots.

pfff

[FoMoJo]

Do you guys know the trick to adjust your side mirrors to eliminate blind spots?

Put your left cheek to the driver mirror and move the driver's side mirror until you just barely see your car's sheet metal.
Move your head to the middle of the car, and again, move the passenger window until you barely see the sheet metal.

Voila, no blind spots.

I'm a little confused.  Put your left cheek to the driver mirror?   I don't think I could do that without being outside of the car.

[giant_mtb]

I'm a little confused.  Put your left cheek to the driver mirror?   I don't think I could do that without being outside of the car.

I believe he meant driverside window.

[BimmerM3]

Do you guys know the trick to adjust your side mirrors to eliminate blind spots?

Put your left cheek to the driver mirror and move the driver's side mirror until you just barely see your car's sheet metal.
Move your head to the middle of the car, and again, move the passenger window until you barely see the sheet metal.

Voila, no blind spots.

That's effectively what I do, but I was taught to do it by staying in your normal driving position (other than rotating your head, just no leaning) and adjusting your side mirrors so that there's no (or only a tiny) overlap between the rear view mirror and each side view mirror. When I do that, it leaves a tiny blind spot (that maybe a motorcycle could fit in, but very few if any cars), but I can lean like you're describing to see it if I need to.

[68_427]

How the hell are you supposed to see out of that thing? The visibility must be terrible.

[Laconian]

Uhhh yeah that's a cave lol

[Laconian]

And yes, I meant window

[MX793]

The roll down part of the rear side glass is almost identical. The gripes would be about the rear fixed quarter windows, and the previous car had a black plastic fillet that covered the back part of it.

That's not what he's talking about.  Look at the quarter panel sheetmetal above the rear wheel.  On the generation 2 and 3 cars, there's a crease/ridge in the metal that visually separates the top of the fender from the base of the C pillar, creating a sort of "shoulder".  That's what the gen 4 car needs.

[12,000 RPM]

Anyways, it's the B pillar that creates blindspots, not the C. Partly why I prefer the longer doors of a coupe.

Coupes can have terrible blind spots too. I used to make my wife guide me to parallel park the Z. And I used to parallel park damn near daily in NYC.

[Eye of the Tiger]

pfff

+1
I get the giant convex mirrors and cover up that useless flat mirror.

[r0tor]

Completely unsurprising... No t Mazdaspeed version... Or rotary couple for that matter.  Mazda as we know it is dead.


https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/03/mazda3-mazdaspeed-mps-hot-hatch/

[FoMoJo]

Much better pictures...




Nice looking car.

[CaminoRacer]

Looks good to me. Maybe a bit flat, but not offensive.

Charlie's 2nd pic (?) with the rear triangle window extended down does look better. The "kink" continued on from the 2018 model, but it probably shouldn't have.

[Eye of the Tiger]

It would look better with a huge turbo and 300 HP.

[MX793]

Completely unsurprising... Not Mazdaspeed version... Or rotary couple for that matter.  Mazda as we know it is dead.


https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/03/mazda3-mazdaspeed-mps-hot-hatch/

Mazda lost it's sugar daddy when Ford dumped them.  They're too small to go whole hog into niche segments like hot hatches.  Not when the market wants EVs, PHEVs, and automation (technologies Mazda doesn't have and doubtfully has the money to develop).  We should count our lucky stars they are still making the Miata (and that is likely only because Fiat went in as partners on a roadster).

[12,000 RPM]

Are hot hatches niche? IIRC the GTI outsells the regular Golf in the US. Hyundai/Kia just launched 1 hot hatch and 2 warm sedans. Honda brought back the CTR. There's the Golf R. For all Mazda's talk of driving, and the money they just spent developing that 2.5T, seems like a slam dunk. They have to get every bit of volume they can grab.

[MX793]

Are hot hatches niche? IIRC the GTI outsells the regular Golf in the US. Hyundai/Kia just launched 1 hot hatch and 2 warm sedans. Honda brought back the CTR. There's the Golf R. For all Mazda's talk of driving, and the money they just spent developing that 2.5T, seems like a slam dunk. They have to get every bit of volume they can grab.

Which sells more worldwide: regular Golf or GTI?  And by what margin?  Also bear in mind that, like the Mustang, the GTI was segment-defining.  It can endure downturns in the segment that other, less-storied competitors cannot (hence why the Mustang is the only pony car to last 50+ years of continuous production while competitors have come and gone, and in some cases come back again).

Ford canned their hot hatches.  So did GM (a long time ago).  Subaru stopped selling a WRX hatch.  It's not just hatches.  Hot econocars in general are dwindling, especially in North America.  Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota, and Mazda have all bailed on the segment within the past decade.

[FoMoJo]

Which sells more worldwide: regular Golf or GTI?  And by what margin?  Also bear in mind that, like the Mustang, the GTI was segment-defining.  It can endure downturns in the segment that other, less-storied competitors cannot (hence why the Mustang is the only pony car to last 50+ years of continuous production while competitors have come and gone, and in some cases come back again).

Ford canned their hot hatches.  So did GM (a long time ago).  Subaru stopped selling a WRX hatch.  It's not just hatches.  Hot econocars in general are dwindling, especially in North America.  Ford, GM, Chrysler/Dodge, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota, and Mazda have all bailed on the segment within the past decade.

Ford is no longer making their ST and RS models?

[12,000 RPM]

Ford is no longer making their ST and RS models?

They're not bringing them to the US... for now.

[Xer0]

Are hot hatches niche? IIRC the GTI outsells the regular Golf in the US. Hyundai/Kia just launched 1 hot hatch and 2 warm sedans. Honda brought back the CTR. There's the Golf R. For all Mazda's talk of driving, and the money they just spent developing that 2.5T, seems like a slam dunk. They have to get every bit of volume they can grab.

If Mazda dumps that 2.5 in a branded MPS 3 people will complain.  That is not a performance engine and from all the reviews I've read of it in the 6 its just kinda "eh".  Mazda definitely tested out this engine in the 3 at some point and was probably bored to tears and decided against it.  Mazda is very conservative about where its spending its resources and a performance engine that it can't dump in every application is probably not in the cards.  We should be thankful they updated the Miata's 2.0 but that car is literally the soul of Mazda so its a very special case. 

[MX793]

They're not bringing them to the US... for now.

I'm fairly certain they've shelved the RS world-wide.  Not sure what the status on the ST models in Europe is.

[r0tor]

As I have been pointing out, Mazda is no longer worried about being sporty and as the 3 is showing are spending money usually spent on performance/suspension on perceived quality items.  It's no longer the "zoom-zoom" company (I think they killed that a year or two ago).

Marumoto stated that Mazda would rather establish itself as a genuine premium carmaker comparable to its European rivals, stressing that this would be achievable through quality, comfort and refinement improvements in the existing lineup rather than expanding into other segments.

[Laconian]

It's "jinba ittai" now. Get with it!

[FoMoJo]

I'm fairly certain they've shelved the RS world-wide.  Not sure what the status on the ST models in Europe is.

As older article, but it seems that they plan to, gradually, electrify it...https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2020-ford-focus-rs-have-400bhp-425lb-ft-mild-hybrid-powertrain

[r0tor]

It's "jinba ittai" now. Get with it!

That's like 3 slogans old