Poll
Question:
What should my next car be?
Option 1: 1988-1993 5.0L LX
votes: 7
Option 2: 1994-1995 5.0L GT
votes: 2
Option 3: 1996-1998 4.6L GT
votes: 3
Option 4: 1999-2000 4.6L GT
votes: 10
Option 5: 2002-2003 Focus ZX3
votes: 6
Option 6: Other....
votes: 2
I would pick the 1996-1998 Mustang GT because it's probably the best balance between purchase price and mileage.
Focus, by a mile.
1987 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe :lol:
So, it's Focus vs. Mustang?
I'd take an SVT Focus, but I don't know if you can swing one of those. The ZX3 is a fine car, but considering how much you like power, I think the 4.6 is the best choice if you can't grab an SVT Focus. I like the 1999-2000.
My budget is $10,000. People are still getting $15,000 for a 2002 SVT Focus.
Uh, you're contemplating cars as old as 20 years?
Civic it, and be done with it. Your psyche needs the rest I think.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=11859.msg627427#msg627427 date=1193940718
So, it's Focus vs. Mustang?
...or if someone else has another suggestion I haven't thought of, I would like to hear it.
I voted 88-93. I think its the best looking one of the bunch, the later mustangs just look
overdone to me, the fake scoops and rear quarter inlet are horrible IMO and the later rounder cars look too bubbly.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 01, 2007, 12:18:46 PM
...or if someone else has another suggestion I haven't thought of, I would like to hear it.
As long as its a focus or mustang...right. ;)
The 3rd generation body style has a no nonsense look about it...and the 5.0 is a great engine with lots of aftermarket. The 4th generation seemed to have a melted look about it. Of course the 5th generation is awesome but it's not on your list yet.
I'd go with the 3rd gen.
As for the ZX3, a good choice but an entirely different experience.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 01, 2007, 12:26:21 PM
As long as its a focus or mustang...right. ;)
Not at all, it just has to be under $10K, reliable, fun, and good mileage (25 mpg or better).
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 01, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
Not at all, it just has to be under $10K, reliable, fun, and good mileage (25 mpg or better).
My Pulsar GTiR suggestion fits.
I picked the 99-00 GT. I used to have on 02GT I bought new. I beat the hell out of it, and never had any problems. I would assume you'd be doing a PI swap if you picked up the previous gen, but I like the looks of the 99+ better.
Quote from: Ron From Regina on November 01, 2007, 01:14:32 PM
I picked the 99-00 GT. I used to have on 02GT I bought new. I beat the hell out of it, and never had any problems. I would assume you'd be doing a PI swap if you picked up the previous gen, but I like the looks of the 99+ better.
I prefer the looks of the '96-'98 and I would be doing the exhaust and springs right away with a PI swap to follow.
Out of the cars I have to pick from then it would be the 88-93 Mustang. I think the other Mustangs are rather ugly.
LX 5.0
I want one.
SVO!
GTR!
Could you find a VW GTI in that range?
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 01, 2007, 03:04:28 PM
Could you find a VW GTI in that range?
Easily. As long as it's an MkIV. It'll be faster than the Focus, but the Focus would likely be more reliable than an MkIV GTI. I like them, but it might not be the best choice for him.
Quote from: Raza on November 01, 2007, 03:06:58 PM
Easily. As long as it's an MkIV. It'll be faster than the Focus, but the Focus would likely be more reliable than an MkIV GTI. I like them, but it might not be the best choice for him.
Damn. I would take one over a SVT Focus.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 01, 2007, 03:07:55 PM
Damn. I would take one over a SVT Focus.
When Car and Driver did a comparison between the GTI, Civic Si hatch and SVT Focus 3 door, the Focus came out on top, and the GTI came in last.
I'll add the cars that I'd look at in that price range.
Toyota 1990-99 MR2
Nissan 240SX both generations.
He just had a chev that blew to pieces on him, the last thing you would want after that is a VW.
Since he's in canada he could actually get a 180SX(the japanese market car)
that has the 200HP 2.0 Turbo in it.
I call for the 94-95 five-liter.
1999-2000.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 01, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
Not at all, it just has to be under $10K, reliable, fun, and good mileage (25 mpg or better).
And a V8 sports car is going to get 25?
Buy the newest car you can. With your run of bad luck maybe you should just get a bus ticket. :lol:
Quote from: Minpin on November 01, 2007, 07:53:18 PM
Buy the newest car you can. With your run of bad luck maybe you should just get a bus ticket. :lol:
Another vote for the bus pass! :rockon:
Miata
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 01, 2007, 08:03:19 PM
Another vote for the bus pass! :rockon:
Who suggested it before me?
ZX3 SVT, in red.
Or, the 99-00 GT. Those are respectable cars.
Quote from: Minpin on November 01, 2007, 08:06:36 PM
Who suggested it before me?
I meant you, plus me = another.
Quote from: CMan on November 01, 2007, 07:52:10 PM
And a V8 sports car is going to get 25?
The 1999-1998 Mustang GT gets 27 mpg on the highway. My car achieved that all the time before I modded it. Modifications won't be anywhere near as extreme this time so the mileage won't be adversely affected.
Quote from: JYODER240 on November 01, 2007, 08:05:43 PM
Miata
OMG! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's funny.
Actually the Miata Fits your criteria pretty well.
"Not at all, it just has to be under $10K, reliable, fun, and good mileage (25 mpg or better)."
Once again are you actually enteraining things that meet your stated criteria or is it anything that fits the above and has a ford badge on it(mustang emblem to be specific).
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 02, 2007, 09:28:35 AM
Actually the Miata Fits your criteria pretty well.
"Not at all, it just has to be under $10K, reliable, fun, and good mileage (25 mpg or better)."
Once again are you actually enteraining things that meet your stated criteria or is it anything that fits the above and has a ford badge on it(mustang emblem to be specific).
Well, I don't see a Mustang logo on a Focus. The Miata fits my requirements except one...I don't fit. i've tried a couple times and it's not the least bit comfortable for me. Besides, even if I could fit comfortably, you already know my feelings on the Miata.
Actually i don't, but i'm well aware of your feelings on the mustang(you talk about them alot). Otherwise i really don't know your feelings on any other car, unless you hold the general misguided opinion that miata = gay.
The Focus is a very good car. There are a lot of features that I like about it. I like the perfectly weighted steering, 28 mpg, comfortable seats, good radio, good heater, etc.
I just wish it had better paint, a better gearbox and more power.
First, I don't like convertibles. Second, Miata styling = boring. Very non-descript styling. There's no flare, nothing that strikes a chord with me. It's just "meh".
I rode in my boss's Mini Cooper S last night, and that is one cool ass car. Even as a passenger I was having fun. My one and only complaint is the speedometer. That thing is just as big as the plate I ate my dinner off of after my ride. It's HUGE and in the middle right where my wife would be able to see it. My other complaint is that I can't find one in my price range.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 09:55:34 AM
I rode in my boss's Mini Cooper S last night, and that is one cool ass car. Even as a passenger I was having fun. My one and only complaint is the speedometer. That thing is just as big as the plate I ate my dinner off of after my ride. It's HUGE and in the middle right where my wife would be able to see it. My other complaint is that I can't find one in my price range.
:lol:
The non S models could be found for cheap(high miles though) and it obviously wouldn't be as fun as the S.
I already looked and there are no Minis in my entire province for sale for under $10K.
Buy a Mustang. If you buy another car, you're just going to pine for a Mustang until you break down and buy one anyway.
It seems that you're in love with one anyway, so just make it easy on yourself.
I chose the '99 to 2000 model. It's the one with likely the fewest miles and in best condition
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 01, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
Not at all, it just has to be under $10K, reliable, fun, and good mileage (25 mpg or better).
There're some Mazda3s that would fit your budget around here.
http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=116950&adid=6513907 (http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=116950&adid=6513907)
http://www.trader.ca/search/Results.asp?BFROM=1&BAD=N&BPRICE=N&BTYPE=B&BCAT=1&BOREGION=-1&BYEAR1=2003&BYEAR2=2005&BPRICE1=&BPRICE2=&BKEYWORD=&BMAKE=739&BMODEL=MAZDA+3&BMAKENAME=MAZDA&category=1®ion=-1&makeid=739&modelcode=187969&adcopy=&multiphoto=N&SortBy=askprice&SortOrder=a&DisplayType=&DisplayRowCount=&mknm=739&mdnm=MAZDA+3&subcategory=&CAT=1# (http://www.trader.ca/search/Results.asp?BFROM=1&BAD=N&BPRICE=N&BTYPE=B&BCAT=1&BOREGION=-1&BYEAR1=2003&BYEAR2=2005&BPRICE1=&BPRICE2=&BKEYWORD=&BMAKE=739&BMODEL=MAZDA+3&BMAKENAME=MAZDA&category=1®ion=-1&makeid=739&modelcode=187969&adcopy=&multiphoto=N&SortBy=askprice&SortOrder=a&DisplayType=&DisplayRowCount=&mknm=739&mdnm=MAZDA+3&subcategory=&CAT=1#)
A Mazda3 would be great but I can't get any under $10K in BC or Alberta. :(
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 09:55:34 AM
I rode in my boss's Mini Cooper S last night, and that is one cool ass car. Even as a passenger I was having fun. My one and only complaint is the speedometer. That thing is just as big as the plate I ate my dinner off of after my ride. It's HUGE and in the middle right where my wife would be able to see it. My other complaint is that I can't find one in my price range.
There's a fairly rare pack that moves the speedometer to the proper position, and the satnav system does that as well. The R50 Cooper might be in your price range. Low on power, but still loads of fun (I bet), and and exceptional MPG.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 02, 2007, 10:17:01 AM
:lol:
The non S models could be found for cheap(high miles though) and it obviously wouldn't be as fun as the S.
Some people actually find the standard model more fun than the S.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=11859.msg628676#msg628676 date=1194024734
There's a fairly rare pack that moves the speedometer to the proper position, and the satnav system does that as well. The R50 Cooper might be in your price range. Low on power, but still loads of fun (I bet), and and exceptional MPG.
There isn't a single Mini for sale in BC or Alberta from any year since it was first produced for under $10K. :(
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 11:34:57 AM
There isn't a single Mini for sale in BC or Alberta from any year since it was first produced for under $10K. :(
I don't have to tell you this, but if it's within a grand or two, you could talk it down. For sale prices on used cars are never stone set.
True, but I don't want to spend $10K if I don't have to. I would rather start with a car at $10K and work them down a grand and use that $1000 on mods. If I spend $10K I have no money left for mods.
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on November 02, 2007, 10:32:08 AM
Buy a Mustang. If you buy another car, you're just going to pine for a Mustang until you break down and buy one anyway.
It seems that you're in love with one anyway, so just make it easy on yourself.
I agree. It's fun to think about getting something different, but at the end of the day, you want what you want. So just buy the best Mustang that you willing to spend money on. You'll sleep better.
Sure, it was fun test driving turbocharged hatchbacks and trendy boxmobiles, but the whole time my heart longed for another entry-lux sedan. So I followed my heart. As should you :wub:
Very true. I will most likely end up with a Mustang in the 1996 to 2000 range depending on the mileage and purchase price. I like the looks of this one:
1997 Mustang GT (http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=30300874&pgno=1&srt=1)
The mileage is a little high, but as long as it passes a leak down test it's a good car to go with.
Go older, save money, and mod more.
I think any 10 year old stang(or older) is going to need some cash put into it
to bring it up to your standards(meaning tight feeling, prev repairs, etc).
I'd think you would need to replace some wear items(ball joints, tie rods, some mounts and bushings) to bring her back to feeling good.
Going with a early 90's one would leave you enough money to restore it to showroom tight and leave you plenty to upgrade here and there on the way(suspension, brakes, misc interior).
Or if you get an old one you will have 5-7K for neon lights, altezza's, 24" blades, dozens of adhesive applied performance pieces and a piss on chev sticker.
Whichever option you choose.
The early 90's 5.0L Mustangs are going for as much or more then 10 year old cars. There are fewer and fewer of them around and the ones that are remaining are going up in value.
This is the best deal I could find on an LX 5.0L that is in good condition.
1991 LX 5.0L (http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=30202033&pgno=12&srt=70)
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 12:25:03 PM
Very true. I will most likely end up with a Mustang in the 1996 to 2000 range depending on the mileage and purchase price. I like the looks of this one:
1997 Mustang GT (http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=30300874&pgno=1&srt=1)
The mileage is a little high, but as long as it passes a leak down test it's a good car to go with.
Leak down test won't spot a bad bearing (which has stung you twice in the last month or so).
Quote from: GoCougs on November 01, 2007, 12:18:37 PM
Uh, you're contemplating cars as old as 20 years?
Civic it, and be done with it. Your psyche needs the rest I think.
The Civic isn't any cheaper to start with than the Focus, and it's not much cheaper than a Mustang. It also holds its value better than either of them, which means he'll have to settle for an OLDER Civic compared to his other choices.
Quite frankly, I think Civics make up some of the worst used-car deals. They're just too damn expensive.
Quote from: Tave on November 02, 2007, 12:59:25 PM
Quite frankly, I think Civics make up some of the worst used-car deals. They're just too damn expensive.
not if you plan to sell it again
Quote from: GoCougs on November 02, 2007, 12:57:18 PM
Leak down test won't spot a bad bearing (which has stung you twice in the last month or so).
No, but a leak down test will tell me if it's going to need a rebuild or if it's a modifiable car.
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 02, 2007, 01:00:58 PM
not if you plan to sell it again
Which is why they're a great car to buy new. I have a feeling flipping this car isn't a priority for Hemi.
It's not. If I get a Mustang I'm keeping it so that it can eventually be passed down to one of my kids. If I buy a Focus, Civic, etc. the car will be driven until it dies. I drove the Sunfire until it died twice.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 02, 2007, 12:30:03 PM
Go older, save money, and mod more.
I don't think that's how it works.
My Z is just now getting to be reliable. When you buy an old car, you get old ball joints, old trans, old water pump, old seals, old brake calipers, old shocks, etc. You can't replace all of them all at once (although sometimes it feels like you have to). And the replacement parts you get often don't last as long as the OEM stuff.
Why do you think I got a 2002 Ford Focus? I didn't want the headaches of all those old parts on a daily driver.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/S2-1989-Porsche-944-Turbo-Coupe-Manual-2-5L-L4-FI-SOHC_W0QQitemZ160175075023QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6434QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
951 anyone?
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 12:25:03 PM
Very true. I will most likely end up with a Mustang in the 1996 to 2000 range depending on the mileage and purchase price. I like the looks of this one:
1997 Mustang GT (http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=30300874&pgno=1&srt=1)
The mileage is a little high, but as long as it passes a leak down test it's a good car to go with.
I've always wondered why it's called "mileage" if you're talking about kilometers.
:huh:
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on November 02, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
I don't think that's how it works.
My Z is just now getting to be reliable. When you buy an old car, you get old ball joints, old trans, old water pump, old seals, old brake calipers, old shocks, etc. You can't replace all of them all at once (although sometimes it feels like you have to). And the replacement parts you get often don't last as long as the OEM stuff.
Why do you think I got a 2002 Ford Focus? I didn't want the headaches of all those old parts on a daily driver.
Did you read the rest of my post?
I clearly stated that money would have to be spent to bring it up to solid condition(things like ball joints, tie rods,etc). I believe that you would have to replace these things in either an 91 mustang or a 97 mustang. Anything over 10 years normally needs these things, unless it is a highly pampered low mileage car which i think is unlikely in the case of a 10 year old mustang(people bought them and drove them daily).
You haven't really driven many "sporty" cars outside of Mustangs. I'd atleast go test drive something different.
Quote from: HEMI666 on October 11, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
There are more, but my memory is terrible. They were either not memorable or not worth mentioning:
Up to 1969
1. 1948 Ford Pickup hot rod
2. 1951 Chevy Pickup hot rod
3. 1965 Mustang 289
1970-1979
1. 1971 Mustang Mach 1
2. 1977 Mercury Cougar 460
3. 1978 Chrysler Cordoba
4. 1979 Honda Civic 2dr hatchback (I still want one)
1980-1989
1. 1981 F-250
2. 1987 Mustang GT Cobra
3. 1988 Mustang GT Cobra
4. 1988 Camaro Z28
5. 1988 Ranger 4x4 with a 3" lift
6. 1989 Ford F-150
1990-1999
1. 1991 Mustang LX 5.0L notchback (one of my favourites)
2. 1991 F-150
3. 1991 GMC pickup
4. 1992 Ford Explorer
5. 1993 Mustang GT
6. 1993 F-250
7. 1994 Ford Explorer
8. 1996 Mustang GT
9. 1997 F-150
10. 1997 Pontiac Firebird WS6 (385 RWHP)
11. 1999 Mustang GT
2000-2007
1. 2000 Pontiac Sunfire GT
2. 2001 Mustang GT
3. 2001 SVT Cobra
4. 2002 Mustang GT
5. 2002 Subaru WRX
6. 2003 SVT Cobra
7. 2003 Mustang GT
8. 2003 Olds Alero
9. 2004 Mustang GT
10. 2005 Dodge Ram
11. 2005 F-150
12. 2005 GMC Sierra
13. 2006 Mustang GT
14. 2006 Magnum R/T
15. 2007 Mustang GT
16. 2007 Mazda3 5 door hatch
17. 2007 Mazda6 GT
18. 2007 Cobalt SS Supercharged
19. 2007 Freestyle SEL
20. 2007 Edge
21. 2007 Fusion SEL
My vote is for a '99-00 GT.
Quote from: JYODER240 on November 02, 2007, 07:34:48 PM
You haven't really driven many "sporty" cars outside of Mustangs. I'd atleast go test drive something different.
There's not much else in the price range that speaks to me, so why would I? Give me some cars in the Mustang's price range you think I should be interested in.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 10:07:44 PM
There's not much else in the price range that speaks to me, so why would I? Give me some cars in the Mustang's price range you think I should be interested in.
Camaro.
(http://now-hiring.ca/nh_images/job-logo.jpg)
:rockon:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 02, 2007, 10:10:40 PM
(http://now-hiring.ca/nh_images/job-logo.jpg)
:rockon:
I don't live in Calgary anymore. :nutty:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 10:20:30 PM
I don't live in Calgary anymore. :nutty:
Oh. BC transit, then. :lol:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 10:07:44 PM
There's not much else in the price range that speaks to me, so why would I? Give me some cars in the Mustang's price range you think I should be interested in.
We talking new or used here?
One should not ask a question if they are not willing to hear the answer.
Quote from: NACar on November 02, 2007, 10:09:23 PM
Camaro.
I shouldn't even dignify this one with a response. :lol:
Besides I can only get fairly high mileage cars or more then 12 years old for $10K.
Quote from: NACar on November 02, 2007, 10:25:54 PM
One should not ask a question if they are not willing to hear the answer.
I'm being criticized for only considering Mustangs, and I'm telling you people why it's that way.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 10:34:38 PM
I shouldn't even dignify this one with a response. :lol:
Besides I can only get fairly high mileage cars or more then 12 years old for $10K.
If you don't want a Camaro, then you will be stuck with something boring. :evildude:
$10k? A brand spankin' new Hyundai Accent hatch, no options. If the engine blows up, it has a 10-year warranty or something like that.
A Camaro is too much car for him. He can only handle Ford's wimply little OHC V8 motors.
Believe me I prefer the power of the Camaro and the Camaro is actually easier and cheaper to modify, but I prefer the Mustang's styling and interior packaging. The Mustang may not be as fast, but it's most certainly the better car.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 10:47:23 PM
Believe me I prefer the power of the Camaro and the Camaro is actually easier and cheaper to modify, but I prefer the Mustang's styling and interior packaging. The Mustang may not be as fast, but it's most certainly the better car.
Yup. :devil:
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/02.35th.anv.chevrolet.camaro/02.chevrolet.camaross35thanv.int.500.jpg)
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1999-2000-2001-2002-2003-2004-ford-mustang-15.jpg)
It's like saying pee smells better than barf. It's true, but it's not saying much.
:hesaid:
Believe what you will, but as someone who has owned a 1996 Mustang GT (400+ hp NA) and has a brother-in-law with a 1997 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 (400+ hp NA) and a 1997 Camaro SS (600+ hp NA), the Mustang is definitely the better car. It's more comfortable, more reliable, has a usable trunk, is easier to get in and out of, has better outward visibility, and well...just plain looks better too. Both my brother-in-laws cars are stupid fast, but they are also uncomfortable and they have that stupid catalytic converter hump in the floor.
Since both interiors suck, I'd go with the one with the awesome motor.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 10:56:05 PM
Believe what you will, but as someone who has owned a 1996 Mustang GT (400+ hp NA) and has a brother-in-law with a 1997 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 (400+ hp NA) and a 1997 Camaro SS (600+ hp NA), the Mustang is definitely the better car. It's more comfortable, more reliable, has a usable trunk, is easier to get in and out of, has better outward visibility, and well...just plain looks better too. Both my brother-in-laws cars are stupid fast, but they are also uncomfortable and they have that stupid catalytic converter hump in the floor.
Muscle cars aren't supposed to be comfortable, reliable, or practical...
but we all know you love Mustangs, so stop trying to rationalize it and just get one already.
I'm not trying to rationalize anything.
Why don't you just drive the Ram?
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 02, 2007, 11:09:58 PM
I'm not trying to rationalize anything.
Yes you are, otherwise this thread wouldn't exist, and you'd already have a Mustang.
These are what I'd buy for 10K
(http://i21.ebayimg.com/01/a/000/77/c8/abdd_4.JPG)
(http://classiccarfair.com/1992_nissan300zx_rf34_557x314.jpg)
(http://www.pickupspecialties.com/Aero_Turbine/Exhaust_photos/wrx_big.jpg)
I'd throw a 180SX on the above list, they are now legal for importation in most of canada i do believe.
Quote from: 565 on November 03, 2007, 12:47:56 AM
These are what I'd buy for 10K
(http://i21.ebayimg.com/01/a/000/77/c8/abdd_4.JPG)
I was just looking that this RX-7 the otherr day. I will have one if it kills me.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on November 02, 2007, 11:27:31 PM
Why don't you just drive the Ram?
I will be driving it until the lease is up in March. At that point I will be giving the truck back and buying a used car. The truck was costing me $100 every 5 days in fuel alone so that's why I won't be keeping the truck after March.
Quote from: Onslaught on November 03, 2007, 08:07:15 AM
I was just looking that this RX-7 the otherr day. I will have one if it kills me.
Getting one won't kill you, owning one....well thats a different story. :lol:
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 03, 2007, 09:11:01 AM
Getting one won't kill you, owning one....well thats a different story. :lol:
I'll die happy. And in a great looking coffin.
Buy the newest Mustang you can. A-buh.
:lol:
Quote from: 565 on November 03, 2007, 12:47:56 AM
These are what I'd buy for 10K
RX-7
I said "reliable". I would love to own one of these cars but they are still very expensive around here and very fragile.
QuoteNissan 300ZX
Another car I would like to own, but all the 300ZX's in my province that are under $10K are either 16 years old or very high mileage.
QuoteWRX
An intriguing suggestion, however there is not a single one available in the entire province under $10K.
Quote from: Psilos on November 03, 2007, 02:06:43 PM
Buy the newest Mustang you can. A-buh.
:lol:
It's gonna end up being a compromise I think. The newest and lowest mileage possible for under $9K so that I have $1K to play with for suspension and exhaust.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 03, 2007, 09:02:42 AM
The truck was costing me $100 every 5 days in fuel alone so that's why I won't be keeping the truck after March.
Ah-ha. That's the answer I was looking for.
Sounds like you want a Focus. :ohyeah:
A V8 Mustang would probably not be much of an improvement over a truck.
not so 280, i'm sure mustangs are like maro's and vettes. 30+ mpg on the highway, etc.
In real world 50/50 city/highway i'm sure it will be just as bad as the truck unless hemi drives like an old lady.
Bottom line is if you value performance than you sacrifice MPG. I don't care about how many fantasy stories i hear about mid 30 tanks in a vette/camaro, it just isn't the norm.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 04, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
not so 280, i'm sure mustangs are like maro's and vettes. 30+ mpg on the highway, etc.
In real world 50/50 city/highway i'm sure it will be just as bad as the truck unless hemi drives like an old lady.
Bottom line is if you value performance than you sacrifice MPG. I don't care about how many fantasy stories i hear about mid 30 tanks in a vette/camaro, it just isn't the norm.
EPA on an LS1 Corvette is 28, and GRM stated that they've gotten over 30 many times.
Thats special, and hypermilers get 60MPG out of a base accord.
The point is simple, even though many cars are capable of more the typical driver will get between the EPA estimates(old ratings) and anyone with a heavy foot and spirited driving will get worse MPG.
I'm sure i could get 40MPG out of a camaro, realistically during normal driving with some spirited backroads it would drop to the low 20's. Thats the norm, mid 30's on freeway trips at 1500 rpms is not.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 04, 2007, 12:16:20 AM
Thats special, and hypermilers get 60MPG out of a base accord.
The point is simple, even though many cars are capable of more the typical driver will get between the EPA estimates(old ratings) and anyone with a heavy foot and spirited driving will get worse MPG.
I'm sure i could get 40MPG out of a camaro, realistically during normal driving with some spirited backroads it would drop to the low 20's. Thats the norm, mid 30's on freeway trips at 1500 rpms is not.
Anyone who loves driving should be able to table it for a commute.
I don't follow. What do you mean by table?
Its funny to me in an odd way thaat the '88 5.0 you posted has Kuwaiti plates... :lol:
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on November 04, 2007, 12:23:58 AM
I don't follow. What do you mean by table?
That's the snobby way of saying that you can drive economically for a commute if you want to get good mileage out of your fast car. ;) :lol:
I certainly never found that to be the case, and still don't, even with the boring truck. Whenever I drive, I do so as fast as is prudent (so to say).
Quote from: Psilos on November 04, 2007, 01:31:09 AM
That's the snobby way of saying that you can drive economically for a commute if you want to get good mileage out of your fast car. ;) :lol:
I certainly never found that to be the case, and still don't, even with the boring truck. Whenever I drive, I do so as fast as is prudent (so to say).
Are you calling me a snob?
I can live with that.
My last Mustang got 27 mpg on a regular basis on the highway and that's what 95% of my commute will be. In the city it was a little better then my Ram but not much, but that was also because it had 400 hp. Before I modded it, the mileage was better. My Ram gets 15 mpg on the highway and 12 in the city so a Mustang would be a dramatic improvement.
Then get a damn Mustang!
Quote from: CJ on November 04, 2007, 10:46:03 AM
Then get a damn Mustang!
Seriously... I don't even get the point of this thread... All you've done is shoot down our suggestions and have said why a Mustang is so much better...
Quote from: Raghavan on November 04, 2007, 10:47:30 AM
Seriously... I don't even get the point of this thread... All you've done is shoot down our suggestions and have said why a Mustang is so much better...
I think that
is the point!
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 04, 2007, 08:48:47 AM
My last Mustang got 27 mpg on a regular basis on the highway and that's what 95% of my commute will be. In the city it was a little better then my Ram but not much, but that was also because it had 400 hp. Before I modded it, the mileage was better. My Ram gets 15 mpg on the highway and 12 in the city so a Mustang would be a dramatic improvement.
(http://www.genmay.com/images/smilies/shensign.gif)
Quote from: Raghavan on November 04, 2007, 10:47:30 AM
Seriously... I don't even get the point of this thread... All you've done is shoot down our suggestions and have said why a Mustang is so much better...
The point of this thread was to see if there was anything I didn't think about and there was. After reviewing those options and investigating prices and what I could get for the money, the Mustang still came out on top. Show me where I was wrong.
Something is wrong here. This price can't be right.
2002 BMW M3 (http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=30335979&pgno=1&srt=7)
I can't see it. How much, and can you post some pics?
2002 BMW : 3-SERIES M3
2002 BMW M3 COUPE, Laguna Seca Blue, Grey Nappa leather, 6MT, 2 dr, 3.2 L, gas, 6 cyl, manual, RWD, cassette, sunroof 92,800 kms, $7,800. Ph (250) 248-8388. Parksville, BC.
This is it. This is the one you've been waiting for.2002 BMW M3, fully equipped with leather interior and topped off with the premium package.Never smoked in, this baby comes to you smelling just the way you like it... new. Ready for all the details? Make: BMW Model: M3 Year: 2002 Exterior Color: Laguna Seca Blue Interior Color: Gray Nappa Leather Transmission: 6MT Miles: 93K Extras: Premium Package (Xenon Lights, Power Sunroof, Power Seats, Harmon Kardon Sound System, etc.) Maintenence up to date. All these items are OEM and have less than 2000 miles on them: -OEM ignition coils -OEM water pump, thermister, etc -OEM alternator -OEM A/C resistors -Oil and Filter (Changed 7-21-07) Performance Mods: -Stainless steel headers (No Cats, o2 Sensors Bypassed)
For some reason I can't post the pictures, but the car looks like showroom condition.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 05, 2007, 04:05:07 PM
2002 BMW : 3-SERIES M3
2002 BMW M3 COUPE, Laguna Seca Blue, Grey Nappa leather, 6MT, 2 dr, 3.2 L, gas, 6 cyl, manual, RWD, cassette, sunroof 92,800 kms, $7,800. Ph (250) 248-8388. Parksville, BC.
This is it. This is the one you've been waiting for.2002 BMW M3, fully equipped with leather interior and topped off with the premium package.Never smoked in, this baby comes to you smelling just the way you like it... new. Ready for all the details? Make: BMW Model: M3 Year: 2002 Exterior Color: Laguna Seca Blue Interior Color: Gray Nappa Leather Transmission: 6MT Miles: 93K Extras: Premium Package (Xenon Lights, Power Sunroof, Power Seats, Harmon Kardon Sound System, etc.) Maintenence up to date. All these items are OEM and have less than 2000 miles on them: -OEM ignition coils -OEM water pump, thermister, etc -OEM alternator -OEM A/C resistors -Oil and Filter (Changed 7-21-07) Performance Mods: -Stainless steel headers (No Cats, o2 Sensors Bypassed)
Give them a call. If it works out (I'm a little skeptical), you'll be a changed man.
If that's the real price and the inspection and Carfax come back clean, then I will buy that car tomorrow. I would have to fly to Victoria and then drive 3 hours north to Parksville to buy it and then take a ferry back to the mainland and drive 4.5 hours back to Kelowna...but I would do it.
CALL!!!!!!!
The number goes to a fax machine, so I wrote an email. I'm just waiting for a response.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 05, 2007, 04:46:01 PM
The number goes to a fax machine, so I wrote an email. I'm just waiting for a response.
lol, I called the number too. I was gonna call and report to you what the dude said. But the number didn't go through.
If it seems too good to be true, it usually is.
Fingers crossed for the M3.
Quote from: sandertheshark on November 05, 2007, 05:51:45 PM
Fingers crossed for the M3.
If it works, another miracle has been performed by the BMW gods.
Damn. That sucker looks like it's in pretty damn good shape!
That is a scam, or the seller forgot to throw a another number in there.
For an M3?! BULL SHIT! I searched for a BMW under 10k and all I came up with was a 1998 528i with 240k on the clock.
That is either a scam or the car has a salvage title.
Sweet Jesus, Hemi, you should have learned from my Boxster "experience" earlier this year not to get your hopes up. That's a ridiculous price for an M3. For any 2002 BMW really, even a base 3. Even if it's a US car.
Sorry. Looks like a scam.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ320179270066QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6131QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ320179270066QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6131QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Quote from: Cobra93 on November 06, 2007, 07:43:49 AM
Sorry. Looks like a scam.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ320179270066QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6131QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ320179270066QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6131QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
I don't dig that grille.
Quote from: Raghavan on November 05, 2007, 10:46:21 PM
That is either a scam or the car has a salvage title.
Even with a salvage title the car would be worth thousands more.
I thought I just settled this. ;)
I knew it was too good to be true. I wasn't getting my hopes up either because I thought there was a number left out of the price. Oh and the palm trees looked a little suspect. How did you even find it on ebay?
Quote from: Cobra93 on November 06, 2007, 07:43:49 AM
Sorry. Looks like a scam.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ320179270066QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6131QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MUST-SELL_W0QQitemZ320179270066QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6131QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
I'm curious how you can tell it's a scam... it is because the Ebay car is in Florida, and the other one is in B.C.?
Quote from: NACar on November 06, 2007, 08:58:35 AM
I'm curious how you can tell it's a scam... it is because the Ebay car is in Florida, and the other one is in B.C.?
The pictures are identical. The write-up is identical.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 06, 2007, 09:03:07 AM
The pictures are identical. The write-up is identical.
Hmm... curious... both of the ads have different phone numbers; local area codes, I presume? Looks like the E-bay seller mostly does clothes and purses - until recently he started selling BMW parts. Maybe the seller is just inept. :lol:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 06, 2007, 09:03:07 AM
The pictures are identical. The write-up is identical.
What he said. :ohyeah:
As far as finding it on eBay, I just searched for BMW M3's. If you do the same, don't forget to search the completed listings also. I was looking for a replacement car for one of the kids a few months ago and ran across literally hundreds of scams on craigslist, autotrader, etc. If you see something that looks too good to be true, try searching some of the other auto sales sites. You'll probably find the original ad that the scammer took the pictures and description from.
Quote from: NACar on November 06, 2007, 09:08:30 AM
Hmm... curious... both of the ads have different phone numbers; local area codes, I presume? Looks like the E-bay seller mostly does clothes and purses - until recently he started selling BMW parts. Maybe the seller is just inept. :lol:
It's very possible that the eBay one is a scam too.
Ah... so perhaps just one of them is a scam, and one of them is real. I'd bet on the Ebay ad being the real one.
Sometimes I just wonder what the POINT of these scams are. You'll e-mail them, or call them, and then what do they do?
Quote from: NACar on November 06, 2007, 09:17:42 AM
Ah... so perhaps just one of them is a scam, and one of them is real. I'd bet on the Ebay ad being the real one.
Sometimes I just wonder what the POINT of these scams are. You'll e-mail them, or call them, and then what do they do?
They attempt to convince you to send them a deposit via Western Union. You can probably figure it out from there. ;)
Quote from: Cobra93 on November 06, 2007, 09:22:28 AM
They attempt to convince you to send them a deposit via Western Union. You can probably figure it out from there. ;)
Sure! Sounds like a deal! :thumbsup:
Quote from: NACar on November 06, 2007, 09:23:14 AM
Sure! Sounds like a deal! :thumbsup:
They also might be looking for a trusted contact to assist in transferring $380,000,000 USD out of Nigeria. :ohyeah:
Quote from: Cobra93 on November 06, 2007, 09:29:06 AM
They also might be looking for a trusted contact to assist in transferring $380,000,000 USD out of Nigeria. :ohyeah:
I've always wanted to reply to one of those e-mails and see how far I can take it. :lol:
Quote from: NACar on November 06, 2007, 09:30:12 AM
I've always wanted to reply to one of those e-mails and see how far I can take it. :lol:
I'll bet this guy (http://www.419eater.com/html/john_boko.htm) takes it further. :lol:
Quote from: Cobra93 on November 06, 2007, 09:51:03 AM
I'll bet this guy (http://www.419eater.com/html/john_boko.htm) takes it further. :lol:
Wow, that's pretty cool. I love the part about the hamster. :lol:
I just found a 1997 Mustang Cobra in Calgary with 85,000 kms on it for $9,998.00. I'm going back to Calgary this weekend so I'm going to have a look at it to make sure it's not too good to be true. If it is just someone who doesn't know what they have, then I may be buying the car earlier then I thought.
So, uh, the M3 is eliminated? Damn.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 06, 2007, 02:28:32 PM
I just found a 1997 Mustang Cobra in Calgary with 85,000 kms on it for $9,998.00. I'm going back to Calgary this weekend so I'm going to have a look at it to make sure it's not too good to be true. If it is just someone who doesn't know what they have, then I may be buying the car earlier then I thought.
That's a reasonable price. Remember that's the 305 hp DOHC, so don't go tangling with any 99+ Cobras or new GTs. ;)
People buy and sell cars right and left these days in Alberta; people coming and going, lots of money in the pocket so they'll sell cars cheap just to get them out of the driveway to make room for the new toy, etc.
Quote from: FordSVT on November 06, 2007, 03:00:56 PM
That's a reasonable price. Remember that's the 305 hp DOHC, so don't go tangling with any 99+ Cobras or new GTs. ;)
People buy and sell cars right and left these days in Alberta; people coming and going, lots of money in the pocket so they'll sell cars cheap just to get them out of the driveway to make room for the new toy, etc.
Apparently with just cams, the '97 Cobra will dyno 300 rwhp.
The '97 Cobra sold before I even called about it. The guy said the check engine light was on and the rear end needed work, so I wouldn't have bought it anyway.
I put those two symptoms together and I smell a hard-driven engine and a lot of fast take offs. Probably a well worn in car. Maybe the start of a project, but not an "as is" daily driver.
Exactly my thoughts. I've narrowed my search to '97-'99 GT's.
Brother, I really think you should "Pony up" and go for a 99, it's worth it and you know it. By the time you buy a slightly cheaper 97 or 98 and get it up to the 99+ output you'll have spent the same money anyways. And the 99+ has a slightly stronger block if you do intend to modify it further.
'99s in that price range are few and far between and if I can get a low mileage '97 or '98 I'll jump on it. The '99s in that price range are usually high mileage. If there is a '99 in that price range when the time comes and it's in good condition and the mileage is acceptable then I'm all over it man.
Just for kicks I priced a new GT on www.Ford.ca (http://www.ford.ca) and then priced out the same car on www.Ford.com (http://www.ford.com).
Ford.com: $28,902.00 USD = $26,863.00 CDN
Ford.ca: $37,822.00 CDN
If I could find a US dealer that would sell to me, I could buy the same Mustang GT in the US for $11,000 less. :banghead:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 07, 2007, 04:09:54 PM
'99s in that price range are few and far between and if I can get a low mileage '97 or '98 I'll jump on it. The '99s in that price range are usually high mileage. If there is a '99 in that price range when the time comes and it's in good condition and the mileage is acceptable then I'm all over it man.
Save up more money while you're waiting for the right car. I'm not trying to pressure you into something you don't want to do, but
you want to do this. :lol:
You've driven them both, you know the 99 is worth the extra few grand.
What happened to that $9800 BC car with 98,000 km?
It's been sold.
I just went and got a quote on insurance last night and I think I shit in my pants. Right now I'm paying $800 a year for the insurance on my truck, but in BC my rate is going to jump to $1800 with full discounts. That rate is with the government insurance company and they do have private carriers here and they are cheaper, but not by much. I will get a private quote tonight. I got a quote for a '98 Mustang GT too, and that was $1800 a year as well. I have 12 years of clean driving and it's a 9 year old car, and they want $1800 a year. I might just keep my Alberta plates for a while.
That is an insane increase in insurance rates. Is BC really that much more dangerous? :wtf:
Quote from: NACar on November 08, 2007, 09:10:14 AM
That is an insane increase in insurance rates. Is BC really that much more dangerous? :wtf:
It's more communist in BC.
I'm test driving a '97 Cobra tonight. It's got a p'n'p intake maniffold, X-pipe, flowmaster catback, long tube headers, and chip. It's red and has brand new Nitto 555s. He's asking $13,500.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 02:54:50 PM
I'm test driving a '97 Cobra tonight. It's got a p'n'p intake maniffold, X-pipe, flowmaster catback, long tube headers, and chip. It's red and has brand new Nitto 555s. He's asking $13,500.
hells yeah! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 02:54:50 PM
I'm test driving a '97 Cobra tonight. It's got a p'n'p intake maniffold, X-pipe, flowmaster catback, long tube headers, and chip. It's red and has brand new Nitto 555s. He's asking $13,500.
Awesome.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 02:54:50 PM
I'm test driving a '97 Cobra tonight. It's got a p'n'p intake maniffold, X-pipe, flowmaster catback, long tube headers, and chip. It's red and has brand new Nitto 555s. He's asking $13,500.
That's not a lot of money?
The driver's seat is shot, the mufflers are shot, and the front bumper needs paint.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 09, 2007, 08:58:21 AM
The driver's seat is shot, the mufflers are shot, and the front bumper needs paint.
For $13,500? No. $8000 or no deal.
Quote from: NACar on November 09, 2007, 09:12:36 AM
For $13,500? No. $8000 or no deal.
$600 for the bumper
$500 for the exhaust
$2000 for the seats because I would need to replace both because the leather has aged. If I replace one seat it will look different from the other seat.
So I was thinking $10K. He wouldn't go for it.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 08, 2007, 02:54:50 PM
I'm test driving a '97 Cobra tonight. It's got a p'n'p intake maniffold, X-pipe, flowmaster catback, long tube headers, and chip. It's red and has brand new Nitto 555s. He's asking $13,500.
Doesn't sound like it'll get 25mpg...
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 09, 2007, 09:22:24 AM
$600 for the bumper
$500 for the exhaust
$2000 for the seats because I would need to replace both because the leather has aged. If I replace one seat it will look different from the other seat.
So I was thinking $10K. He wouldn't go for it.
I'd rather go with a newer GT for the same money, especially for a daily driver.
That's what I keep telling him. Hemi, if you were willing to spend $13,000 on a 97 Cobra with some simple mods, I've got no idea why you wouldn't be willing to spend similar coin on a 99+ GT with fewer kms. There were a ton of them in the $11-13,000 range when we were looking online the other day.
It's hard to explain. There's something really special about a Cobra. Those DOHC engines respond to mods way better then the 2V GTs, and the '97 Cobra looks much cooler then the 99+ GTs. The '97 Cobra has 305 hp and a 99+ GT has 260 hp. The Cobra I looked at last night is good for about 350 hp with those mods. With the issues I listed in a previous post and with the mileage on this car, I'm not interested in paying $13,000 for the car.
Besides, I can't find many in that price range.
You need to shop here in the states. I was laughing tonight at the fact that I found a late-model GT for $7k in an Auto Mart mag. That'd be pretty cheap all things considered.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 11, 2007, 12:02:44 AM
You need to shop here in the states. I was laughing tonight at the fact that I found a late-model GT for $7k in an Auto Mart mag. That'd be pretty cheap all things considered.
I've looked all through Washington State and I have found nothing on Autotrader.com.
I just want to show you this for comparison's sake.
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/468961888.html
You're above Washington? That shouldn't be hard to find anything decent over there at all.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/474978930.html
Looks kinda like a Bullitt, too.
The 97 you showed us wasn't that great a deal, but that 2002 definitely is if it's in great condition.
I'd stay away from pre-99 GTs unless you're planning on putting several grand into the engine. You'll get tired of being beaten by every 17 year old in a V6 Altima.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 11, 2007, 12:51:02 AM
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/474978930.html
Looks kinda like a Bullitt, too.
That's a great deal. Springs and exhaust to get things started and down the road some cams, intake, shifter, and clutch.
Quote from: FordSVT on November 11, 2007, 10:37:03 AM
The 97 you showed us wasn't that great a deal, but that 2002 definitely is if it's in great condition.
Actually the '97 was priced about perfectly. I have found that the '94 to '98 Mustang GT's have gone up in value in the last year or two. When I sold my '96 two and a half years ago, most '96 GT's were selling for $6000 - $9,000. Now they are selling in the $8000 - $12,000 range. That 2002 is a killer deal and I only wish I was actually able to buy it right now. I still won't be in the market for another couple of months at least.
QuoteI'd stay away from pre-99 GTs unless you're planning on putting several grand into the engine. You'll get tired of being beaten by every 17 year old in a V6 Altima.
Do you forget my last GT was a '96? They may not have been real fast, but with a PI head and intake swap they have more power then the '99+ GT's. However, after doing the PI swap I will have spent as much or more then I would have on a lower mileage 2002 GT like the one in the ad. Especially when you take the exchange rate into account...$9450 CDN. :rockon:
Wait, so what are you driving now, HEMI?
If I were HEMI666, I'd wonder on down to Spokane, and bargain myself into an $18 - $20k used '05 GT, and be done. The extra dough now gets a car that will last longer, and be much, much better.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
My Ram.
How do you get the fambone into that thing? A stepladder?
Quote from: GoCougs on November 11, 2007, 11:13:05 AM
If I were HEMI666, I'd wonder on down to Spokane, and bargain myself into an $18 - $20k used '05 GT, and be done. The extra dough now gets a car that will last longer, and be much, much better.
Show me where they are because the cheapest 2005 GT I can find within 100 miles of Spokane is $23,999 on Autotrader.com.
There is one 2005 Mustang GT (http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/448380071.html) on Craigslist for Spokane and it's been in an accident.
Quote from: GoCougs on November 11, 2007, 11:13:05 AM
If I were HEMI666, I'd wonder on down to Spokane, and bargain myself into an $18 - $20k used '05 GT, and be done. The extra dough now gets a car that will last longer, and be much, much better.
Or even the V6 'Stang. Think of it not so much as a Mustang, but as an affordable RWD midsized coupe that's still plenty fast. There's really nothing else like it.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
My Ram.
Ohh. So you didn't sell it when you got the Shitfire?
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 11, 2007, 11:27:30 AM
Ohh. So you didn't sell it when you got the Shitfire?
It's still on lease, which is almost up.
Quote from: SaltyDog on November 11, 2007, 11:29:23 AM
It's still on lease, which is almost up.
Oh. In any case, I would go the method that Cougs stated.
Here's a 2002 Mustang GT (http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/car/474784132.html) in Seattle. Looks good, but I'm concerned that it already has a rebuilt engine in it.
http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/460738401.html
???
This one actually looks pretty good. 2002 Mustang GT (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/474624256.html)
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:36:52 AM
This one actually looks pretty good. 2002 Mustang GT (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/474624256.html)
42k miles is nothing. Go for it.
Have you actually raised your price though?
Quote from: the Teuton on November 11, 2007, 11:35:42 AM
http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/460738401.html
???
Very cool. i wonder why it's so cheap. It doesn't say how many miles are on it.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:37:54 AM
Very cool. i wonder why it's so cheap. It doesn't say how many miles are on it.
87k miles
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 11:37:46 AM
42k miles is nothing. Go for it.
Have you actually raised your price though?
I have, but I haven't told my wife. I can't seem to find much under $10K that I don't see giving me problems in the near future. I already had that problem with the Shitfire and I don't want to go through that again.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:37:54 AM
Very cool. i wonder why it's so cheap. It doesn't say how many miles are on it.
87k. It's a lot of miles, but not really excessive.
That Focus doesn't look like it's anything special.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/475078401.html
$8.5k, 80k miles.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:39:18 AM
I have, but I haven't told my wife. I can't seem to find much under $10K that I don't see giving me problems in the near future. I already had that problem with the Shitfire and I don't want to go through that again.
Well, seeing how you've had 2 engine failures, hopefully your wife will understand you wanting to spend more money for a more reliable car. :huh:
BTW, Teuton, 87k miles is nothing.
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 11:38:43 AM
87k miles
Oh fuck, how did I miss that? That's quite a bit for a 2002. I want to keep the mileage at 100,000 kms or lower, which is 62,000 miles.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:42:03 AM
Oh fuck, how did I miss that? That's quite a bit for a 2002. I want to keep the mileage at 100,000 kms or lower, which is 62,000 miles.
I think those cars are pretty reliable though, and those are all probably highway miles, so it isn't bad. :huh:
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 11:39:52 AM
That Focus doesn't look like it's anything special.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/475078401.html
$8.5k, 80k miles.
I'm not going to California to get a car.
here's a really nice Focus:
Only $10k, too bad it's so far away from you.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/475065179.html
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 11:40:33 AM
Well, seeing how you've had 2 engine failures, hopefully your wife will understand you wanting to spend more money for a more reliable car. :huh:
BTW, Teuton, 87k miles is nothing.
I know, but it is a lot for a 2002 car. My car has 161k on the odometer and about 114k on the engine. Believe me, I know.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:43:03 AM
I'm not going to California to get a car.
I know, it was just an example. ;)
This one looks really nice. 2003 Mustang GT (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/472990956.html)
Pretty expensive though.
I'd get a higher mileage Cobra for that price.
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
Pretty expensive though.
I'd get a higher mileage Cobra for that price.
It's only got 32,000 miles.
Here's a 2001 Cobra Vert (http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/472064162.html). I would actually consider a Vert in this case, and you know how much I don't like Verts.
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 11:43:47 AM
here's a really nice Focus:
Only $10k, too bad it's so far away from you.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/475065179.html
That is nice. I'd prefer black, but that's pretty nice.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:55:37 AM
It's only got 32,000 miles.
Here's a 2001 Cobra Vert (http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/472064162.html). I would actually consider a Vert in this case, and you know how much I don't like Verts.
Mustang convertibles do seem to give up a lot along the lines of stiffness though (just like how I wouldn't want an older Saab convertible). However, I do like the Cobra convertibles with a roll bar installed.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 11:21:50 AM
Show me where they are because the cheapest 2005 GT I can find within 100 miles of Spokane is $23,999 on Autotrader.com.
Dude - never take the asking price for a car sitting down, especially at a dealer, and especially used. I think that one should be able to bargain it down to $20k.
Further, there are many other outlets for advertising than Autotrader. Between Spokane, Post Falls, and CdA, there are many Ford dealerships, let alone new car dealerships in general.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=11859.msg638478#msg638478 date=1194807570
That is nice. I'd prefer black, but that's pretty nice.
That blue is beautiful. After owning a black truck I don't want to own another black vehicle...although if I find a Mustang I like in black, I'll still buy it.
That car is very low mileage. I might have to think about going to California for a holiday and driving one back.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 12:07:20 PM
That blue is beautiful. After owning a black truck I don't want to own another black vehicle...although if I find a Mustang I like in black, I'll still buy it.
That car is very low mileage. I might have to think about going to California for a holiday and driving one back.
No rust either. :praise: :lol:
Are you seriously considering coming down to California though? Sounds like it's worth it though if you find a car you really must have.
I'm willing to bet Hemi doesn't buy a car until June.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 10:50:02 AM
Actually the '97 was priced about perfectly.
I didn't say it was too expensive, just that it wasn't a great deal. It's average.
But if you've got the extra money it's worth going newer. That car's more than 10 years old now, hard as it is to believe.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 11, 2007, 12:43:01 PM
I'm willing to bet Hemi doesn't buy a car until June.
Since that means I would be without a car for a couple of months I'll take you up on that bet.
Quote from: Raghavan on November 11, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
Are you seriously considering coming down to California though? Sounds like it's worth it though if you find a car you really must have.
Well I was thinking about it while I was out running erands and if the car is in California then rust won't be an issue and deals are probably better down there because of how many cars are in California that are for sale. There's more competition. I would consider it if the right car was available.
I found it. A 2001 Bullitt (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/474031395.html). I'm a little leary of the price though.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 07:29:46 PM
I found it. A 2001 Bullitt (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/474031395.html). I'm a little leary of the price though.
GO FOR IT
If it's legit move fast.
hey, it's half an hour up the freeway from where I live
I'll drive it up for ya ;)
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 07:29:46 PM
I found it. A 2001 Bullitt (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/474031395.html). I'm a little leary of the price though.
Certified smog! There's nothing worse than unconfirmed smog.
Quote from: omicron on November 11, 2007, 07:52:25 PM
Certified smog! There's nothing worse than unconfirmed smog.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 07:29:46 PM
I found it. A 2001 Bullitt (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/474031395.html). I'm a little leary of the price though.
I would be all over that if it was closer to me. As such, you need to buy it so I can live vicariously through you. :tounge:
What's up with the brake pedal on the Bullit? It looks like half of it is missing.
Quote from: JYODER240 on November 11, 2007, 09:26:37 PM
What's up with the brake pedal on the Bullit? It looks like half of it is missing.
I didn't notice that. The pedal cover is missing. Also the "BULLITT" on the back is missing, although you can see where it was at one time. Maybe the price is that low because there's more missing.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 11, 2007, 10:08:42 PM
I didn't notice that. The pedal cover is missing. Also the "BULLITT" on the back is missing, although you can see where it was at one time. Maybe the price is that low because there's more missing.
If the emblem is missing that kinda makes me think it was wrecked and the body shop never put an emblem back on.
Quote from: JYODER240 on November 11, 2007, 10:09:48 PM
If the emblem is missing that kinda makes me think it was wrecked and the body shop never put an emblem back on.
My thoughts exactly. I've already been burned by a deal that was too good to be true, and I won't have that happen again.
This 2001 Cobra (http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/car/453177863.html) looks really good. I'm beginning to think I will be buying my next car in the US and by the looks of it...California.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 12, 2007, 08:25:32 AM
This 2001 Cobra (http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/car/453177863.html) looks really good. I'm beginning to think I will be buying my next car in the US and by the looks of it...California.
Are you going to go for that particular one?
It's a bit over your mileage limit though, isn't it?
Quote from: Raghavan on November 12, 2007, 09:57:37 AM
Are you going to go for that particular one?
It's a bit over your mileage limit though, isn't it?
I won't be going for that particular one. I have to wait until at least after the new year so that all the financing is in place for my house before I go and add more debt. I also want to have a few cars lined up to look at before I go down too because i don't want it to be a wasted trip. There's a beautiful Bullitt Mustang in San Jose that I would die to have as well. But I wouldn't doubt it if I do make the trip to California in the new year to pick up a car. I would prefer it that the cars are in San Francisco since I've always wanted to visit there and I can still drive the car back in one day from there.
:ohyeah:
Now this 2005 Mustang GT (http://houston.craigslist.org/car/476519833.html) is hot. Under $20K with 30K miles and it has the red leather package I so desperately NEED. I still want to keep the car under $15K because there is no way I will convince my wife to let me spend $20K. :(
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 12, 2007, 11:21:25 PM
Now this 2005 Mustang GT (http://houston.craigslist.org/car/476519833.html) is hot. Under $20K with 30K miles and it has the red leather package I so desperately NEED. I still want to keep the car under $15K because there is no way I will convince my wife to let me spend $20K. :(
Just finance for 120-months. :lol:
Remember that cheap BMW M3 I posted a few pages back taht we figured out must be a scam? I got an email response from the guy:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting me about my car .The price as you saw on AutoTrader is $7,800.
About the car: it is in immaculate condition and has no scratch on and hasn't been involved in any accident. The
motor runs very well. The car was always garaged and rarely used. The car is in showroom condition. The title is
clear, it is not a salvage one. I have legal document by which I can transfer the title to your name. The car is
still US registered so you will not have to pay any customs.
The car is located in Melbourne,Australia and I will ship it from here. I will support all the shipping fees.
The delivery will take within 5 to 7 working days (with insurance and 30 days return policy). The service has
frequent shared container services. It will be insured at the delivery service. If something happens on the road,
you will receive the insurance from the delivery service.
As soon as the car arrives, you will test and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it
in max. 30 days since the arrival date. In this case I will pay the return shipping and insurance fees.
ALSO ABOUT PAYMENT AND SHIPPING I WILL USE ONLY EBAY PURCHASE PROTECTION SO WE CAN BOTH BE PROTECTED!
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO E-MAIL ME YOUR COMPLETE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR SHIPPING AND AFTER THAT EBAY WILL CONTACT YOU
WITH MORE INFO REGARDING SHIPPING AND PAYMENT!
eBay Purchase Protection require the payment to be done through Bank wire transfer.
If you agree with my above terms, I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon as possible. I have reserved the car
for you until I will have your final answer.
Regards,
Charles Robinson
Ebay only works in auctions. In every other case, it's Paypal, and I wouldn't trust my life with Paypal unless it was well under $100 worth of stuff.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 13, 2007, 09:16:07 AM
Remember that cheap BMW M3 I posted a few pages back taht we figured out must be a scam? I got an email response from the guy:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting me about my car .The price as you saw on AutoTrader is $7,800.
About the car: it is in immaculate condition and has no scratch on and hasn't been involved in any accident. The
motor runs very well. The car was always garaged and rarely used. The car is in showroom condition. The title is
clear, it is not a salvage one. I have legal document by which I can transfer the title to your name. The car is
still US registered so you will not have to pay any customs.
The car is located in Melbourne,Australia and I will ship it from here. I will support all the shipping fees.
The delivery will take within 5 to 7 working days (with insurance and 30 days return policy). The service has
frequent shared container services. It will be insured at the delivery service. If something happens on the road,
you will receive the insurance from the delivery service.
As soon as the car arrives, you will test and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it
in max. 30 days since the arrival date. In this case I will pay the return shipping and insurance fees.
ALSO ABOUT PAYMENT AND SHIPPING I WILL USE ONLY EBAY PURCHASE PROTECTION SO WE CAN BOTH BE PROTECTED!
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO E-MAIL ME YOUR COMPLETE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR SHIPPING AND AFTER THAT EBAY WILL CONTACT YOU
WITH MORE INFO REGARDING SHIPPING AND PAYMENT!
eBay Purchase Protection require the payment to be done through Bank wire transfer.
If you agree with my above terms, I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon as possible. I have reserved the car
for you until I will have your final answer.
Regards,
Charles Robinson
Free shipping, too? Sounds like a great deal! :lol:
Still sounds fishy to me. $7800 and he's willing to pay the shipping fee to the US? It's probably frigging stolen or something. 1+1 does not equal 2 here.
Quote from: FordSVT on November 13, 2007, 09:41:26 AM
Still sounds fishy to me. $7800 and he's willing to pay the shipping fee to the US? It's probably frigging stolen or something. 1+1 does not equal 2 here.
No kidding. This email he sent me is proof it's a scam.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 13, 2007, 10:19:25 AM
No kidding. This email he sent me is proof it's a scam.
Are you selling the Crapfire yet?
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 13, 2007, 01:14:17 PM
Are you selling the Crapfire yet?
Trying to. I just hope someone steals it. :lol:
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 13, 2007, 01:19:51 PM
Trying to. I just hope someone steals it. :lol:
I hope someone steals or runs into the Trep. :huh:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 13, 2007, 01:22:52 PM
I hope someone steals or runs into the Trep. :huh:
Why? Give it to me if you want to be rid of it.
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on November 13, 2007, 01:25:26 PM
Why? Give it to me if you want to be rid of it.
Would you like a steem? $100.
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on November 13, 2007, 01:25:26 PM
Why? Give it to me if you want to be rid of it.
Insurance money, my friend. I crave a 4Motion Passat Wagon
Quote from: NACar on November 13, 2007, 01:26:17 PM
Would you like a steem? $100.
Erm...no, thanks. At minimum, I like cars that run when I purchase them. Also, it's a bit of a drive to you.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 13, 2007, 01:26:24 PM
Insurance money, my friend. I crave a 4Motion Passat Wagon
I see. Have you heard of this substance called gasoline? Perhaps that could aid in claiming insurance money.
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on November 13, 2007, 01:30:30 PM
I see. Have you heard of this substance called gasoline? Perhaps that could aid in claiming insurance money.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I'll let you drive the new car if you steal and torch the Trep for me. Just save the iPod in the centre console. I would die if I lost that thing. :devil:
Quote from: 3.0L V6 on November 13, 2007, 01:30:30 PM
Erm...no, thanks. At minimum, I like cars that run when I purchase them. Also, it's a bit of a drive to you.
:cry:
I don't even care about getting money for it anymore. I just don't like seeing any car end up in the junkyard.
Go to a Suzuki dealer and sell it to them.
So where is the Misfire right now?
Quote from: NACar on November 13, 2007, 01:32:03 PM
:cry:
I don't even care about getting money for it anymore. I just don't like seeing any car end up in the junkyard.
I think I could deal with seeing the Shitfire in the junkyard.
Quote from: HEMI666 on November 13, 2007, 01:43:57 PM
I think I could deal with seeing the Shitfire in the junkyard.
Don't be such a meanie! :lol:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 13, 2007, 01:22:52 PM
I hope someone steals or runs into the Trep. :huh:
WTF? What happened to your "sentimental attachment?" :rolleyes:
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 13, 2007, 01:46:11 PM
WTF? What happened to your "sentimental attachment?" :rolleyes:
Oh I definitely have one, but it's decreased. :lol:
Now it's just that dad won't let me sell it.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 13, 2007, 01:47:48 PM
Oh I definitely have one, but it's decreased. :lol:
Now it's just that dad won't let me sell it.
You just need a fun car. Want an Impreza?
Just kidding. I like my little POS too much.
Fishy.
Quote from: omicron on November 14, 2007, 07:11:19 AM
I had sushi with whiting today! Quite nice.
I had eel sushi for the first time yesterday. I really enjoyed it.
As for the cars, I'm a compact car kinda guy so a Focus SVT would be my cup of tea, but I can see a Mustang being a decent alternative...if shopped for in the US.