Here are the first leaked shots of the forthcoming preproduction/concept Aveo RS. I like the proportions. Not too sure about the face. I like how they took the motorcycle-inspired gauges but logically flipped the tach and speedo. Now you have an analog tachometer and a digital speedo.
Looks to be copied out of a book or magazine, so thus the perspective seems a bit warped.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/01-aveo-rs-leak.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/02-aveo-rs-leak.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/03-aveo-rs-leak.jpg)
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/07/2010-chevrolet-aveo-rs-leaks-out/
Looks to be a serious competitor to the Fiesta and Fit.
It also looks like complete ass.
That negative front camber looks promising.
It would appear, as much fun as we make of his silly Avivas, 2o6 was onto something with one-box cars with slanted c-pillars.
Next you're going to tell me something ridiculous like we're going to have a black president...
Quote from: Submariner on January 07, 2010, 06:14:03 PM
It also looks like complete ass.
Please, enlighten us. What should a small car look like? One that has to maximize it's is space in such a small space constraint?
Quote from: the Teuton on January 07, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
It would appear, as much fun as we make of his silly Avivas, 2o6 was onto something with one-box cars with slanted c-pillars.
Next you're going to tell me something ridiculous like we're going to have a black president...
The D-piller on this car is slanted, but space is still retained due to the rear window.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 07, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
The D-piller on this car is slanted, but space is still retained due to the rear window.
What next? A wise Latina as a supreme court justice, too?
Quote from: NACar on January 07, 2010, 06:16:02 PM
That negative front camber looks promising.
And it's only on one side! The passenger side has positive! It must have amazing handling abilities!
Quote from: hotrodalex on January 07, 2010, 06:59:09 PM
And it's only on one side! The passenger side has positive! It must have amazing handling abilities!
(http://wx-man.com/images/nascar-logo.gif)
I like it. The headlights, for example, are way better than the 2 foot long peepers on the competition. Some interesting angles on the back end too.
Fiesta please.
Just to keep track, in the next year or so we'll have:
Chevy Aveo
Ford Fiesta
Mazda 2
Fiat 500
Suzuki Swift
Honda Fit
VW ?
Am I missing any other micros coming?
Quote from: Payman on January 07, 2010, 08:30:44 PM
Just to keep track, in the next year or so we'll have:
Chevy Aveo
Ford Fiesta
Mazda 2
Fiat 500
Suzuki Swift
Honda Fit
VW ?
Am I missing any other micros coming?
Yeah, that market will be ridiculously oversaturated and then used to say that Americans don't like small cars when all or most of them sell poorly on their own.
Quote from: Payman on January 07, 2010, 08:30:44 PM
Just to keep track, in the next year or so we'll have:
Chevy Aveo
Ford Fiesta
Mazda 2
Fiat 500
Suzuki Swift
Honda Fit
VW ?
Am I missing any other micros coming?
Mitsu Colt.
Quote from: ifcar on January 07, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Yeah, that market will be ridiculously oversaturated and then used to say that Americans don't like small cars when all or most of them sell poorly on their own.
:whatshesaid:
Looks handsome.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av001.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av002.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av012.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av013.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av010.jpg)
WOW, look at that interior! Amazing, who knows if it'll sell, but it looks damn good.
Leather dash?
Get rid of the bow ties, and I'll think about it.
Quote from: ifcar on January 07, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Yeah, that market will be ridiculously oversaturated and then used to say that Americans don't like small cars when all or most of them sell poorly on their own.
The auto manufacturers are going to have to hit those tough cafe standards somehow. The fleet average may be high, but the average purchased is likely to remain low(er). Just goes to show how the environmental regulations are screwy. The Europeans drive low emissions, small cars for one reason: gas is very expensive. We won't follow suit until we too have very expensive gas.
In all honesty, if this was a Buick, I would buy one over a Cinquecento.
That car actually looks really good in those pictures. It looked like shit in the scanned photos. I still prefer the Fiesta, but that does look good.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on January 08, 2010, 11:44:27 AM
The auto manufacturers are going to have to hit those tough cafe standards somehow. The fleet average may be high, but the average purchased is likely to remain low(er). Just goes to show how the environmental regulations are screwy. The Europeans drive low emissions, small cars for one reason: gas is very expensive. We won't follow suit until we too have very expensive gas.
Also, small cars are no longer small. They often best midsize and compacts of not too long ago.
I think the incoming A-segment cars will have a tough time selling.
Whats up with the Audi-esque front? Either way, I think it looks awesome and just a little mean. Since "RS" is plastered on the back I'm crossing my fingers for 150/160 hp. That would make this thing a hoot I bet.
138hp apparently. Same as the Cruze.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/01/next-chevrolet-aveo-will-be-bigger-and-made-in-michigan/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/01/next-chevrolet-aveo-will-be-bigger-and-made-in-michigan/1)
" The Aveo RS show car is powered by the same 138-horsepower, four-cylinder Ecotec turbocharged engine that will be available in the upcoming Chevrolet Cruze. This one has a six-speed manual transmission. "
This car should be able to move pretty quick.
Quote from: Northlands on January 08, 2010, 04:14:20 PM
138hp apparently. Same as the Cruze.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/01/next-chevrolet-aveo-will-be-bigger-and-made-in-michigan/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/01/next-chevrolet-aveo-will-be-bigger-and-made-in-michigan/1)
" The Aveo RS show car is powered by the same 138-horsepower, four-cylinder Ecotec turbocharged engine that will be available in the upcoming Chevrolet Cruze. This one has a six-speed manual transmission. "
This car should be able to move pretty quick.
Yeah, if the production car gets that engine, which remains an unknown.
Trust me, there will be no mistaking this for anything as remotely exciting as a motorcycle, no matter what gauges they stick in there. Not a bad looking car though. Hopefully it's built more nicely than the current Aveo/G3.
If it gets that engine it sounds promising.
(http://static.blogo.it/eurocarblog/render-opel-allegra-02/Opel_Allegra_01.jpg)
Now that's a good looking small car.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20968.msg1239128#msg1239128 date=1263005345
(http://static.blogo.it/eurocarblog/render-opel-allegra-02/Opel_Allegra_01.jpg)
Now that's a good looking small car.
That isn't real.
Quote from: ifcar on January 07, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Yeah, that market will be ridiculously oversaturated and then used to say that Americans don't like small cars when all or most of them sell poorly on their own.
Hey now. A car like the Honda Fit is perfect for a young urbanite couple in a major city. These cars won't do CamCord numbers but I think they will sell.
I do think a few will not sell well (Mitsu Colt, Fiat 500... weak dealership networks). But a few of these (Fit, Swift, Mazda2) have the promise of providing fun + practicality on the cheap, without the worries or expenses of a nicer similarly priced used car.
This Aveo should be damn quick with that motor though. And it's turbocharged. It will definitely be a hit among the tuners. I just hope it is cheaper + has better gas mileage than a Cruze/Cobalt.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 08, 2010, 11:38:53 AM
Looks handsome.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av001.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av002.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av012.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av013.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av010.jpg)
WOW!!! Massive improvement over the current Aveo!
Cheers,
Madman of the People
It has a better interior than a C6.
Not bad looking! I hope the rest of the car is upgraded to match the fresh cosmetics.
Quote from: sportyaccordy on January 09, 2010, 08:08:30 AM
Hey now. A car like the Honda Fit is perfect for a young urbanite couple in a major city. These cars won't do CamCord numbers but I think they will sell.
My grandpops bought a Fit.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 08, 2010, 08:26:02 PM
That isn't real.
Not yet.
Though this Aveo isn't awful.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20968.msg1239828#msg1239828 date=1263077239
Not yet.
Those this Aveo isn't awful.
That's a rendering that likely will not come true.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 09, 2010, 04:59:28 PM
That's a rendering that likely will not come true.
Man, I must have been drunk when I wrote that.
I like it!
Though I like the Polo a lot more...
Quote from: Raza on January 08, 2010, 07:49:05 PM
(http://static.blogo.it/eurocarblog/render-opel-allegra-02/Opel_Allegra_01.jpg)
Now that's a good looking small car.
Looks like a rendering that used the Mazda 2 as a template...lol
The New Corsa will probably look like that, since the Astra copied off the Mazda 3
Quote from: 2o6 on January 08, 2010, 11:38:53 AM
Looks handsome.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av001.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av002.jpg)
I say; I've been over that bridge before. I don't recall a snarly Aveo nearby, mind.
It would look better with smaller wheels and if they toned down the size of the headlamps and grille.
Actually, the more I see this, the more I like it. It makes those giant headlamp subcompacts look a little silly.
I'm starting to like this more every time I open the thread.
More pics from NAIAS:
(http://www.speedsportlife.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-naias-photo-gallery-chevy-aveo-rs-concept/IMG_12271.jpg)
(http://www.speedsportlife.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-naias-photo-gallery-chevy-aveo-rs-concept/IMG_08762.jpg)
(http://www.speedsportlife.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-naias-photo-gallery-chevy-aveo-rs-concept/IMG_07551.jpg)
I'm actually starting to really like it. Still not as much as the Fiesta though.
Yup, I'm sold on it.
[boast]
First the GTO, then the G8, Camaro, Caprice, and now Aveo RS. Why hasn't Melbourne water been shipped to Detroit?
[/boast]
Quote from: Raza on January 15, 2010, 10:19:45 AM
Yup, I'm sold on it.
Me too. Good looks, great interior, decent power... I'll check this out when it's available.
God, that front end is stupid.
The interior looks good, though, and like Nick said, power is not bad, either.
Quote from: Submariner on January 16, 2010, 08:10:32 PM
God, that front end is stupid.
The interior looks good, though, and like Nick said, power is not bad, either.
The grille is a little offputting, but it's certainly a way better front end than this:
(http://go2chevy.net/Chevrolet-Spark-2011-Image-001-800.jpg)
Quote from: Payman on January 16, 2010, 10:22:19 PM
The grille is a little offputting, but it's certainly a way better front end than this:
(http://go2chevy.net/Chevrolet-Spark-2011-Image-001-800.jpg)
It looks like a torsion rod that's being torqued.
Quote from: ChrisV on January 15, 2010, 09:34:09 AM
More pics from NAIAS:
(http://www.speedsportlife.com/wp-content/gallery/2010-naias-photo-gallery-chevy-aveo-rs-concept/IMG_12271.jpg)
When is it in showrooms?
Quote from: Jon? on February 08, 2010, 08:15:26 AM
When is it in showrooms?
It's still only a concept...probably late next year as a 2012 model.
Ah. That's too bad. The current model is not compelling. Other makers have much nicer offerings.
I'm really interested in taking it and a Fiesta out in back to back test drives.
I probably won't buy one (by the time I'm ready for a new daily, I'll be on to bigger and better things), but I really hope it succeeds. It looks a lot better than a lot of superminis that have headlights stretching across the car to meet the taillights.
I agree Raza. I hope it and the Fiesta really succeed though I won't be buying either of them. My next car is something with a V8.
I'm pretty sure I could be happy with a Fiesta hatchback...if they make an AWD RS version of it.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 08, 2010, 10:59:04 AM
I'm pretty sure I could be happy with a Fiesta hatchback...if they make an AWD RS version of it.
:facepalm:
Quote from: Raza on February 08, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
:facepalm:
I could easily settle with getting 44 mpg (as recorded by Motor Trend) for a daily driver, but have you seen the weather here lately? If I'm going to be living up north for a while, I'm going to want to have my AWD back pretty soon.
Saw a Fiesta for the first time today.
(good story, right guys? ...guys?)
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 08, 2010, 01:18:11 PM
Saw a Fiesta for the first time today.
(good story, right guys? ...guys?)
ZOMG! Please tell it again! You also live in Michigan, so the pre-pro models are probably oot and aboot over there.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 08, 2010, 01:24:55 PM
ZOMG! Please tell it again! You also live in Michigan, so the pre-pro models are probably oot and aboot over there.
It hasn't been released yet? O. Heh. I was behind it in traffic on my bike earlier. I thought "oh look! One of those new Fiestas!" That was about as exciting as it got to see a Fiesta.
(good story, right?!??!)
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 08, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
It hasn't been released yet? O. Heh. I was behind it in traffic on my bike earlier. I thought "oh look! One of those new Fiestas!" That was about as exciting as it got to see a Fiesta.
(good story, right?!??!)
As of last Friday, I had not seen one on a Ford dealer's lot. It doesn't go on sale officially until Summer. It might be a Fiesta Movement 2.0 car.
Interesting. I wish I had been more interested in it since it apparently doesn't really exist on the market yet.
But, I guess that's what they get for making a pretty unexciting car. :huh: (to be expected, as a compact little cute thing or whatever it's supposed to be)
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 08, 2010, 01:36:59 PM
Interesting. I wish I had been more interested in it since it apparently doesn't really exist on the market yet.
But, I guess that's what they get for making a pretty unexciting car. :huh: (to be expected, as a compact little cute thing or whatever it's supposed to be)
I was stoked when I got to drive the EDM version of it. I wish our car still got the push button starter.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 08, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
I could easily settle with getting 44 mpg (as recorded by Motor Trend) for a daily driver, but have you seen the weather here lately? If I'm going to be living up north for a while, I'm going to want to have my AWD back pretty soon.
:facepalm:
Quote from: the Teuton on February 08, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
I could easily settle with getting 44 mpg (as recorded by Motor Trend) for a daily driver, but have you seen the weather here lately? If I'm going to be living up north for a while, I'm going to want to have my AWD back pretty soon.
'Cause "up north" it snows 20+ inches every night, right?!?! And, like, they don't have snow plows that actually can accommodate snow, and stuff...like they're supposed to. ;)
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 08, 2010, 01:44:40 PM
'Cause "up north" it snows 20+ inches every night, right?!?! And, like, they don't have snow plows that actually can accommodate snow, and stuff...like they're supposed to. ;)
Pittsburgh's infrastructure is a whore. But it's not like I'm complaining too much about having no classes today.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 08, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
I could easily settle with getting 44 mpg (as recorded by Motor Trend) for a daily driver, but have you seen the weather here lately? If I'm going to be living up north for a while, I'm going to want to have my AWD back pretty soon.
You're stupid.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 08, 2010, 01:51:23 PM
You're stupid.
I don't know how to respond to your claim. I demand proof!
Quote from: the Teuton on February 08, 2010, 01:50:51 PM
Pittsburgh's infrastructure is a whore. But it's not like I'm complaining too much about having no classes today.
Pittsburgh sucks. AWD won't fix that shithole.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20968.msg1263989#msg1263989 date=1265663205
Pittsburgh sucks. AWD won't fix that shithole.
More Grey Poupon, sir?
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/9220616+w750/112_news080214_01z+2009_ford_fiesta+front_three_quarter_view.jpg)
(http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2011-holden-barina-chevrolet-aveo-rs-13.jpg)
I'd be torn. I'd have to drive and price them carefully. This bolds well for both Ford and GM.
I'd have the Ford.
A bit of context to the thread, if you please. The Fiesta is pretty good for what it is, although it's by no means segment-breaking when judged in the context of its environment - as in, I haven't travelled a car-free, windy road for a good few months, which negates much of the Fiesta's advantages over the Mazda2 or (dare I say it, Yaris). As always, I am drawn towards cars with more usable width, more conventional styling, less trendy interiors and more lazily torquey engines.
Quote from: omicron on February 09, 2010, 07:33:59 AM
A bit of context to the thread, if you please. The Fiesta is pretty good for what it is, although it's by no means segment-breaking when judged in the context of its environment - as in, I haven't travelled a car-free, windy road for a good few months, which negates much of the Fiesta's advantages over the Mazda2 or (dare I say it, Yaris). As always, I am drawn towards cars with more usable width, more conventional styling, less trendy interiors and more lazily torquey engines.
windy roads?
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 08, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
It hasn't been released yet? O. Heh. I was behind it in traffic on my bike earlier. I thought "oh look! One of those new Fiestas!" That was about as exciting as it got to see a Fiesta.
(good story, right?!??!)
I didn't think you rode your bike in traffic because it was dangerous and you might die and everything?
Quote from: Jon? on February 08, 2010, 03:48:14 PM
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/9220616+w750/112_news080214_01z+2009_ford_fiesta+front_three_quarter_view.jpg)
(http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2011-holden-barina-chevrolet-aveo-rs-13.jpg)
I'd be torn. I'd have to drive and price them carefully. This bolds well for both Ford and GM.
Dude, there is no comparison here.
Quote from: R-inge on February 09, 2010, 11:28:55 AM
Dude, there is no comparison here.
Right. Aveo all the way.
lol, that's not what I had in mind.
Quote from: R-inge on February 09, 2010, 11:28:55 AM
Dude, there is no comparison here.
The Fiesta is nice, but the Aveo looks to be a fine competitor.
Here's one thing I'd like to point out: Everyone and their mother who has driven a Fiesta has walked away impressed. I've driven one, and I was smitten. The shifter feels like it came straight out of a BMW. The car is frickin' fantastic -- no conditionals like "for a $15k car..." No, it's really a fantastic car.
No one has driven the Aveo yet, but based on the reports about the Cruze and my findings from the current gen Aveo, there's a chance it might not be that exciting.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 09, 2010, 01:39:01 PM
Here's one thing I'd like to point out: Everyone and their mother who has driven a Fiesta has walked away impressed. I've driven one, and I was smitten. The shifter feels like it came straight out of a BMW. The car is frickin' fantastic -- no conditionals like "for a $15k car..." No, it's really a fantastic car.
No one has driven the Aveo yet, but based on the reports about the Cruze and my findings from the current gen Aveo, there's a chance it might not be that exciting.
People forget that boring sells.
Reviews from Europe are praising the Cruze for being a smooth, roomy, well-built, soft compact.
I haven't seen these cars yet, but judging from the pics, to me the Aveo looks slightly better, and the interior looks wayyyy better than the Fiesta's. That being said, the Fiesta probably has a superior chassis and suspension. I'm looking forward to a comprehensive comparison of all the new micros sometime this year.
Quote from: Rockraven on February 09, 2010, 05:36:07 PM
I haven't seen these cars yet, but judging from the pics, to me the Aveo looks slightly better, and the interior looks wayyyy better than the Fiesta's. That being said, the Fiesta probably has a superior chassis and suspension. I'm looking forward to a comprehensive comparison of all the new micros sometime this year.
The Aveo won't be out this year unless GM moves astonishingly quickly. It's already February and they haven't shown a production car.
Quote from: ifcar on February 09, 2010, 06:01:35 PM
The Aveo won't be out this year unless GM moves astonishingly quickly. It's already February and they haven't shown a production car.
I have it on good authority that the Aveo is passed around like a pack of cheap baseball cards at HQ. I'm sure they could come up with something. :lol:
Quote from: Rockraven on February 09, 2010, 05:36:07 PM
I haven't seen these cars yet, but judging from the pics, to me the Aveo looks slightly better, and the interior looks wayyyy better than the Fiesta's. That being said, the Fiesta probably has a superior chassis and suspension. I'm looking forward to a comprehensive comparison of all the new micros sometime this year.
Different tastes I guess. I think the interior is way to busy and quite ugly. Looks like something out of a video game.
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/10872456+w750/112_0811_07z+2009_ford_fiesta+interior_pull_back.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av009.jpg)
I do like the Fiesta interior, but I really like the Aveo RS interior better.
Edge to Aveo on the interior. The front end looks better than the Fiesta's, but the rear of the Fiesta looks better.
I like the Fiesta's interior better. The Aveo's is just too black. If there is such a thing. :confused:
The US interior is a tad different.
(http://cache-foo-02.gawkerassets.com/gawker/assets/images/12/2009/11/500x_2011-ford-fiesta-41.jpg)
Hmm. Now I'm not sure. :cry:
Here's a better pic:
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/fiesta-120-008_opt.jpg)
It's cheaper, and it had to be revised for US crash regulations.
The US version looks better... I don't like silver painted plastic. I love the piano black treatment in the Aveo interior, I like the gauges in the Aveo better, and that blue stitching is really cool.
I think the Aveo interior would look great in the Corvette.
Quote from: Rockraven on February 09, 2010, 08:24:43 PM
The US version looks better... I don't like silver painted plastic. I love the piano black treatment in the Aveo interior, I like the gauges in the Aveo better, and that blue stitching is really cool.
Well, those are concept-y materials. I don't think they'll see production.
I hope so... we'll see.
Well, the Chevy Spark's interior generally looks good.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee19/whitejeep1989/Chevrolet-Spark2010interior1.jpg)
Although........these live photos make it look absurdly cheap. I hope the Fiesta won't be that way.
(http://2011chevroletspark.com/images/2011_chevrolet_spark4.jpg)
The Fiesta's interior will probably be cheapened a little, but it will largely remain the same as it has been since the car debuted in Europe. The Aveo will be ripped apart by accountants and execs who are looking to save five cents on a widget.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 09, 2010, 08:37:16 PM
The Fiesta's interior will probably be cheapened a little, but it will largely remain the same as it has been since the car debuted in Europe. The Aveo will be ripped apart by accountants and execs who are looking to save five cents on a widget.
Remember the Focus?
Quote from: 2o6 on February 09, 2010, 08:38:29 PM
Remember the Focus?
Was the interior cheapened that much? I thought it was just the engines.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 09, 2010, 08:43:18 PM
Was the interior cheapened that much? I thought it was just the engines.
The Plastics were totally different.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 09, 2010, 09:00:20 PM
The Plastics were totally different.
I didn't know this. Pictorial proof, please.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/01/x11ch_av009.jpg)
I'm not a fan of the digital speedo (Too 1980s) but the rest of it looks pretty good. This is obviously a top-spec version with leather and all the toys. It will be interesting to see if the poverty-spec versions can still pull off the quality look. But, hey, look on the bright side ...... ANYTHING is an improvement over the current Aveo!
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on February 09, 2010, 09:27:02 PM
I'm not a fan of the digital speedo (Too 1980s) but the rest of it looks pretty good. This is obviously a top-spec version with leather and all the toys. It will be interesting to see if the poverty-spec versions can still pull off the quality look. But, hey, look on the bright side ...... ANYTHING is an improvement over the current Aveo!
Madman of the People
You're acting as if it's the interior quality that's the current Aveo's problem.
(http://www.cardata.com/images/2008_new_cars/Chevrolet/Aveo_interior.jpg)
That's just not where its major problem lies.
Quote from: ifcar on February 09, 2010, 09:29:26 PM
You're acting as if it's the interior quality that's the current Aveo's problem.
(http://www.cardata.com/images/2008_new_cars/Chevrolet/Aveo_interior.jpg)
That's just not where its major problem lies.
I sat in an Aveo at an auto show a couple of months ago and it was all grey plastic. It certainly didn't look anything like that photo you posted. That one almost looks nice, apart from the garish plasti-wood. I'm sure this is also the top-spec version of the current car. I can assure you the boggo cabin doesn't look anywhere nearly as nice.
I never said the interior was the Aveo's only problem. It's just one of the many shortcomings which plague this car.
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on February 09, 2010, 09:37:26 PM
I sat in an Aveo at an auto show a couple of months ago and it was all grey plastic. It certainly didn't look anything like that photo you posted. That one almost looks nice, apart from the garish plasti-wood. I'm sure this is also the top-spec version of the current car. I can assure you the boggo cabin doesn't look anywhere nearly as nice.
I never said the interior was the Aveo's only problem. It's just one of the many shortcomings which plague this car.
Madman of the People
Don't forget what it's competing against. The Aveo's interior -- even in the cheapest possible model -- is nicer than, say, a Yaris's or Accent/Rio's. That's a very easy way it could be worse. It's just not that bad, and its biggest issue isn't style or materials but assembly.
Quote from: ifcar on February 09, 2010, 09:40:55 PM
Don't forget what it's competing against. The Aveo's interior -- even in the cheapest possible model -- is nicer than, say, a Yaris's or Accent/Rio's. That's a very easy way it could be worse. It's just not that bad, and its biggest issue isn't style or materials but assembly.
Why am I the only person who thinks the Accent is a much better car, in and out?
Quote from: ifcar on February 09, 2010, 09:40:55 PM
Don't forget what it's competing against. The Aveo's interior -- even in the cheapest possible model -- is nicer than, say, a Yaris's or Accent/Rio's. That's a very easy way it could be worse. It's just not that bad, and its biggest issue isn't style or materials but assembly.
I don't think there's any real issue with the Aveo's assembly. The ones I have seen looked to be screwed together well enough. It's the overall lack of refinement and the use of some rather low-grade materials that is the Aveo's Achilles' heel. Add to the mix a rough, noisy and unresponsive engine and some pretty lacklustre mileage figures for what is supposed to be an economy car. Also, bear in mind I'm talking about the hatch here. I believe the sedan has a different dash and interior? Maybe that's the photo you found?
At any rate, it's looks like Chevy is finally getting serious about making a world class B Segment car. And about damn time, too.
Madman of the People
Quote from: the Teuton on February 09, 2010, 09:47:14 PM
Why am I the only person who thinks the Accent is a much better car, in and out?
Because you're habitually wrong.
What are we talking about now?
Quote from: Raza on February 09, 2010, 09:58:49 PM
Because you're habitually wrong.
What are we talking about now?
Accent sedan versus Aveo sedan
Go fuck yourself.
Quote from: Madman on February 09, 2010, 09:55:53 PM
I don't think there's any real issue with the Aveo's assembly. The ones I have seen looked to be screwed together well enough. It's the overall lack of refinement and the use of some rather low-grade materials that is the Aveo's Achilles' heel. Add to the mix a rough, noisy and unresponsive engine and some pretty lacklustre mileage figures for what is supposed to be an economy car. Also, bear in mind I'm talking about the hatch here. I believe the sedan has a different dash and interior? Maybe that's the photo you found?
At any rate, it's looks like Chevy is finally getting serious about making a world class B Segment car. And about damn time, too.
Madman of the People
The Aveo isn't a great car, but it gets a worse rap than it deserves because people don't recognize that it's gotten lots of little updates over the years. The interior has improved -- first on the sedan, then on the hatchback -- and gas mileage now matches the Honda Fit's.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 09, 2010, 09:54:15 AM
windy roads?
Whoops. A touch too much wine in my glass, I fear. Winding roads.
In terms of base Aveo interior quality, the base Cruze is probably a reasonable indicator:
(http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/cil/carpoint/367144.jpg)
(http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/cil/carpoint/367065.jpg)
meh, just wait until the aveo rs gets hit with the ugly stick before production
Quote from: ifcar on February 09, 2010, 09:29:26 PM
You're acting as if it's the interior quality that's the current Aveo's problem.
(http://www.cardata.com/images/2008_new_cars/Chevrolet/Aveo_interior.jpg)
That's just not where its major problem lies.
Well it's interior quality certainly isn't its most shining endorsement either. It simply blows, which is up to par with the rest of the car.
The interior materials in the current Aveo are all rock-hard and thin feeling. It's best grace is that none of them really creak.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 09, 2010, 08:20:00 PM
Here's a better pic:
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/fiesta-120-008_opt.jpg)
The center console appears to have a sponsor:
(http://www.unicron.us/tf1984/decepticon.jpg)
Quote from: the Teuton on February 10, 2010, 09:24:40 AM
The interior materials in the current Aveo are all rock-hard and thin feeling. It's best grace is that none of them really creak.
Well, about that... I've had to deal with squeak issues on one G5. Only one though because I think that's roughly the same number that we sold YTD in 09.
Quote from: R-inge on February 10, 2010, 11:15:24 AM
Well, about that... I've had to deal with squeak issues on one G5. Only one though because I think that's roughly the same number that we sold YTD in 09.
The G5 is the Cobalt. The G3 -- that's one badass little Aveo.
The first images of the production car are out:
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30d724970c-800wi)
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30db86970c-800wi)
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/02/2012-chevrolet-aveo-previewed-draft.html
I'm impressed by that interior. Of course the lighting is set up to bounce off just right, but still... it looks purdy!
That's very attractive.
There's no way it will look that good in person. It's like pictures of Whoppers that Burger King has on its display boards. Any attempt to replicate it is futile.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 23, 2010, 04:25:21 PM
There's no way it will look that good in person. It's like pictures of Whoppers that Burger King has on its display boards. Any attempt to replicate it is futile.
Shut up.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 23, 2010, 04:25:21 PM
There's no way it will look that good in person. It's like pictures of Whoppers that Burger King has on its display boards. Any attempt to replicate it is futile.
Are you suggesting that the real Aveos will be haphazardly thrown together with all the pickles on one side, all the tomatoes on the other size, half the cheese hanging off the bun, wrapped up in wax paper, placed under a heat lamp for three hours, and man handled into a paper bag before it is delievered to the customer?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 23, 2010, 04:29:52 PM
Are you suggesting that the real Aveos will be haphazardly thrown together with all the pickles on one side, all the tomatoes on the other size, half the cheese hanging off the bun, wrapped up in wax paper, placed under a heat lamp for three hours, and man handled into a paper bag before it is delievered to the customer?
Something like that, yes.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 23, 2010, 04:29:17 PM
No.
Especially since GM's new products are highly competitive and class leading.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 23, 2010, 04:32:45 PM
Especially since GM's new products are highly competitive and class leading. do not have unintended acceleration problems.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 23, 2010, 04:32:45 PM
Especially since GM's new products are highly competitive and class leading.
I've driven a lot of GM's new products. Are they highly competitive? Yes. Are they class-leading...?
With the exception of the Corvette, LaCrosse, and CTS, see:
(http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/industry/icplogos/Ford.gif)
(http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/honda-logo.jpg)
and
(http://www.moit.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/F2AFD85C-33EA-4A8D-A227-4BC3066B5CE0/0/Hyundai.jpg)
Quote from: ifcar on February 23, 2010, 03:36:35 PM
The first images of the production car are out:
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30d724970c-800wi)
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30db86970c-800wi)
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/02/2012-chevrolet-aveo-previewed-draft.html
That looks great! The sedan looks even better than the hatch.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20968.msg1277105#msg1277105 date=1266982476
That looks great! The sedan looks even better than the hatch.
But here is the most important question:
Is it better looking than a Reno?
Yep, looks terrific. This will be a great option for those, like myself, who thinks 2-foot-long headlights look ridiculous.
(Fiesta, Spark, et al.)
I think it looks terrible. I'd rather have a Fiesta.
Those "images" scream CGI to me.....
Quote from: Minpin on February 24, 2010, 01:08:43 AM
Those "images" scream CGI to me.....
Most press shots are. I don't think there's been a live photo of the Mitsubishi ASX (Outlander Sport) yet.
Quote from: CJ on February 23, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
I think it looks terrible. I'd rather have a Fiesta.
The Fiesta has better details, but the sedan variant has awkward proportions. I don't understand how the Aveo looks terrible. :huh:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 23, 2010, 08:43:35 PM
But here is the most important question: Is it better looking than a Reno?
That's an unfair question.
While it IS a rendering, it's actually more of a slight editing of the actual car for ride height, according to an insider on another board.
Same board did this rendering:
(http://www.dieselupload.com/files/1/chevy-aveo-chop3.jpg)
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30d724970c-800wi)
I should have guessed they'd make a pointless sedan version, complete with useless mail-slot trunk opening. The hatch is the only sensible choice in this segment.
Madman of the People
Quote from: Madman on February 24, 2010, 02:36:17 PM
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30d724970c-800wi)
I should have guessed they'd make a pointless sedan version, complete with useless mail-slot trunk opening. The hatch is the only sensible choice in this segment.
Madman of the People
A Hatch without a Sedan variant is suicide.
Quote from: Madman on February 24, 2010, 02:36:17 PM
(http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201310f30d724970c-800wi)
I should have guessed they'd make a pointless sedan version, complete with useless mail-slot trunk opening. The hatch is the only sensible choice in this segment.
Madman of the People
Yeah, look at how great Dodge did when they scrapped the Neon and went with the Caliber.
Chimp of the Secrets
Quote from: Secret Chimp on February 24, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
Yeah, look at how great Dodge did when they scrapped the Neon and went with the Caliber.
Chimp of the Secrets
IMHO, the Aveo is more comparble to a Jeep Compass.
Eye of the Tiger
Quote from: Secret Chimp on February 24, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
Yeah, look at how great Dodge did when they scrapped the Neon and went with the Caliber.
Chimp of the Secrets
To be fair, the the Caliber is generally a crappy car. It doesn't matter what bodystyle it is.
2 of the 6
I concur.
666 of the SVT
Looking at the rendering Chris put up, I'm thinking an Alfa grille and badge wouldn't look out of place on this car.
Rock of the Raven
Quote from: Rockraven on February 24, 2010, 09:02:38 PM
Looking at the rendering Chris put up, I'm thinking an Alfa grille and badge wouldn't look out of place on this car.
Rock of the Raven
I concur.
666 of the SVT
Quote from: the Teuton on February 23, 2010, 04:25:21 PM
There's no way it will look that good in person. It's like pictures of Whoppers that Burger King has on its display boards. Any attempt to replicate it is futile.
If they don't throw it in a microwave after they assemble it, they'll be fine.
Liking the photos too. Looks like they finally put some effort into a small car.
I hope it's much better than the current one, I mean it looks good. But it's still a Daewoo after all, they haven't won my confidence yet.
Quote from: Sigma Projects on February 26, 2010, 01:19:43 AM
I hope it's much better than the current one, I mean it looks good. But it's still a Daewoo after all, they haven't won my confidence yet.
Why not?
GMDAT helped in quite a few areas.
It's a step forward if nothing else and it will be competitive. I'd rather have a Polo or an SX4. The Fiesta and Mazda2 are also better than this (completely subjective).
Still curious what the new Colt is going to look like.
I saw this car at the local auto show and it looked aweasome and total mean. They really should put the RS into production.
Quote from: Secret Chimp on February 24, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
Yeah, look at how great Dodge did when they scrapped the Neon and went with the Caliber.
Chimp of the Secrets
'cause the Caliber looks exactly like a Neon sedan. :rolleyes:
I'll be buying a small runabout in a year or so... wife's car mostly. I'm interested in a comparo of all the new, upcoming micros, but I have to say, I love this interior, love the exterior (both sedan and hatch, but I'll go with a hatch), and the powertrain sounds promising.
Quote from: ChrisV on February 26, 2010, 04:13:51 PM
'cause the Caliber looks exactly like a Neon sedan. :rolleyes:
I think he meant that they made a bad decision by going with a hatch-only model in America (the land of sedans).
Don't know if this was posted, but here's a rendering of the sedan from GM:
(http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/Aveo%20lead%20717.jpg)
Even with smaller wheels (on high profile tires) this thing is pretty desirable.
Also here is just a reminder of the interior:
(http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/Aveo%20int%20717.jpg)
Quote from: sportyaccordy on February 27, 2010, 08:31:02 AM
Don't know if this was posted, but here's a rendering of the sedan from GM:
(http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/Aveo%20lead%20717.jpg)
Even with smaller wheels (on high profile tires) this thing is pretty desirable.
Also here is just a reminder of the interior:
(http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/Aveo%20int%20717.jpg)
That was posted on page three.
Quote from: Secret Chimp on February 24, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
Yeah, look at how great Dodge did when they scrapped the Neon and went with the Caliber.
The Caliber didn't flop because it was a hatch. It flopped because it was crap.
Quote from: Madman on February 28, 2010, 12:12:19 AM
The Caliber didn't flop because it was a hatch. It flopped because it was crap.
Crap sedans sell better than crap hatches.
It's essentially a smaller Cruze, then, with Mitsubishi Lancer headlights and a stupid instrument cluster.