And it doesn't even require Herculiner.

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 17, 2015, 04:04:32 PM
But does it have a little plastic flap to cover up the jamb and make a seemlessly flat floor for easily sliding flammable boxes in and out?

Well, no; but if you swing it sideways you do have a seemlessly flat floor, and there's a steel flap to cover up the area where the rear seats fold down

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 17, 2015, 04:09:55 PM
No shit. Thanks. It is very utilitarian.

I've always had a soft spot for them, ever since I was in my friend's one in high school, and we drove across snowy lawns to get from place to place. We could have used the roads, in retrospect, but he wanted to show off how easily it tackled snow.

I just packed it to the ceiling with boxes. They didn't think I could get everything in one load. People had to go outside and look.

draggin ass on pavement?

Quote from: RomanChariot on November 17, 2015, 04:33:59 PM
And it doesn't even require Herculiner.

Now it does.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 18, 2015, 01:06:19 PM
Now it does.

Blow it out your ass

The front of her Kia was way way worse. Pieces were falling off the front corner. Stupid bitch.

I hope she at least has insurance and all that jazz?

Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 18, 2015, 03:55:46 PM


I hope she at least has insurance and all that jazz?

Yeah, but I'm not in good hands. It's State Farm.

That's a bit better than I was expecting, at least.

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 18, 2015, 03:59:59 PM
Yeah, but I'm not in good hands. It's State Farm.

Did she sing "like a good neighbor" and then her agent appeared?

FWIW, I've had really good experiences dealing with State Farm.

Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 18, 2015, 04:10:40 PM
Did she sing "like a good neighbor" and then her agent appeared?

FWIW, I've had really good experiences dealing with State Farm.

State Farm actually just called me. So far, so good.

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 18, 2015, 03:35:12 PM

As they say on Craigslist, it has a few scratches but it should buff out just fine. You should get enough insurance money to bring Summit back to life.

Quote from: RomanChariot on November 18, 2015, 04:38:03 PM
As they say on Craigslist, it has a few scratches but it should buff out just fine. You should get enough insurance money to bring Summit back to life.

lolsummit
A good buffing would cleae much of it up, but the lower part of the dent has a sharp crease.

I fucking can't stand when people cross lanes when turnign onto a road.

Quote from: 68_427 on November 19, 2015, 12:43:00 AM
I fucking can't stand when people cross lanes when turnign onto a road.

A lot of the fun curvy mountain roads around here are like 1.5 lanes wide with no center line. Makes brisk driving a little more dangerous, since you never know when a dumbass soccer mom in a Suburban will come around the corner halfway on your side of the road.

What doesn't work in an Element: trying to induce oversteer in a wet road by flicking it sideways while stabbing the throttle. As soon as the rear might have enough power to spin, it is shut down. Power goes back to the front and it understeers. That's fine, I guess. Element handles great when it isn't asked to drift.

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 19, 2015, 09:53:53 PM
What doesn't work in an Element: trying to induce oversteer in a wet road by flicking it sideways while stabbing the throttle. As soon as the rear might have enough power to spin, it is shut down. Power goes back to the front and it understeers. That's fine, I guess. Element handles great when it isn't asked to drift.

1. Remove front halfshafts.
2. Scandinavian flick.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Quote from: thecarnut on November 19, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
1. Remove front halfshafts.
2. Scandinavian flick.
3. ???
4. Profit.

how is rear drive formed? how element get draft?

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 20, 2015, 12:46:33 AM
how is rear drive formed? how element get draft?

Hill.

(tow it back to the top of the hill to repeat.)

E brake.  Or flick it with some left foot braking to get some weight transfer.

Quote from: thecarnut on November 19, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
1. Remove front halfshafts.
2. Scandinavian flick.
3. ???
4. Profit.

Lol you'll have a car that is totally stationary

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 19, 2015, 09:53:53 PM
What doesn't work in an Element: trying to induce oversteer in a wet road by flicking it sideways while stabbing the throttle. As soon as the rear might have enough power to spin, it is shut down. Power goes back to the front and it understeers. That's fine, I guess. Element handles great when it isn't asked to drift.

RT4WD is all about traction, that diff stays off as much as possible. It only also works under accel

Quote from: 2o6 on November 20, 2015, 11:43:08 AM

Lol you'll have a car that is totally stationary


RT4WD is all about traction, that diff stays off as much as possible. It only also works under accel

Haha, yeah I know. Those Honda 4WD systems are like FWD+ at b est.

Quote from: thecarnut on November 20, 2015, 11:44:43 AM
Haha, yeah I know. Those Honda 4WD systems are like FWD+ at b est.

There are so many conditions for that thing to turn off.

Element is at the body shop. I got a new Dodge Journey rental with the PENTATSTAR V6. That engine has a nice top end pull. The rest of the vehicle is crap.

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 20, 2015, 01:22:05 PM
Element is at the body shop. I got a new Dodge Journey rental with the PENTATSTAR V6. That engine has a nice top end pull. The rest of the vehicle is crap.

The Journey is like the minivan version of the Caliber, right?

Quote from: Raza  on November 22, 2015, 11:15:31 AM
The Journey is like the minivan version of the Caliber, right?

Yeah, it looks like a fat Caliper. At least it doesn't have a CVT, and the interior isn't horrible.

Oh yeah... the worthless waste of flesh that hit me is now claiming it wasn't her fault. The police report clearly says it was her fault. I just hate people.